How should we keep the Sabbath holy?

[Hammster]

Me too my friend. If we are honoring God, not doing our own ways, our own pleasures, nor speaking our own words. What are we doing?
How do we honor God?
Worship Him?


Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

You may be misunderstanding my point in this thread. I’m not against worshipping on any day of the week. I’m against legalism that’s says we must do something that is not commanded in God’s word.

 

[prophecy_uk]

Me too my friend. If we are honoring God, not doing our own ways, our own pleasures, nor speaking our own words. What are we doing?
How do we honor God?
Worship Him?


Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

This is how we worship God, all the days of our life serving Him in holiness ( the law is magnified to be made honourable and needed to have one day sanctified to seven days sanctified through Christs sacrifice)





Isaiah 42:21 The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.


Luke 1:72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;
73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

 

[prophecy_uk]

Jesus answered and said to them, This is the work of God, that you believe into Him whom that One sent.
(Joh 6:29 LITV)

Yes the work of God that we do is believe.


The work Israel did was without faith.

Now through faith we work the works of God, by believing in Christ.

The work we do not do any longer is unbelief, as all the work Israel did ( and still does) is through unbelief ( including keeping sabbath and food laws)

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You may be misunderstanding my point in this thread. I’m not against worshipping on any day of the week. I’m against legalism that’s says we must do something that is not commanded in God’s word.

Is God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments commanded in Gods Word *Exodus 20:8-11? Is it legalism in your view to obey Gods' commandments if we love God or if God asks us to do something in His Word and we obey God because we love God? Or is it legalism to obey God from the outside without having any inward change of heart? Where is the commandment in Gods Word that says God's 4th commandment has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest? If there is no scripture for this teaching is this legalism in your view?

 

[prophecy_uk]

Is God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments commanded in Gods Word *Exodus 20:8-11 and is it legalism in your view to obey Gods' commandments if we love God in your or if God asks us to do something in His Word and we obey God because we love God? Or is it legalism to obey God from the outside without having any inward change of heart? Where is the commandment in Gods Word that says God's 4th commandment has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest? If there is no scripture for this teaching is this legalism in your view?

Jesus did not rest, until His glorious rest..



Isaiah 62:1 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.

Isaiah 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Luke 24:26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

 

[prophecy_uk]

We see no example of Jesus resting on sabbath.

Also it would break Gods word, to not rest until His righteousness went forth ( Christ entering into His glory and glorious rest of the death and rising)...


1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

 

[prophecy_uk]

LoveGodsword, do you have verses with Jesus resting on the sabbath day, resting before He entered into His glorious rest ? ( when God says He will not rest until the righteousness goes forth)

 

[prophecy_uk]

This is why we know how Jesus kept sabbath holy ( I made a new topic for you today on this)

Jesus kept sabbath holy by dying on the preparation, and being dead during the sabbath three days in the heart of the earth and by rising on exactly the end of that week of the sabbath to make the righteousness go forth.

We also are to be dead with Him, o live with Him..


Romans 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

2 Timothy 2:11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:

 

[prophecy_uk]

If a human man keeps sabbath, ( a rest from work for one day on the seventh day) he keeps that to God.



But if a man keeps the sabbath Christ kept, ( entering into His glorious rest on the seventh day rising to life for us) they keep the death and rising of the Lord on every day ( ALWAYS)



2 Corinthians 4:10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.

 

[Hammster]

Is God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments commanded in Gods Word *Exodus 20:8-11? Is it legalism in your view to obey Gods' commandments if we love God or if God asks us to do something in His Word and we obey God because we love God? Or is it legalism to obey God from the outside without having any inward change of heart? Where is the commandment in Gods Word that says God's 4th commandment has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest? If there is no scripture for this teaching is this legalism in your view?

Since you won’t deal with what I’ve been asking, on what basis should I even entertain addressing this?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Hammster said: ↑ You may be misunderstanding my point in this thread. I’m not against worshipping on any day of the week. I’m against legalism that’s says we must do something that is not commanded in God’s word.

My response to you...

LoveGodsWord said: ↑ Is God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments commanded in Gods Word *Exodus 20:8-11? Is it legalism in your view to obey Gods' commandments if we love God or if God asks us to do something in His Word and we obey God because we love God? Or is it legalism to obey God from the outside without having any inward change of heart? Where is the commandment in Gods Word that says God's 4th commandment has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest? If there is no scripture for this teaching is this legalism in your view?

Your response....

Since you won’t deal with what I’ve been asking, on what basis should I even entertain addressing this?

Your post is non-responsive to the post you are quoting from that shows what your claiming here is not biblical. I guess I did not think you would respond to my questions to be honest. They are there for all to see though. So it is an interesting discussion with you. How did I not deal directly with what you were asking as outlined and shown in to you already in post # 227 linked?

Take Care.

 

[prophecy_uk]

Since you won’t deal with what I’ve been asking, on what basis should I even entertain addressing this?

This way we are told..


Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.




To avoid debate:


Isaiah 58:4 Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high.

Romans 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

2 Corinthians 12:20 For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults:

 

[prophecy_uk]

Remember what the blind do to the blind....



Matthew 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.




If anyone does not bring this doctrine to avoid them, is what those following Christ remember to observe:



2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

 

[prophecy_uk]

More on strife makers:


Proverbs 15:18 A wrathful man stirreth up strife: but he that is slow to anger appeaseth strife.

Proverbs 16:28 A froward man soweth strife: and a whisperer separateth chief friends.

Proverbs 17:14 The beginning of strife is as when one letteth out water: therefore leave off contention, before it be meddled with.

Proverbs 17:19 He loveth transgression that loveth strife: and he that exalteth his gate seeketh destruction.



Proverbs 20:3 It is an honour for a man to cease from strife: but every fool will be meddling.

Proverbs 26:21 As coals are to burning coals, and wood to fire; so is a contentious man to kindle strife.

Proverbs 28:25 He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth his trust in the Lord shall be made fat.

 

[Hammster]

How did I not deal directly with what you were asking as outlined and shown in to you already in post # 227 linked?

You never answered my question. I’m not sure what question you think you answered, but it certainly wasn’t one that asked.

 

[prophecy_uk]

As to answering questions, that also is not the way, but to be slow to speak was the way of God..


Ecclesiastes 5:2 Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few.

James 1:19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

 

[prophecy_uk]

But of course you cant reprove the scorners..




Proverbs 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

Proverbs 15:12 A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise.

Proverbs 29:1 He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

Ecclesiastes 4:13 Better is a poor and a wise child than an old and foolish king, who will no more be admonished.

 

[Hammster]

This way we are told..


Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.




To avoid debate:


Isaiah 58:4 Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high.

Romans 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

2 Corinthians 12:20 For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults:

The post wasn’t addressed to you in any way imaginable.

 

[Hammster]

More on strife makers:


Proverbs 15:18 A wrathful man stirreth up strife: but he that is slow to anger appeaseth strife.

Proverbs 16:28 A froward man soweth strife: and a whisperer separateth chief friends.

Proverbs 17:14 The beginning of strife is as when one letteth out water: therefore leave off contention, before it be meddled with.

Proverbs 17:19 He loveth transgression that loveth strife: and he that exalteth his gate seeketh destruction.



Proverbs 20:3 It is an honour for a man to cease from strife: but every fool will be meddling.

Proverbs 26:21 As coals are to burning coals, and wood to fire; so is a contentious man to kindle strife.

Proverbs 28:25 He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth his trust in the Lord shall be made fat.

You are stirring up strife.

 

[prophecy_uk]

So sabbath keeping, and whatever people keep is to themselves, just as they speak to themselves too.



Luke 18:9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.