Human evolution

[Brightmoon]

It would be nice to have anthropological evidence for your beliefs instead of bible thumping. And oddly enough other creationists don’t accept your version of the Bible thumping . Personally I don’t believe any creationist info but yours is really off the chain for me

 

[Brightmoon]

Not so. The sons of God (prehistoric people) were around 150k years ago but there were NO Humans (descendants of Adam) on this Earth. The Ark arrived 11k years ago in the mountains of Ararat and brought Adam's descendants (Humans) to Earth. We did not evolve from Apes but we inherited their DNA because Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans (descendants of Adam) to marry. Genesis 6:4

. Humans and the other apes (chimps) have been split apart for 6-7 million years. With that amount of time sperm and eggs probably won’t form a viable zygote or even develop into a fetus let alone a fertile adult hybrid . It’s ridiculous to think that 8 humans could populate the world . The amount of inbreeding problems would be horrible. The FLDS Mormons in Utah are bumping into this problem because of a small inbred population. Orthodox Jews also . And both groups have much larger populations than just 8 people

 

[Abraxos]

Doesn't anyone else find it awfully convenient that all these supposed bones for human evolution are found yet none are found for gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, gigantopithecus, etc?

 

[Brightmoon]

That’s because a lot of these were found in Asia or Europe which has more bone preserving climates than Africa does. It’s a big frustration to scientists too as they do know where to look for them and in what layers they’d be found. Geology is a lot more advanced now than in the 19th century. And civil wars and corrupt government infrastructures don’t help either

 

[Brightmoon]

A quick search came up with this in Nature. It’s open so anyone can read it

 

[Brightmoon]

I should have put these here

 

[Hans Blaster]

Not so, since Humans were made BEFORE any other living creature. Gen 2:7 You have confused Humans (descendants of Adam) with the sons of God (prehistoric people). This is untrue historically since the FIRST modern Human traits appeared only 11k years ago, in man's time. http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html

What do you mean by: "the FIRST modern Human traits appeared only 11k years ago", specifically, which traits of modern humans appeared 11 kya?

I should note that by your phrasing you claim that the first traits of modern humans appeared 11 kya. Had no traits of what we would call modern humans appeared before 11 kya?

Generally speaking, what do you consider to be traits of modern humans that distinguish us from non-modern humans?

 

[Colter]

Not so. The sons of God (prehistoric people) were around 150k years ago but there were NO Humans (descendants of Adam) on this Earth. The Ark arrived 11k years ago in the mountains of Ararat and brought Adam's descendants (Humans) to Earth. We did not evolve from Apes but we inherited their DNA because Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans (descendants of Adam) to marry. Genesis 6:4

This guy doesn't even bother with the Bible, he just writes his own!

 

[Aman777]

It would be nice to have anthropological evidence for your beliefs instead of bible thumping.

Scientists have rejected God's Truth in favor of man's changeable theories. Many run away from what they consider to be myths and beliefs.

And oddly enough other creationists don’t accept your version of the Bible thumping

They should get busy and refute me Scripturally but none do. Also, I am accepted as a fundamentalist Christian by many online and am also quoted in FSTDT. Notice also that I don't have any critics who can actually show us Scripture. When asked, their religious views don't appear to be in the Bible.

Personally I don’t believe any creationist info but yours is really off the chain for me

That's WHY I post that those who disagree with me, either Scripturally, scientifically or historically, should post their views so others can learn. How bout you?

 

[Aman777]

Humans and the other apes (chimps) have been split apart for 6-7 million years

Humans (descendants of Adam) have NEVER been the same as ANY other animal.

With that amount of time sperm and eggs probably won’t form a viable zygote or even develop into a fetus let alone a fertile adult hybrid

Noah's grandsons didn't wait but immediately found a prehistoric woman with fresh ingredients to make other Humans. Genesis 10:10

It’s ridiculous to think that 8 humans could populate the world

Amen, and that's why there were some 1 Million sons of God (prehistoric people) on planet Earth when the Ark arrived 11k years ago. Genesis 6:4

The amount of inbreeding problems would be horrible. The FLDS Mormons in Utah are bumping into this problem because of a small inbred population. Orthodox Jews also . And both groups have much larger populations than just 8 people

Amen and God is much too smart to do something like that to start another Human world. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

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Humans arrived on this planet only 11k years ago in the mountains of Ararat. Before then the sons of God (prehistoric people) who descended from the common ancestor of Apes, roamed this Earth, never built a house nor city, chased other animals in order to eat and lived in Caves and holes. SUDDENLY, exactly where God told us the Ark arrived, modern Human traits appeared and Human civilization can be traced to a direct descendant of Adam, the first Human. Noah was the FIRST Human on this Earth.

