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Not according to BiblehubFirst, its raqia, not Raqa.
Second, how does it help your case? What do you want to do with an expanse between two masses of water and with stars in it?
It can only switch the conversation to "does it mean the firmament or the space between the firmament and the earth", but it changes nothing about the Hebrew cosmology.
There’s no mention of any water on the fourth day. There’s the expanse the sky and there’s the expanse space. They’re two different expanses. It really does seem like you intentionally go out of your way to misunderstand anything I say.First, its raqia, not Raqa.
Second, how does it help your case? What do you want to do with an expanse between two masses of water and with stars in it?
It can only switch the conversation to "does it mean the firmament or the space between the firmament and the earth", but it changes nothing about the Hebrew cosmology.
a) where does it say that God dictated anything to Moses - never mind the events that happened before Moses was born and after he died?
There is a purpose, and personal God, behind the creation of the earth - it wasn't chance, fate, kismet, an accident or anything else.
How GOD created, we are not told. And we don't need to know - not for salvation or spiritual growth, anyway.
There’s no mention of any water on the fourth day. There’s the expanse the sky and there’s the expanse space. They’re two different expanses. It really does seem like you intentionally go out of your way to misunderstand anything I say.
Sorry, the words "the Lord dictated the first 5 books of the Bible" are, where in that sentence?Exodus 33:11
And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp:
I never said that you did.Never said it was.
Because some people aren't listening.So you keep saying.
Well you haven't proved anything.Doesn't it say in the Bible to prove all things ?
But thats a different word ;-) This one is not used in the "firmament" passage.Not according to Biblehub
There’s no mention of any water on the fourth day. There’s the expanse the sky and there’s the expanse space. They’re two different expanses. It really does seem like you intentionally go out of your way to misunderstand anything I say.
No I didn’t, I think the waters above would either be the clouds or the atmosphere.You've forgot the waters above.
That is not the word used in Genesis 1:17 which is used on the fourth day of creation where the sun, moon, and stars were placed.But thats a different word ;-) This one is not used in the "firmament" passage.
This one is - raqia: Strong's Hebrew: 7549. רָקִ֫יעַ (raqia) -- an extended surface, expanse
Do birds fly in the same expanse as the sun & moon?So God made the "raqia" and separated the water under the "raqia" from the water above it. And it was so.
Gen 1:7
What do you mean they are two different raqias? Where did you get this idea from?
It is raqia, its just in a different form because of the preposition - bir-qî-a‘.That is not the word used in Genesis 1:17 which is used on the fourth day of creation where the sun, moon, and stars were placed.
It is raqia, it’s just in a different form because of the preposition - bir-qî-a‘.
I don’t know why they’re spelled differently I just used the version provided by Biblehub for Genesis 1:17. That’s one reason I prefer Biblehub over Strong’s Concordance, because Biblehub gives the specific usage and spelling of the words whereas Strong’s doesn’t do that. Take the word day for example. If you search for the word day in Strong’s concordance in the OT every single example is going to be Yom, but if you search for it in Biblehub you’ll get Yovm, Yamim, Yemei, Beyovm, and a few more variations of the word Yom, each with its own distinct meaning.It is raqia, its just in a different form because of the preposition - bir-qî-a‘.
Try to click on 7549 in your own link ;-)
The Bible doesn’t say that there is only one expanse.Scientifically, such cosmology does not exist. Biblically, yes.
Sorry, the words "the Lord dictated the first 5 books of the Bible" are, where in that sentence?
Do birds fly in the same expanse as the sun & moon?
There was no need. Biblical cosmology was nothing revolutionary, regarding the composition. It was different theologically, though.The Bible doesn’t say that there is only one expanse.
Well, the Hebrew language is so ambiguous that no precise translation is possible. The word "al" can have all these meanings:No - They do not fly in the Firmament/Vault of heaven
The Bible mentions an expanse separating the waters below from the waters above. The Bible also mentions an expanse that God places the sun, the moon, and the stars in. Are the sun, the moon, and the stars in between the waters below and the waters above?There was no need. Biblical cosmology was nothing revolutionary, regarding the composition. It was different theologically, though.
And if you look at Hebrew, you will see both occurrences in Genesis are exactly the same phrase - the firmament of heavens.
Therefore, nothing indicates they are meant as two firmaments or expanses.
Never said that he didn't.The Bible proves that Moses talked with God face to face,
No one - not even you.who knows what other things they may have talked about.
How do you know that Adam and Eve didn't know about creation, and they taught it to Caine and Seth? How do you know Seth didn't pass it onto his sons - and so on, all the way down to Noah? Lamech, Noah's father, certainly seemed to know about the garden of Eden, Genesis 5:29.How else could Moses have written the first five books of the Bible.
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