How the Democratic Party opposes Christian Principles

[MrrrrrNiceGuy]

How the Democratic Party opposes Christian Principles

The key elements of the Atheistic Lifestyle are extreme environmentalism, socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion and homosexuality. By supporting/advocating these issues the Democratic Party is opposing Christian Principles.

Extreme environmentalism is opposed to Christian Principles when nature is worshiped instead of God. God states man is to have dominion over the world.

Socialism requires the person worship the government instead of God.

Feminism deceives a woman and destroys the Christian Family concept that is a cornerstone of the Christian Lifestyle.

Pornography deceives the man and destroys the Christian Family concept that is cornerstone of the Christian Lifestyle.

Abortion denies the value of life taught by the Bible and denies that God has ownership over all people.

Homosexuality denies the word of God and represents total defiance of God.

Democrats attempt to pass hate crime legislation that would prevent Christians from preaching/teaching God's word.

Democrats attempt to pass homosexual marriage/civil union legislation when they get control of the government. A recent example of this was the state of Oregon that went from Republican Control to Democratic Control in 2006. Just as soon as the Democrats were in control, they passed civil union legislation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_partnership_in_Oregon

Domestic partnership in Oregon
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In April and May 2007, following a previous attempt in 2005, the Oregon state legislature passed legislation to make virtually all of the rights afforded to married couples available to same-sex couples. The new status will be referred to in Oregon law as a domestic partnership, avoiding the use of the terms marriage or civil union. Governor Ted Kulongoski signed the bill on May 9, 2007, and it is scheduled to take effect on January 1, 2008.

However, after the November 2006 mid-term elections Democrats won a majority of the formerly Republican-controlled house[4], and in early 2007, Democrats was re-introduced a bill in the House similar to the 2005 legislation. The bill adopted the term "domestic partnership" to describe these unions; the terms "marriage" or "civil union" were absent. This bill enjoyed a relatively easy passage through the legislature, when compared to its 2005 predecessor. Passed by the House on April 17, 2007 (by a vote of 34-26) and by the Senate on May 2, 2007 (by a vote of 21-9), Governor Kulongiski signed the Oregon Family Fairness Act on May 9, 2007. The law is not scheduled to take effect until January 1, 2008.

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Democrats are very good at selling the Atheistic Lifestyle. Pornography is freedom of speech, abortion is a woman's right to choose and homosexuality is a civil right. One of the most hypocritical statement is: "I would not do that, but I would not object to others doing it". That is like saying: I would not seduce your children, but I would not mind someone else seducing your children. If it is wrong, it is wrong for all people. Christians should not vote for people that condone or advocate evil.

Even Christians are deceived by the propaganda of the Democrats. Universal Health Care sounds good till you realize that the main purpose of Universal Health Care is to force the responsible to pay for the mistakes of the irresponsible. The mistakes of the irresponsible are the evil that the Bible says to avoid.

I agree.

Though I also disagree, to a point. There is some good in the Democratic Party and there are still some Democrats out there that know what it means to have good morals.

You're right about extreme environmentalism. It is wrong to take away rights from a human being, just so a daisy flower can live. But on the flip side, we should not destroy what we have, either. Instead, we are to be good stewards and realize that nothing in this world belongs to us; it all belongs to our wives! J/K, married men! No, it all belongs to God and God entrusts us to take care of the earth to the best of our ability. That does not mean that we should kill unborn babies to help control the growth of the world population, for God said, "Be fruitful, and multiply!" Rather, we should strike a balance between taking good care of the earth and giving enough rights to human beings. We should not go to either extreme, but instead let us learn how to get a handle on our use of the world's limited resources, while at the same time we need to make sure that civilizations around the world can not only survive, but thrive! And that my friend, is good stewardship over the earth.

Secondly, I feel like the Republican Party does have a dark history, with a few exceptions (Abraham Lincoln's effort to free the slaves being one of these exceptions, also Theodore Roosevelt's "war" against trusts and monopolies). The Republican Party still has some skeleton's in it's closet even today, such as giving tax cuts to the rich and it's extreme support of big business. But then again, so does the Democratic Party, like you mentioned above.

This is why I consider myself an Independent (leaning to the right) because I feel like there is more good in the Republican Party than bad, but some policies of this party still get underneath my skin, if you know what I mean (for example, there is still some remnants of racism in the party, which is obviously wrong). The Democratic Party is more bad than good IMHO. For example, on the good side of the Party, having at least some Universal Healthcare just for the very poor and needy is actually a good thing. After all, there are many folks that cannot help being poor.

I guess what I am trying to say is that both parties have skeleton's in their closets, both have their evils. But then on the flip side both parties also have some good left in them. My own political beliefs lie in what is biblically good and then finding that good in both parties. Then meshing those good things together. Of course, not all will agree with me on what is good and what is evil. I love being an Independent!

