Human Evolution

[bhsmte]

Until you insult her and make yourselves look bad.

She has made her own bed sarah, because is clearly not being upfront and honest. Have you read the contradictory nature of her posts?

All she would have to do is do what she states she wants to and that is to learn and be willing to listen , otherwise she shouldnt open a thread like this looking for information if she already knows evolution is all lies.

 

[biggles53]

Until you insult her and make yourselves look bad.

I treat 'em as I find 'em........peddlers of lies don't deserve too much civility....

 

[bhsmte]

Has anyone seen some the actors reading creationists posts from cf on you tube? Absolutely hilarious!

Wouldnt surprise me to see bits read on you tube from this thread.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I treat 'em as I find 'em........peddlers of lies don't deserve too much civility....

You also shouldn't give them the satisfaction of lowering yourself to petty insults.

 

[biggles53]

You also shouldn't give them the satisfaction of lowering yourself to petty insults.

Show me the petty insults...?

 

[46AND2]

Until you insult her and make yourselves look bad.

You don't think her condescending, know-it-all tone would counter this a bit? I do.

Besides, if I was an on-the-fence lurker, I'd recognize that there are verbally abusive adherents on both sides, and that it's the data which makes a difference, not the presentation.

If somebody is swayed in a debate due to attitudes, then that is something that the observer has to work on.

I don't particularly like the aggressive personalities of certain atheistic proponents, like Aron-ra, and Hitchens, but I recognize the strength of their arguments.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Has anyone seen some the actors reading creationists posts from cf on you tube? Absolutely hilarious!

Wouldnt surprise me to see bits read on you tube from this thread.

Yes, they make my brain want to commit suicide because the statements are so dumb. In fact, they were the reason I checked out this site, I wanted to see it with my own eyes if that crap was common place or rare.

 

[PsychoSarah]

You don't think her condescending, know-it-all tone would counter this a bit? I do.

Besides, if I was an on-the-fence lurker, I'd recognize that there are verbally abusive adherents on both sides, and that it's the data which makes a difference, not the presentation.

If somebody is swayed in a debate due to attitudes, then that is something that the observer has to work on.

I don't particularly like the aggressive personalities of certain atheistic proponents, like Aron-ra, and Hitchens, but I recognize the strength of their arguments.

I just know that with people like that, it kills them more inside if we stay nice to them than if we insult them back. Is it possible to take an evil pleasure out of being civil?

 

[PsychoSarah]

I treat 'em as I find 'em........peddlers of lies don't deserve too much civility....

Maybe, but ultimately the greatest injustice in it is the blemish it does on your character, not those people being insulted.

 

[selfinflikted]

Until you insult her and make yourselves look bad.

If it's not clear by now, I couldn't care less about how I "look" to random internet people.

Show me the petty insults...?

She's probably referring to my post.

But, I apologized out in the open, so let's drop this and get back to discussing evolution.

 

[46AND2]

I just know that with people like that, it kills them more inside if we stay nice to them than if we insult them back. Is it possible to take an evil pleasure out of being civil?

So basically, by your rationale, it is better to ACT civil than it is be honest?

Take your other post, for example, you talk about the "dumb" posts made by creationists. That is just as derogatory as what you are complaining about, regardless of the fact that you didn't direct it toward a particular creationist here.

Why not BE empathetic, understanding, caring, humble, instead of ACTING civilly? If you are dishonest about your civility, what else might a lurker think you are being dishonest about?

Your faux-civility that you use to "kill them more inside" is just as detrimental as direct insults, AND it has the additional negative attribute of being dishonest.

 

[PsychoSarah]

If it's not clear by now, I couldn't care less about how I "look" to random internet people.



She's probably referring to my post.

But, I apologized out in the open, so let's drop this and get back to discussing evolution.

Yeah, this got way off track.

 

[PsychoSarah]

So basically, by your rationale, it is better to ACT civil than it is be honest?

Take your other post, for example, you talk about the "dumb" posts made by creationists. That is just as derogatory as what you are complaining about, regardless of the fact that you didn't direct it toward a particular creationist here.

Why not BE empathetic, understanding, caring, humble, instead of ACTING civilly? If you are dishonest about your civility, what else might a lurker think you are being dishonest about?

Your faux-civility that you use to "kill them more inside" is just as detrimental as direct insults, AND it has the additional negative attribute of being dishonest.

Well gosh, if everyone told the truth all the time, we would all be at each other's throats. And no, I don't usually lie, not in person or online, I just know that I can choose not to say rude crap and communicate what I want to in a civil manner.

I laugh inside because I don't match up with the "sinful atheist" or the "immoral atheist" or the "dishonest atheist", and I have seen some people get frustrated by that alone; they get mad because I am not as bad as their preconceived notion of what an atheist is like. That people are mad at me for being friendly is really funny to me for some reason, probably because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

True, I have my rude moments, but rarely are they intentional. I would say about 80% to 90% of the "rude" stuff I say is not something I perceive as rude or insulting at all. Thank you social disorder, for making me look like more of a butthole than I actually am. I actually get very shocked when people perceive some of the stuff I say as insulting, and I will almost always apologize even if I never understand what was rude about what I said.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Anya,

Since you're so knowledgeable about the subject, perhaps you can explain a few things to us...

Why do humans have the 3 genes necessary for the production of yolk present in their genome...?

Why do we have erector pilae muscles which cause gooseflesh when we're cold or scared...?

Why does a developing human fetus grow a thick coat of fur at about the 6 month mark, only to then lose it all in the remaining months of gestation...?

It's not fur, it is fine hair.

Lanugo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And replaced by normal hair once the hair follicles fully develop.

 

[PsychoSarah]

It's not fur, it is fine hair.

Lanugo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And replaced by normal hair once the hair follicles fully develop.

That is 1 down, I suppose to an extent, although this doesn't explain away why that hair develops in the first place.

How about the rest?

 

[Golden Yak]

It's not fur, it is fine hair.

Lanugo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And replaced by normal hair once the hair follicles fully develop.

Isn't fur... hair?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Isn't fur... hair?

Very slight difference, can't remember off of the top of my head.

 

[Loudmouth]

It's not fur, it is fine hair.

 

[PsychoSarah]

If I did a face palm for every time I read something worthy of one on this site, I would have brain damage from the repeated blows to my head.

 

[Loudmouth]

The First Law of Thermodynamics states that matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can be transferred from one form to another. This law confirms that creation is no longer occurring but it also implies that creation occurred at sometime in the past!

Why?

And how is evolution inconsistent with thermodynamics, as you claimed?

Because the universe is constantly losing usable energy and never gaining, one can reasonably conclude the universe had a beginning—a moment of least entropy. That is, a time of minimal disorder with a minimal amount of unusable energy—a time when the First Law of Thermodynamics did not apply—a time of creation when systems were rising to higher levels of organized complexity. This is no longer occurring today.

According to Scripture, the moment of least entropy is fully described in Genesis 1. Applied to the whole universe, this is a fundamental contradiction to the “chaos to cosmos, all by itself” nature of evolutionary doctrine.

Creation Science Today - Physical Scientific Evidence for Creation: Universal Decay

Creation Science Today - Scientific evidence for creation

Still waiting for evidence, not claims. Also still waiting for a reason why thermodynamics proves evolution wrong.