how to deal with sarcasm

[Goodbook]

used in literature it's funny and witty but used in conversation it's mean and uncalled for.

 

[agua]

Here's a decent commentary explaining why Paul used sarcasm/irony to teach the Corinthians not to think they were already reigning before Jesus returned. ( be prideful of their high position )

4:8 The Corinthians had become self-sufficient; they were already full. They prided themselves on the abundance of spiritual gifts in their midst; they were already rich. They were living in luxury, comfort, and ease. There was no sense of need. They acted as if they were already reigning, but they were doing so without the apostles. Paul states that he could wish that the time to reign had already come so that he might reign with them! But in the meantime, “lifetime is training time for reigning time,” as someone has said. Christians will reign with the Lord Jesus Christ when He comes back and sets up His kingdom on earth. In the meantime, their privilege is to share the reproach of a rejected Savior. H. P. Barker warns:
It is positive disloyalty to seek our crown before the King gets his. Yet this is what some of the Christians at Corinth were doing. The apostles themselves were bearing the reproach of Christ. But the Corinthian Christians were “rich” and “honorable.” They were seeking a good time where their Lord and Master had such a hard time.
At coronations, peers and peeresses never put on their coronets until the sovereign has been crowned. The Corinthians were reversing this; they were already reigning while the Lord was still in rejection!

Believers Bible Commentary.

Here's a more thorough explanation of the folly of the Cronthian Church.

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http://www.biblestudytools.com/1-corinthians/4-8.html Now ye are full
That is, in their own opinion: these words, and some following expressions, are an ironical concession. They were not full of God, and divine things; nor of Christ, and of grace out of his fulness; nor of the Holy Ghost, and of faith, as Stephen and Barnabas are said to be; nor of joy and peace in believing; nor of goodness and spiritual knowledge; but they were full of themselves,

 

[Goodbook]

I get irony.
Sarcasm is different. don't say they are one and the same, as they are not.Irony is gentle d'oh! humour, sarcasm is biting, wounding and can be vicious.

Anyway it is not about irony in the bible it is dealing with people who say stupid or mean things or don't mean what they say at all, like the opposite and then say they are being sarcastic.

Don't get off topic and try to say Paul did because he didn't.
There is NO excuse for being mean and saying yes when you mean no just to hurt someone or confuse them.

 

[agua]

Settle Petal

Sarcasm

noun 1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.

2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.


1Ki 18:27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

 

[Goodbook]

sarcasm is HARSH irony.
irony is just irony..can be humourous.
sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. and also more than mockery.

elijah mocked the false prophets.
John the baptist may have too, but he was beheaded. However, Jesus did not ever say to mock unbelievers. He said to bless and do not curse. He said we must be wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

He knew what happened to John.Don't think he wasn't aware of the consequences of sarcasm. Why in revelation it says people were beheaded for Christ? Because they may have mocked unbelievers. He also said turn the other cheek.

Go and sin no more. Read your Bible.

 

[seeingeyes]

Everyone uses sarcasm. If your car breaks down: "Oh that's just great." If you're having an awful day and someone asks how you are: "I'm fantastic." It's a common mode of communication. Nothing inherently wrong with it. The scriptures make full use of sarcasm.

If someone says to you, "You're an idiot. Ha! Just kidding." That's not really sarcasm as much as passive aggressive nonsense.

 

[Sophrosyne]

I think to deal with sarcasm you have to get to know the individual using it to ascertain if it is an attempt at humor, frustration, anger, or spitefulness. There are those who use it well as humor but even they have at times difficulty in that their intended audience may misconstrue their attempt at humor and take it instead seriously and get upset. I think those not very good at sarcasm should avoid using it with people who are also not good at perceiving it. I find at times I have to avoid being sarcastic with some people who don't know me at all and are not approaching me on my own turf and that don't have a good sense of humor either.
I think that sarcasm is all over the map but for the most part those who use it mainly as humor or frustration it is not a personal thing while those who are angry and spiteful use it to berate or denigrate others by putting them down in a not so direct fashion. Instead of saying you are stupid they say something sarcastic so as to appear to not be insulting them but when someone reads through it the insult is there disguised by sarcasm.
I tend to avoid these types of people myself as they are in a sense saying one thing and meaning the other and it is a way for them to think they are not mean when in fact they are IMO meaner than those who directly say it. I think sometimes the hope is that sarcasm won't be seen for what it is and that they get by with a sneaky insult that some see and the person who it is intended for doesn't. It is like telling an insulting joke and the person of the joke doesn't get it but everyone else around them does and laughs at both the joke and the intended victim of it. Sarcasm can be doubly biting in this fashion.
Sarcasm as humor can be doubly funny in a way first if someone does get it they think it is funny and secondly it makes one think to get the joke thus in a sense working a little to get the humor. I love puns and sarcasm myself but if most can't get the joke and when it is explained and they get it they get upset that type of sarcasm needs to be avoided.

