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How will Jews get into heaven?

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Paul also wrote, in that same letter,

"But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, 'In Isaac your seed shall be called.'" Rom 9:6,7

Soooo, ALL Israel will be saved, but not all those of Israel are Israel. Hmmmm.
 
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Paul also wrote, in that same letter,

"But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, 'In Isaac your seed shall be called.'" Rom 9:6,7

Soooo, ALL Israel will be saved, but not all those of Israel are Israel. Hmmmm.

You are correct.

Rom 11:24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.

The branches broken off can be grafted back into the tree through faith in Christ.
The Olive Tree is a symbol of the New Covenant Church.


Rom 11:26 And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written, "The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob";

This is the manner of their salvation is by being grafted into the Olive Tree.

Rom 11:27 "and this will be my covenant with them when I take away their sins."

This is the New Covenant of Christ found in Hebrews 8:6 and Hebrews 12:24 which was fulfilled at Calvary by the Blood of Christ, when He took away the sins of all races of people.

There is now no difference between a naked native living in the Amazon Rain Forest and a modern descendant of Jacob living in the State of Israel. They both need Christ for the same reason and in the same way.

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Show me one verse that states anyone goes to heaven when they die.

Mat_10:28  And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


Luk_23:43  And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.


1Th 4:14  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 


Rev_6:9  When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.

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Mat_10:28  And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


Luk_23:43  And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.


1Th 4:14  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 


Rev_6:9  When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.

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Paradise is a reference to Sheol.

Look it up.

You failed.
 
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Mat_10:28  And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


Luk_23:43  And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.


1Th 4:14  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 


Rev_6:9  When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.

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John 3:13
No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven--the Son of Man.



You have extremely failed.
 
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Mat_10:28  And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


Luk_23:43  And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.


1Th 4:14  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 


Rev_6:9  When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.

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I'll take it a step further-

For the 'jews', assuming you accept that jews are of Judah. Judah is the smallest of the Tribes of Israel. Just one tribe of Israel, Judah is of Israel, and will be rejoined with Israel.


That said....


Going to heaven is a completely foreign concept to the 'jews' and completely foreign to the OT, Torah, Tenakh.

So, no, jews aint going to heaven.......and you ain't either.
 
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Mat_10:28  And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

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Great post.......

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary
JESUS AND APOSTLES VS 1ST OC JEWISH RULERS

Matt 23:
33 "Serpents, brood of [ggennhmata <1081>] of Vipers!
How may ye may be fleeing from the judging of the geennhV"

Reve 14:11
And the smoke of the tormenting of Them into Ages of Ages is ascending.
And not they are having rest Day and Night, the ones worshipping the Wild-Beast,

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

The Destruction Of JERUSALEM
An Absolute and Irresistible PROOF OF THE DIVINE ORIGIN OF CHRISTIANITY:


Reve 18:11
"And the merchants of the land are lamenting and are mourning on Her,
that the cargo of them not-yet-one is buying not-still.
13 "and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men.



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Going to heaven is a completely foreign concept to the 'jews' and completely foreign to the OT, Torah, Tenakh.
So, no, jews aint going to heaven.......and you ain't either.

Are you saying there's no heaven or that no human will ever go there?
 
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If you buy the NT as it is, the New Kingdom is here on earth.

Not on this earth...

Pe 3:10  But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 

2Pe 3:11  Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 

2Pe 3:12  looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 

2Pe 3:13  Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. 

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Not on this earth...

Pe 3:10  But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 

2Pe 3:11  Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 

2Pe 3:12  looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 

2Pe 3:13  Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. 

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Yeah, I'm aware. Just keeping it simple for the rapture crowd.
 
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