 

[The Bellman]

I agree.

Though I also disagree, to a point. There is some good in the Democratic Party and there are still some Democrats out there that know what it means to have good morals.

You're right about extreme environmentalism. It is wrong to take away rights from a human being, just so a daisy flower can live. But on the flip side, we should not destroy what we have, either. Instead, we are to be good stewards and realize that nothing in this world belongs to us; it all belongs to our wives! J/K, married men! No, it all belongs to God and God entrusts us to take care of the earth to the best of our ability. That does not mean that we should kill unborn babies to help control the growth of the world population, for God said, "Be fruitful, and multiply!" Rather, we should strike a balance between taking good care of the earth and giving enough rights to human beings. We should not go to either extreme, but instead let us learn how to get a handle on our use of the world's limited resources, while at the same time we need to make sure that civilizations around the world can not only survive, but thrive! And that my friend, is good stewardship over the earth.

Secondly, I feel like the Republican Party does have a dark history, with a few exceptions (Abraham Lincoln's effort to free the slaves being one of these exceptions, also Theodore Roosevelt's "war" against trusts and monopolies). The Republican Party still has some skeleton's in it's closet even today, such as giving tax cuts to the rich and it's extreme support of big business. But then again, so does the Democratic Party, like you mentioned above.

This is why I consider myself an Independent (leaning to the right) because I feel like there is more good in the Republican Party than bad, but some policies of this party still get underneath my skin, if you know what I mean (for example, there is still some remnants of racism in the party, which is obviously wrong). The Democratic Party is more bad than good IMHO. For example, on the good side of the Party, having at least some Universal Healthcare just for the very poor and needy is actually a good thing. After all, there are many folks that cannot help being poor.

I guess what I am trying to say is that both parties have skeleton's in their closets, both have their evils. But then on the flip side both parties also have some good left in them. My own political beliefs lie in what is biblically good and then finding that good in both parties. Then meshing those good things together. Of course, not all will agree with me on what is good and what is evil. I love being an Independent!

Wow. A conservative Christian who doesn't worship at the altar of the Republican party! A rarity (at least in this forum).

 

[Suomipoika]

Wow. A conservative Christian who doesn't worship at the altar of the Republican party! A rarity (at least in this forum).

Yeah. Do you have an idea about what kind of stance most conservative/evangelical Christians over here generally have on "consevative right wing American politics"?

 

[ONEGod]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/07/MNdean07.TMP

Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean, unapologetic in the face of recent criticism that he has been too tough on his political opposition, said in San Francisco this week that Republicans are "a pretty monolithic party. They all behave the same. They all look the same. It's pretty much a white Christian party."

ONEGod:

Thou sayest, and also deny ? Double minded !


James 4:8
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.​

 

[ImmortalTechnique]

I think "Christian" should be in quotes there. They claim Christianity for political gain, but I've never seen anything inherently or particularly Christian about the Republican platform. Certainly no more or less so than the Dems

 

[Nathan Poe]

I think "Christian" should be in quotes there. They claim Christianity for political gain, but I've never seen anything inherently or particularly Christian about the Republican platform. Certainly no more or less so than the Dems

Agreed. I'd like to see a single Christian ideal that the Republican party endorses, ONEGod.

 

[ONEGod]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/07/MNdean07.TMP

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...7/MNdean07.TMP

Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean, unapologetic in the face of recent criticism that he has been too tough on his political opposition, said in San Francisco this week that Republicans are "a pretty monolithic party. They all behave the same. They all look the same. It's pretty much a white Christian party."​

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/07/MNdean07.TMPhttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/07/MNdean07.TMP

ONEGod:
Maybe if i just quote fewer words the quote will be more comprehensible ?​

 

[Nathan Poe]

ONEGod:

Maybe if i just quote fewer words the quote will be more comprehensible ?​

Good idea -- as long as the quote is still in context, it doesn't help you.

 

[ONEGod]

MrrrrrNiceGuy:
You're right about extreme environmentalism. It is wrong to take away rights from a human being, just so a daisy flower can live.
But on the flip side, we should not destroy what we have, either. Instead, we are to be good stewards and realize that nothing in this world belongs to us; it all belongs to our wives! "J/K, married men! No, it all belongs to God and God entrusts us to take care of the earth to the best of our ability. That does not mean that we should kill unborn babies to help control the growth of the world population, for God said, "Be fruitful, and multiply!" Rather, we should strike a balance between taking good care of the earth and giving enough rights to human beings. We should not go to either extreme, but instead let us learn how to get a handle on our use of the world's limited resources, while at the same time we need to make sure that civilizations around the world can not only survive, but thrive! And that my friend, is good stewardship over the earth.

