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No, that is not it’s primary function. It assists with the digestive process.
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Yes. The E. Coli tail helps the bacteria kill people. Who would want to design such a thing?
More like: this designer of brick walls can't design atoms, space, and time.
On the contrary, every single 'thing' in science, has either already been tested or is being tested and changes over time. Atoms space and time are classic examples of 'things' that science has changed its meaning of .. because of new results derived from that testing. These are in fact, concepts, and not what we commonly think of as being 'things' (or physical, unchanging objects). If they were 'physical objects' existing completely independently from our concepts, then why would they change at all?
Everything, with no exceptions in science, becomes an operational definition, otherwise it is neutralised (and bypassed) as being yet another belief.
You cannot believe God's word is true as written and also believe in evolution.
You completely miss the point.
You can't talk about a supernatural event without any supernatural references.
The world is not just the physical that you can see, there is equal parts physical and spiritual. When you ignore the spiritual you are ignoring half of the facts. Creation was a miracle, a supernatural event, it wasn't a natural event.
So does my light bulb run on intelligence? or is intelligence confined to the brain?
There is no evidence for the spiritual. Thus, your claim has no basis.
Good, and evil, are spiritual concepts that manifest themselves in behavior.
But surely the intelligent designer that designed and created that tail of the E. Coli bacteria would know that it would assist with its digesting *us* too? (metaphorically speaking). Seem an intelligent designer has a moral obligation to consider the impacts of his/her/its designs.No, that is not it’s primary function. It assists with the digestive process.
No. Brick walls are made of atoms residing within the universe as it is.You're mixing metaphors.
There is no evidence for the spiritual. Thus, your claim has no basis.
The problem is that this leaves the spiritual unverifiable.And you are back to physical evidence, which is like comparing potatoes to grass. Spiritual matters can only be detected by an alive spirit of which yours is unaware, asleep. Which is why as I said above it is foolishness to you. The verse is correct, you do think and feel it is foolishness, do you not?
You won't ever have physical evidence of the spiritual that can be measured in a lab. The closest thing to compare it to would be love. Which can't be tested and measured, it just is. I don't expect a man who is asleep to read a book and argue with him when for not reading it. I don't expect you to understand, in fact I know you won't and I know I can't prove anything to you. Only God can wake the spirit. Which is why arguing is pointless.
Scientists in the future may see themselves as being privileged in being able to view the evidence of the cutting edge of Theoretical Physics thinking, when it comes to concepts such as String Theory (as are we).I like it. Science is up against 'the big wall' however as is evidenced by their dabbling in things like string theory.
What's 'spiritual' about behaviors?Good, and evil, are spiritual concepts that manifest themselves in behavior.
Since when are emotions not testable? Emotions produce consistently observable evidence of their presence. We also know that what 'emotions' means, depends entirely on the presence of a meaning generating mind. Both cases require the presence of a mind.You won't ever have physical evidence of the spiritual that can be measured in a lab. The closest thing to compare it to would be love. Which can't be tested and measured, it just is.
No .. I say 'spirituality' can be awakened by the mind conceiving it.coffee4u said:.. Only God can wake the spirit. Which is why arguing is pointless.
The problem is that this leaves the spiritual unverifiable.
It doesn't produce consistent independent results and the people who make claims about it can be extremely inconsistent.
This gets even worse in some cases when spiritual arguments aren't just unverifiable, but in fact contradicted by physical evidence.
Good start for discussion.One thing we can agree on.
That is because the spirit world is not just God. It consists of God and his angels but also fallen angels. Many people these days are more interested in having a 'spiritual experience' and either knowingly or unknowingly look for the spiritual in the wrong places. fallen angels exist to deceive and mislead. God warns us many times about fallen angels and activities that will lead to them across the Bible from the Old to the New.
Deuteronomy 18
9 When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead.
Matthew 24:24
For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
People are also driven and influenced by a number of forces.
In and of itself this feels like an insufficient reason to accept something.The only 'evidence' of the spiritual is the fact that most people believe in it, in some form or the other.
When spiritual evidence is presented in contrast to physical evidence.You will need to explain further what you mean about that. No one is saying everything is spiritual, things can be physical and mental as well.
And you are back to physical evidence, which is like comparing potatoes to grass. Spiritual matters can only be detected by an alive spirit of which yours is unaware, asleep. Which is why as I said above it is foolishness to you. The verse is correct, you do think and feel it is foolishness, do you not?
You won't ever have physical evidence of the spiritual that can be measured in a lab. The closest thing to compare it to would be love. Which can't be tested and measured, it just is. I don't expect a man who is asleep to read a book and argue with him when for not reading it. I don't expect you to understand, in fact I know you won't and I know I can't prove anything to you. Only God can wake the spirit. Which is why arguing is pointless.
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