How old is the world?

[A4C]

Yes, because we all know how well you do in such a debate.

Why thank you :o

 

[In A Perfect World]

So you are saying tht something as simple as a dishwasher needs somebody to design it but the complex human being (and every other life form) just got here by chance?
I say a designer was required for both

Who designed god? If god has no designer and simply "is", why can you not reconcile physical matter/existence as "always have been and simply, "is""?

 

[A4C]

Furthermore, living entities have an important quality that dishwashers do not possess - they reproduce. It's rather an important distinction.

Eactly And reproduction was an important part of the design.

 

[maha]

When I'm asked how old the earth is, I always say a few billion years. It leaves me a couple billion years to work with going over or under that estimate. If someone wants a more accurate answer, like to the hundreds of millions of years, I would ask why that is important to them. Then I would tell them that it is something we could never know. However, I think we can safely say that the earth is between a range of 3 to 5 billion years old--scientifically speaking.

 

[In A Perfect World]

Eactly And reproduction was an important part of the design.

Why was reproduction part of the design? Other than to further genes and allow organisms a chance to change to compete with other organisms?

 

[A4C]

Why was reproduction part of the design? Other than to further genes and allow organisms a chance to change to compete with other organisms?

Can you name one species that survives without having a reproduction system?

 

[nvxplorer]

Eactly And reproduction was an important part of the design.

Why?

 

[AnEmpiricalAgnostic]

This is called a Claytons refute - The type of refute you have when you are not having a refute

Go check my edit as well as prax’s link.

 

[nvxplorer]

Can you name one species that survives without having a reproduction system?

You must be a real hoot at job interviews.

 

[In A Perfect World]

Can you name one species that survives without having a reproduction system?

What do you mean "system"? Like reproductive organs?

Bacteria split and do not need sexual reproduction, partially because they don't need excessive mutations to build immunity against bacteria, because they simply are, bacteria.

Humans can survive with gutted reproductive systems, they just cannot pass on their DNA.

Species as wholes cannot survive up until now for thousands or millions of years without reproduction. Trees can live very very long lives, but will probably die eventually.

 

[Praxiteles]

For the last time, Evolution doesn't say we came from monkeys.

Wrong.

 

[A4C]

What do you mean "system"? Like reproductive organs?

Bacteria split and do not need sexual reproduction, partially because they don't need excessive mutations to build immunity against bacteria, because they simply are, bacteria.

Humans can survive with gutted reproductive systems, they just cannot pass on their DNA.

Species as wholes cannot survive up until now for thousands or millions of years without reproduction. Trees can live very very long lives, but will probably die eventually.

A "system " meaning "produces it's own kind" whether that uses organs or whatever
All such "systems" require a designer and GOD is that designer.

 

[GodsSamus]

I apologize as I can not find the link, but I have seen someone on this very forum refute that. The pottery turned out to be forgeries made by natives from images they saw in comic books. Maybe someone can help me out with a reference. I’ll keep looking and add it as an edit later.

EDIT: [url="http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=10663018&postcount=5 (thanks"]http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=10663018&postcount=5 (thanks[/url] prax)

Indians who don't even have a television read comic books? Besides, the pictures had circles on the skin.

 

[Praxiteles]

Can you name one species that survives without having a reproduction system?

That's tautological. A species could not exist unless it reproduced.

Reproduction exists prior to species. Indeed, it exists prior to life (as we understand it).

(BTW, the noun form of refute is refutation. Just thought you'd like to know. )

 

[A4C]

Wrong.

Correct

 

[nvxplorer]

Indians who don't even have a television read comic books? Besides, the pictures had circles on the skin.

What to televisions and comic books have to do with each other?

The hoax was admitted to, but I guess you could dismiss the confession as being a lie.

What do circles have to do with it? The pictures also showed dinosaurs with five toes.

 

[Asimov]

Indians who don't even have a television read comic books? Besides, the pictures had circles on the skin.

People who don't even have Malaria have AIDS?????!!!

 

[Ozymandius]

Indians who don't even have a television read comic books? Besides, the pictures had circles on the skin.

Honestly that's amazing. So either you beleive the people who forged these things lied about their forging them and they are authentic (and that makes lots of sense), or you're just laying out some trollbait. Which is it?

 

[Asimov]

Correct

Incorrect.

 

[A4C]

A species could not exist unless it reproduced.

Exactly That is why evolution is impossible