Romans 1:25
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

ONEGod:
How well the Lord knew of them so very long ago. The new age packaging is just the same old play book with a new flashy cover. The wicked perceive they as protected by the flashy new false cover they hide under.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Romans 1:25
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

ONEGod:
How well the Lord knew of them so very long ago. The new age packaging is just the same old play book with a new flashy cover. The wicked perceive they as protected by the flashy new false cover they hide under.

I'm not certain what your point is, if any. Do you agree or disagree with what was said?

 

[ONEGod]

#585
I think "Christian" should be in quotes there. They claim Christianity for political gain, but I've never seen anything inherently or particularly Christian about the Republican platform. Certainly no more or less so than the Dems

ONEGod:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...7/MNdean07.TMPHYPERLINK "http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/07/MNdean07.TMP"
Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean, unapologetic in the face of recent criticism that he has been too tough on his political opposition, said in San Francisco this week that Republicans are "a pretty monolithic party. They all behave the same. They all look the same. It's pretty much a white Christian party."

ONEGod:
Perhaps you should have a talk with Howard Dean, he insists that Christian is about all the Republican party is. What does Howard Dean see that is invisible to you ?

 

[christalee4]

Many members of the Democrat party are Christian, so you can park your version of Christian values inside your own small space.

 

[ONEGod]

Show me where the Bible declares murderers, deniers of God, haters of God and perversity/diversity with sacrilege and abomination, those that do them and those that revel in those that do them, are of God.
Maybe the God you believe in is not the one I believe in.
Know by the company you keep, the crowd you hang with, and that which you willingly support.
Even the democrats acknowledged that when they tried to trash Joe Liberman. If you can't learn from God, take a look at your opponents.

 

[Rudolph Hucker]

Almost as an aside, why should any government espouse Christian values?

 

[Ringo84]

Almost as an aside, why should any government espouse Christian values?

It shouldn't. It's both unconstitutional and unethical.
Ringo

 

[ImmortalTechnique]

Show me where the Bible declares murderers, deniers of God, haters of God and perversity/diversity with sacrilege and abomination, those that do them and those that revel in those that do them, are of God.
Maybe the God you believe in is not the one I believe in.
Know by the company you keep, the crowd you hang with, and that which you willingly support.
Even the democrats acknowledged that when they tried to trash Joe Liberman. If you can't learn from God, take a look at your opponents.

precisely why the Republicans are no more Christian than anyone else...

 

[Rudolph Hucker]

One cannot help but wonder whether more soldiers would be alive had they not been sent by a Christian president (and PM) to a far-off land.

Would a non-Christian president (and PM) have done the same thing?

 

[Rudolph Hucker]

Bingo, Ringo!

 

[clirus]

Rudolph Hucker quote

One cannot help but wonder whether more soldiers would be alive had they not been sent by a Christian president (and PM) to a far-off land.

Would a non-Christian president (and PM) have done the same thing?

Response

One cannot help but wonder whether more American Civilians would be alive had America not elected the Clinton democratic administration to office.

Rudolph Hucker quote

Almost as an aside, why should any government espouse Christian values?

Response

The choice is the government espousing Christian Principals or Atheistic Principals.

Atheists want to imply that the government does not espouse either, but when the government (courts) legalize pornography, abortion and homosexuality, they are espousing Atheistic Principals. When the government under democrats offer healthcare, welfare, etc. they are espousing the Atheistic Lifestyle because they are offering cure instead of prevention.

Prevention of problems is far better than cure for problems, the same as espousing Christian Principles is far better than Atheistic Principles.

Some do not like the black or white of Atheistic Principles or Christian Principles but my experience leads me to believe people do make decisions. I do not believe people understand what they are accepting when they accept Atheistic Principles.

christalee4 quote

Many members of the Democrat party are Christian, so you can park your version of Christian values inside your own small space.

Response

I do not understand that statement.

How can a person call themself a Democrat and a Christian when the democratic party does not support Christian Principles?

There can be no clearer single issue than homosexuality. The democratic party supports homosexuality. The Bible defines homosexuality as evil. There is a clear conflict.

Lots of people like the social policies of the democratic party, but those social policies include pornography, abortion and homosexuality. A good justification for opposing healthcare and welfare is that those are also part of the social policies of democrats.

There is a choice to be made. God calls on everyone to make the choice of Jesus Christ and living in accordance with Christian Principles.

A government cannot create an ethical/healthy society by imposing ethics, however an ethical/healthy society can be created when God imposes ethics on people and the people vote for ethical government leaders. A government can create an unethical/unhealthy/Atheistic society by opposing Christian ethics.

 

[Sphere]

in other words, you enjoy picking and choosing what scripture to adhere too(and impose onto others), and what to ignore. hypocrite.