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The problem is Genesis chapter 1 is not a myth nor allegorical story or shouldn't be taken literally.

Why would we change and adjust the Truth to man's discovery of his interpretation of life?

I don't have problems, I know evolution is false especially with mankind.

Well Anya, you would have to produce evidence to show what men wrote in Genesis thousands of years ago to be correct.

Since no one has been able to do the same, I highly doubt you will be able to, but go ahead and give it a shot.

Again, I would recommend you stay away from scientific discoveries, as they seem to cause you undue stress.
 
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People realized that Genesis was allegory long before evolution came along, Anya.

It is not. It is completely different than the parables and the psalms and Proverbs in the Bible.

Why would it repeat "And God said" at least 10 times in the first chapter?

It is not a myth and is not a metaphor or a simile or an allegory story.

People who don't want to see this chapter as literal say it is allegory.
 
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Well Anya, you would have to produce evidence to show what men wrote in Genesis thousands of years ago to be correct.

Since no one has been able to do the same, I highly doubt you will be able to, but go ahead and give it a shot.

Again, I would recommend you stay away from scientific discoveries, as they seem to cause you undue stress.

Why is it causing me stress?? It's the PEOPLE here and the way they respond is annoying sometimes.

It's fine!!
 
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Ok (remember the evidence is the same as far as fossils and geology go)

Just the INTERPRETATION is different ;)

Quite obviously, the evidence must objectively point directly at God with no other viable option. Just as, the fossil evidence and DNA evidence points directly to evolution.
 
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It is not. It is completely different than the parables and the psalms and Proverbs in the Bible.

Why would it repeat "And God said" at least 10 times in the first chapter?

It is not a myth and is not a metaphor or a simile or an allegory story.

People who don't want to see this chapter as literal say it is allegory.

If a Christian disagrees with you and states the theory of evolution is correct and Genesis is a myth, would call them a true Christian?
 
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It is not. It is completely different than the parables and the psalms and Proverbs in the Bible.

Why would it repeat "And God said" at least 10 times in the first chapter?

It is not a myth and is not a metaphor or a simile or an allegory story.

People who don't want to see this chapter as literal say it is allegory.


Because it makes for a good yarn. And yes, he is correct. People knew that the age of the Earth was hundreds of millions of years at least and that there was no Flood before Darwin's time.

Genesis had already been busted.
 
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Why would we change and adjust the Truth to man's discovery of his interpretation of life?

Why is your claimed Truth contradicted by mountains of evidence?

I don't have problems, I know evolution is false especially with mankind.

Then show that it is false using evidence.
 
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Because it makes for a good yarn. And yes, he is correct. People knew that the age of the Earth was hundreds of millions of years at least and that there was no Flood before Darwin's time.

Genesis had already been busted.

I'm even talking about before that.

People were realizing that Genesis was allegory before the Bible was even complete.
 
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Ok (remember the evidence is the same as far as fossils and geology go)

Just the INTERPRETATION is different ;)


The thing is some INTERPRETATIONS can be wrong. I might find an "ancient text" that says:

"a mon avis"

Now I know a little Latin and know that "bird" in Latin is "avis". And "mon" looks very similar to mountain and therefore translate this phrase as:

"To Bird Mountain".

You might translate it differently. Whose translation would be correct? It is easy to show that the "translations" of evidence that creationists have is not correct.
 
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Me too! And I will be sick to see my children Learning lies. Let me ask you this? Is God or man more knowledgable about the history of life?

You know there are religious schools, and you can even fill out a form so that your kid doesn't attend classes on evolution even in public schools, right?

But I think you should talk with your kids about it and see if they want to learn about it or not instead of just making that choice for them.
 
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If a Christian disagrees with you and states the theory of evolution is correct and Genesis is a myth, would call them a true Christian?

It would not be my place to say they are true Christian or not.

I'd say they need to reread the Bible completely to see if Genesis Chapter 1 is written as a myth or not.

And they would need to explain why animals don't participate in Church and are not worried about death, the afterlife, walking with Jesus, etc.
 
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