 

[Aman777]

What do you mean by: "the FIRST modern Human traits appeared only 11k years ago", specifically, which traits of modern humans appeared 11 kya?

The first Human Farming in the Fertile Crescent: http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html Every other modern Human trait suddenly appeared there with the arrival of the Ark, along with city building, writing, math etc.

I should note that by your phrasing you claim that the first traits of modern humans appeared 11 kya. Had no traits of what we would call modern humans appeared before 11 kya?

No, since the sons of God (prehistoric people) were NOT Humans. (descendants of Adam)

Generally speaking, what do you consider to be traits of modern humans that distinguish us from non-modern humans?

Cain's descendants on Adam's Earth had farming, city building, smelting, tent building, musical instruments and others before Adam's Earth was totally destroyed in the flood. 2 Peter 3:6 These traits are shown in Genesis 4:16-22

 

[Aman777]

This guy doesn't even bother with the Bible, he just writes his own!

False accusation and an unsupported, biased view from a Buddhist, I think. That's another religion.

 

[Brightmoon]

Aman, humans are animals in Clade Animalia. We’re in Clade Animalia because we’re vertebrates, we’re mammals, and we’re Primates.

 

[Aman777]

Aman, humans are animals in Clade Animalia. We’re in Clade Animalia because we’re vertebrates, we’re mammals, and we’re Primates.

Only Trump and evolutionists insist that Humans are animals, which is impossible since Humans (Adam) were made long BEFORE any other living creature. Genesis 2:4-7 Adam was made BEFORE plants, herbs, rain and trees. Our Human blood was contaminated by the sons of God (prehistoric people) in whose image Adam was found after the fall.

The sons of God (prehistoric people) had their origin in WATER on the 5th Day Genesis 1:21 and Cain married one of them on Adam's Earth. Noah's grandsons did the same on the Earth which is now. Genesis 10:10. Just because our blood was mixed with that of creatures who came from the common ancestor of Apes does NOT make us Apes. It makes us Humans (descendants of Adam) with contaminated blood. Amen?

 

[Brightmoon]

Trump is ignorant of science.

Humans are Animals no matter how much you thump your version of a holy book . Save yourself the trouble of pounding because pseudoscience and religious based blather is not convincing in scientific matters . Even Tolkien does it and he’s a little bit more knowledgeable of science than you seem to be. Why don’t you try finding out what science actually says about things and how it gets its answers before you try to Holy book thump around a bunch of scientifically literate people

 

[Aman777]

Trump is ignorant of science.

Humans are Animals no matter how much you thump your version of a holy book . Save yourself the trouble of pounding because pseudoscience blather is not convincing

Are you saying that God was just lying in Genesis? Of course you are. You lose.

 

[Hans Blaster]

The first Human Farming in the Fertile Crescent: http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html Every other modern Human trait suddenly appeared there with the arrival of the Ark, along with city building, writing, math etc.



No, since the sons of God (prehistoric people) were NOT Humans. (descendants of Adam)



Cain's descendants on Adam's Earth had farming, city building, smelting, tent building, musical instruments and others before Adam's Earth was totally destroyed in the flood. 2 Peter 3:6 These traits are shown in Genesis 4:16-22

farming, city building, smelting, tent building, musical instruments: These are cultural characteristics, which do indicate certain minimum intellectual sophistication, but that's all.

Besides:

The first musical instruments date to about 40 kya.
SW Asian agriculture does date to about 11 kya.

Writing doesn't show until about 5000 years later. (Proto-writing about 2000 years later.)

Smelting didn't start for at least 2000 years after this supposed arrival.

Similar activities began in the Americas (though I think not smelting) at completely different timescales with no evidence of exchange.

How were these supposed first (modern) humans from the "ark" different physically or mentally from the others who seem to have survived the global flood that kill everything? (knowing how to farm, or write, is not a mental difference)

 

[Brightmoon]

Are you saying that God was just lying in Genesis? Of course you are. You lose.

don’t put words in my mouth.

God created this universe not you creationists. Y’all seem to forget that . Scientists only report what’s there. They don’t make up fantasies because they don’t have accept holy book inaccuracies as if they have to be true (or else). That’s YOUR problem!

 

[DogmaHunter]

Not so. The sons of God (prehistoric people) were around 150k years ago but there were NO Humans (descendants of Adam) on this Earth. The Ark arrived 11k years ago in the mountains of Ararat and brought Adam's descendants (Humans) to Earth. We did not evolve from Apes but we inherited their DNA because Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans (descendants of Adam) to marry. Genesis 6:4

It's true, here's a picture of it just arriving