How to encourage?

[brinny]

I definitely think looking at the Greek that encourage could mean to build up. Sometimes building up involves a bit of tearing down, but tearing down is not the main purpose. And tearing down need not be a destructive thing. Rather just a simple dismantling of current standing.

I liken it to tearing down a house. You can take it apart piece by piece to possibly reuse good portions in the rebuild, or you can just demolish it and start all over from scratch. I think biblically speaking, encouragement would be a gentle, peaceful tear down where we don't just destroy the person but gently correct them and are able to build them up again.

Am I off on this? I am sure someone here will disagree with me

Only GOD should be "tearing down" anything. Only HE can be trusted with a devastated and wounded soul, mind, body, heart, and spirit.

Amen?

What has that got to do with this:

How to encourage?

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Only GOD should be "tearing down" anything. Only HE can be trusted with a devastated and wounded soul, mind, body, heart, and spirit.

Amen?

What has that got to do with this:

How to encourage?

I think sometimes encouragement and edification can go together. Sometimes a preacher will tear down his congregants in a sermon before building them back up. I see nothing wrong with showing people how they may be acting inconsistently with scripture or sound judgement. As long as it is done with the intent of correcting and restoring such people.

IOW, people that just go around throwing Holy hand grenades at people intent upon destroying them, they are wrong.

But if I show someone that they have no need to worry and that by worrying they are outside God's will, then encourage them and lead them back to God, there is nothing wrong with that. IMHO

 

[DeerGlow]

Only GOD should be "tearing down" anything. Only HE can be trusted with a devastated and wounded soul, mind, body, heart, and spirit.

Amen?

What has that got to do with this:

How to encourage?

Good point. Still, I think the answer from my church lesson with empathy not sympathy fits the question.

 

[brinny]

I think sometimes encouragement and edification can go together. Sometimes a preacher will tear down his congregants in a sermon before building them back up. I see nothing wrong with showing people how they may be acting inconsistently with scripture or sound judgement. As long as it is done with the intent of correcting and restoring such people.

IOW, people that just go around throwing Holy hand grenades at people intent upon destroying them, they are wrong.

But if I show someone that they have no need to worry and that by worrying they are outside God's will, then encourage them and lead them back to God, there is nothing wrong with that. IMHO

The only way that works is when the one "tearing down" begins with theirself.

Otherwise there's that "pride" thing....

y'know, seein' blunders in ev'ry body's eye and being blind to their own.

Amen?

 

[brinny]

Good point. Still, I think the answer from my church lesson with empathy not sympathy fits the question.

Yeah, empathy is akin to compassion.

It's safe to say that if there is genuine compassion/empathy, there's no danger of a wounded traumatized soul getting kicked when they're down already, is it?

 

[ByTheSpirit]

The only way that works is when the one "tearing down" begins with theirself.

Otherwise there's that "pride" thing....

y'know, seein' blunders in ev'ry body's eye and being blind to their own.

Amen?

I agree and I try as much as I can when encountered with such a situation to explain in terms of myself. Much like Paul did in Romans 7. A lot of times this comes across as though I have sinned in such a manner, but I do not care how others read into my comments. What is important is the restoration of my brother or sister.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Only GOD should be "tearing down" anything. Only HE can be trusted with a devastated and wounded soul, mind, body, heart, and spirit.

Amen?

What has that got to do with this:

How to encourage?

HOW to encourage ?

People are frequently saddled with a load of baggage/ flesh/ sin.

Until they are born again, they accumulate this daily - including guilt and shame and judgment upon themselves.

Jesus never took a little bit at a time away from them in the New Testament, in saving anyone from their guilt, and shame, and sin, and flesh.

The encouragement is seeing the complete and total freedom from the devil
from the flesh,
from the power of the world,
from sin,
that JESUS grants, or the Father grants through JESUS,
as HE PLEASES.

As written "Everything born of the flesh is flesh, and is profitless - profits nothing"
so nothing born of the flesh is revamped as if it could ever be used in the spirit or by the spirit of by God Himself even --
the
flesh WITH ALL ITs AFFECTIONS and LUSTS is crucified.
God's Word says so - and it is already accomplished according to God's Word.

Walking in newness of LIFE , born again, is exactly as written in God's Word, revealed by God's Spirit, accomplished by God the Father, for everyone called and set apart by HIM, HIMSELF, for HIS OWN PURPOSE.

Complete and total freedom from the guilt, shame, judgment, consequences, and weight of the sin,
is accomplished by the FATHER, through JESUS , crucified... as written...
and raised in newness of life, as written of all the believers immersed in Jesus in ACTS, and the other Epistles in the NT.....

 

[brinny]

Ever hear of the evangelist that kicked an old woman who was ill, straight in her face, with his boots on to heal and encourage her?

 

[brinny]

I agree and I try as much as I can when encountered with such a situation to explain in terms of myself. Much like Paul did in Romans 7. A lot of times this comes across as though I have sinned in such a manner, but I do not care how others read into my comments. What is important is the restoration of my brother or sister.

Yeah, that pride thing...

it can be a real stickler, amen?

 

[brinny]

HOW to encourage ?

People are frequently saddled with a load of baggage/ flesh/ sin.

Until they are born again, they accumulate this daily - including guilt and shame and judgment upon themselves.

Jesus never took a little bit at a time away from them in the New Testament, in saving anyone from their guilt, and shame, and sin, and flesh.

The encouragement is seeing the complete and total freedom from the devil
from the flesh,
from the power of the world,
from sin,
that JESUS grants, or the Father grants through JESUS,
as HE PLEASES.