 

[Goodbook]

can't be bothered really.
If person is sarcastic to me I won't talk to them anymore. Just say what you mean and be honest. I can handle it.

 

[Goodbook]

I think the person in question is frustrated. And taking out his frustrations on me.

 

[throughchristimchanged]

why are people sarcastic?
It's annoying.
I try to ignore..I notice men do it a lot,(like flipping of the hair) women not so much. Is it insecurity,(I dont know why, maybe attitude or they think its cute) or they want to puff themselves up or what?
What does the Bible say?(its not what the bible says its how you choose to live your life)

something about fresh and salt water do not mix?(sarcasm and attitude go hand in hand)
why can't people say what they mean and mean what they say?(shake the attitude and you will see less sarcasm)

I'd hate to talk with someone all the while believing and trusting what they say only to have them bite back and say ...just kidding.(love sees it) Does that mean they are goat-talking instead of sheep-talking. I always think that children should never be called kids,(true its kind of derogatory in a sense) it demeans them. But I do realize some people on here get highly offended if I say that..(love conquers all)

Jesus said - feed my sheep. Feed my lambs. Not feed my goats and my kids.(its the way your attitude counteracts the over outlook of class)

class has to mainly deal with it, in what light do you see

 

[Hetta]

I'm asking how cos I really don't know.
Not helping sorry.
I actually DO find the term kids derogatory. It's like saying your children are wild and can't control themselves, eating any old thing.

I don't think you have any children, do you? Kids know who loves them and who does not and mine have never objected to being called 'kids' because they have parents who love and support them. OTOH, you have parents who abuse their kids and call them "children" instead. Hmm, I wonder which kind of parents kids would prefer.

 

[Goodbook]

? I wouldn't know, I'm not a kid.
My parents just called me by my christian name. Or first name. (since they are not even christians). I was never called 'kid'.

 

[Goodbook]

Although I was called a monkey by my mum.
And baby
I didn't like that, and insisted I was human, and also, to call me by my real name. lol

Maybe it's just me. I could never call my own children 'kids'. It's so generic. Maybe other parent's children. But not mine. I'd just say their real names. Or 'my son' or 'my daughter' or 'sweetie'.

 

[Goodbook]

class?
I grew up working-class, but then, was special because my parents are chinese. And there weren't many other chinese around the time I grew up. But chinese working-class all the same. Maybe it's I know my parents, that I'm not a bastard or illegitament or something like that. Many people in nz don't actually know their parents, like their dad left or something, or the father's name isn't even on the birth certificate, or, their parents never married etc. Lots of defacto relationships here. People just can't wait or be bothered to be properly married.

Not judging, just saying, something I've observed.

 

[Sophrosyne]

? I wouldn't know, I'm not a kid.
My parents just called me by my christian name. Or first name. (since they are not even christians). I was never called 'kid'.

Being called "kid" is an American thing I think just as some of your phrases used in your country to us don't often go over well with first thought either.

 

[Goodbook]

is it? Ok.
It may have just crept in because of TV.
I'm always reminded of the Simpsons tv show where that character Krusty the Clown starts saying Heeeey KIDS! Really creepy.

Like Binky the Clown off Garfield. I'm sure they copied him.
But then advertising got into it. eg Weetbix Kids, are Kiwi Kids. BTW weetbix is horrible cardboard cereal. But not as bad as those sugarbombs the US invented, that already have half a cup of sugar added.
And now you have 'kids meals'. Like I said, kids eat any old thing. Junk food.

 

[BFine]

I'm American born and bred...my parents never called me "kid"
either... my parents were poor black farmers in NC.

My parents reinforced positive roles and appropriate titles.... we
were called children... because where we lived there's a lot of racism...
black men were always called "boy" even when they were adults...
black women were always called "girl" even when they were adults too.

Back then we(my family) affirmed one another's status -- men were called men and women
were called women...we didn't de-value them...that's the way my parents taught
me and my siblings.

 

[RAnonUS19B]

Let's make it plain and simple sarcasm i believe is a form of lieing so i don't like it but let's look what the bible says about it.

Ephesians 4:29
29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

Or maybe

Ephesians 5:4
4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

Or look at this verse.

Proverbs 26:18-19
18 As a mad man who casteth firebrands, arrows, and death,
19 So is the man that deceiveth his neighbour, and saith, Am not I in sport?

 

[Goodbook]

Rockshe - good scriptures

I actually do or did have a child - sponsored a little girl - now probably nearly grown up, in Zambia. I would never call her a kid.