re amount of consensual gay incest vs. consensual heterosexual incest:
Neverstop said:
Mmmm....how does one support this claim? It doesn't really matter because there is an implicit point here that incest among heterosexuals is NEVER a hot button issue, and it happens a LOT more that gay sex. Yes, just google incest statistics.
Do the math:
3% of the population is gay. Say we have a small community with ten families, each of which has ten blood relations (evenly divided between male and female) who would qualify by the degree of relationship for incest (not sayin' they're actually
doing it, just that if they did, the act would be considered incest).
In that community of 100 people, three will be gay ('cuz we're playing by strict statistical averages here). Of those three, there is a one in five chance that two of them will be in the same family, and hence any physical intimacy they share would be incestuous. However...one has to factor in the fact that gays are male and female, so conceivably one could gave a gay male and a lesbian in the same family, and hence no risk of incest. (We'll leave that out just to keep things simple.)
Conversely, there are 97 heterosexuals in the community, and each and everyone has a 100% chance of finding a heterosexual member of his/her family with whom physical intimacy would be incest. Even if all three gay community members belonged to the same family, there would still be enough heterosexual family members in that grouping to guarantee the
possibility of incest.
Hence, gay incest is a possibility, albeit a smaller possibility than heterosexual incest. And again, we're citing
consensual behavior between two adults, not child molesting and pedophillia.
Neverstop said:
Don't we mean 3% of those that admit to being gay? If we haven't noticed, being gay is not exactly popular, so there is much motivation to keep it quiet.
3% is what Kinsey cited as exclusive adult homosexual behavior (the 10% number cited erroneously by many people refers to children and adolescents who abandon same-sex play by their early adult years). Since then some figures have suggested the actual number of gays may be as low as 1.8%.
Neverstop said:
Gay people cannot be compared to incest because a large number of incest that occurs is really sexual abuse. Gay people are not forcing each other to do anything, that is why the analogy fails.
The mere fact so many try to compare gays to murderers, incest, beastiality, etc shows just how much work needs to be done by all of us.
No offense, but you are in as dire need of remedial English as you are remedial math. In my original post I cited
consensual incest; i.e., sexual relations between two competent unencumbered adults who are closely related by blood. It is no different than consensual homosexual sex. In both cases in involves individuals who put their personal physical gratification above societal norms. Nothing prevents gays from loving one another all they wish; the moral stricture is against the physical act. Likewise nothing prevents family members from loving one another as deeply as they wish; again the moral ban is on the physical act.
I have never compared gay sex to murder or to bestiality; again, seek out my original post on the subject and you'll see I deliberately excluded bestiality while specifically citing consenseual incest, not child abuse.
Neverstop said:
With lips people say "I don't judge," and with their keyboards they use nearly every letter as their own personal gavel.
Methinks thou project too much...
Neverstop said:
When we will realize the problem with homophobia has almost nothing to do with sex, and everything to do with patriarchy and the subjugation of women?
Say wha--? Huh? You pulled that one so far outta left field you had to leave the ball park to do it.