As written "Everything born of the flesh is flesh, and is profitless - profits nothing"
so nothing born of the flesh is revamped as if it could ever be used in the spirit or by the spirit of by God Himself even --
the
flesh WITH ALL ITs AFFECTIONS and LUSTS is crucified.
God's Word says so - and it is already accomplished according to God's Word.

Walking in newness of LIFE , born again, is exactly as written in God's Word, revealed by God's Spirit, accomplished by God the Father, for everyone called and set apart by HIM, HIMSELF, for HIS OWN PURPOSE.

Complete and total freedom from the guilt, shame, judgment, consequences, and weight of the sin,
is accomplished by the FATHER, through JESUS , crucified... as written...
and raised in newness of life, as written of all the believers immersed in Jesus in ACTS, and the other Epistles in the NT.....

Jeff, my brother...let me know if you are misunderstanding my posts.

When might God's Holy Spirit lead us to "encourage" someone?

Post a picture of discouragement here.

 

[brinny]

I agree and I try as much as I can when encountered with such a situation to explain in terms of myself. Much like Paul did in Romans 7. A lot of times this comes across as though I have sinned in such a manner, but I do not care how others read into my comments. What is important is the restoration of my brother or sister.

When someone is in dire need of encouragement, who cares about "explanations"?

 

[brinny]

How to encourage?

@ByTheSpirit let's say i'm discouraged.

Encourage me brother.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Jeff, my brother...let me know if you are misunderstanding my posts.

When might God's Holy Spirit lead us to "encourage" someone?

Post a picture of discouragement here.

I don't remember your previous posts at this moment in this thread.

A picture (word/life picture of discouragement here? is probably the condition of what is called nationwide "Christiandom" - the state of the churches that are called by His Name) ....

Healing I see every day among God's People, in the USA and in other countries even moreso, as their faith is much much much more pure than in the usa.
(and yes, this is something they have known for many decades, and is confirmed by all the 'evidence' available - and even moreso by what God's Word says clearly (for another time and place perhaps) )

Healing is part and parcel with the GOSPEL - not just all through the New Testament, but ever since then through today, among God's People all around the world in every country.

Notice , very important, that when Jesus was resurrected and appeared to hundreds of His disciples,
HE NEVER appeared, not once, to unbelievers.

And even Jesus could not do many miracles in the towns where there was too much unbelief.

Thus today also - why many people eager even to see God's Kingdom, do not or cannot, except if/when they are separated from people in their neighborhood/ around them.... by God, to see His work as He pleases when and where HE chooses....

 

[brinny]

I don't remember your previous posts at this moment in this thread.

A picture (word/life picture of discouragement here? is probably the condition of what is called nationwide "Christiandom" - the state of the churches that are called by His Name) ....

Healing I see every day among God's People, in the USA and in other countries even moreso, as their faith is much much much more pure than in the usa.
(and yes, this is something they have known for many decades, and is confirmed by all the 'evidence' available - and even moreso by what God's Word says clearly (for another time and place perhaps) )

Healing is part and parcel with the GOSPEL - not just all through the New Testament, but ever since then through today, among God's People all around the world in every country.

Notice , very important, that when Jesus was resurrected and appeared to hundreds of His disciples,
HE NEVER appeared, not once, to unbelievers.

And even Jesus could not do many miracles in the towns where there was too much unbelief.

Thus today also - why many people eager even to see God's Kingdom, do not or cannot, except if/when they are separated from people in their neighborhood/ around them.... by God, to see His work as He pleases when and where HE chooses....

No, i'm referring, my friend Jeff, to what someone's face would look like if they are discouraged.

What would it look like?

 

[ByTheSpirit]

When someone is in dire need of encouragement, who cares about "explanations"?

Well usually what has them discouraged is was need some to be dealt with first. As in like a fever. You can put a cold rag on the forehead to knock down the fever, but it won't handle the main issue. So you take a Tylenol or some type of medicine to fight the issue at the source.

If someone needs encouragement, I usually find out what's going on then with a brief internal prayer can go from there.

Such as, if you were a bit down and discouraged because you didn't get the promotion at work you had wanted. I would say that I definitely know what that feels like, because I have been passed over for promotions before. But instead of being discouraged about it, we can take heart that there will be another chance in the future for promotion, so let's keep our head up, not down and keep going.

Horrible example, but it really depends on the situation. Some situations require varying levels or response, not every situation needs "tearing down", but some do

 

[ByTheSpirit]

How to encourage?

@ByTheSpirit let's say i'm discouraged.

Encourage me brother.

Jesus loves you so knock it off

 

[brinny]

Well usually what has them discouraged is was need some to be dealt with first. As in like a fever. You can put a cold rag on the forehead to knock down the fever, but it won't handle the main issue. So you take a Tylenol or some type of medicine to fight the issue at the source.

If someone needs encouragement, I usually find out what's going on then with a brief internal prayer can go from there.

Such as, if you were a bit down and discouraged because you didn't get the promotion at work you had wanted. I would say that I definitely know what that feels like, because I have been passed over for promotions before. But instead of being discouraged about it, we can take heart that there will be another chance in the future for promotion, so let's keep our head up, not down and keep going.

Horrible example, but it really depends on the situation. Some situations require varying levels or response, not every situation needs "tearing down", but some do

I'm asking you to focus on "encouragement". Usually by the look on a face, dejectedness, tears, etc. it's quite clear how verrrry discouraged this one might be.

Amen?

 

[brinny]

Jesus loves you so knock it off

You can say that to me, bro' cuz i knock back...

capish?

 

[ByTheSpirit]

I'm asking you to focus on "encouragement". Usually by the look on a face, dejectedness, tears, etc. it's quite clear how verrrry discouraged this one might be.

Amen?

Very true

 

[ByTheSpirit]

You can say that to me, bro' cuz i knock back...

capish?

Lol