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"And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it."

I would rather not have the Lord rejoicing to destroy me. He has promised to do that to you though if you will not hearken unto him. Hearken unto Lord Jesus. He that has ears to hear, let him hear.

Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Obey the Lord's commandments, don't twist them around. Gay is sin, simple as that. Two gay men having sex does not produce children, nor two women. Egg and sperm are required, meaning female and male are required. And I might as well add that even if the country made same-sex marriages legal, they still would be illegal in heaven and same-sex marriage partners will still perish just as quickly in the lake of fire.
 
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Same-sex marriage is not adultery. It's not a "disorder" of any kind. It's just marriage.
a·dul·ter·y . pl. a·dul·ter·ies Voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a partner other than the lawful spouse.

Which is how I've always understood it. Gay bashers are taking liberties again, I see.
 
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There is not such thing as as "illegitimate child." All children are blessings from God, and all children are "legitimate."

Many gay people bear children within marriage relationships.


Use scripture to prove to me that children born out of sanctioned wedlock are not illegitimate.

There is only one authority, and that is God.
 
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Mat 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh

Jesus only sanctified marriages between a man and his wife.

wife:
G1135
γυνή
gunē
goo-nay'
Probably from the base of G1096; a woman; specifically a wife: - wife, woman.
 
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I do not believe that God has commanded anyone not to be gay, nor has God commanded gay people to repudiate our marriages. God created us gay, and God blesses our marriages.
 
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Jesus said nothing about same-sex relationships. For you to decide that Jesus condemns them is just you imposing your particular prejudices on Jesus.
 
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Use scripture to prove to me that children born out of sanctioned wedlock are not illegitimate.

There is only one authority, and that is God.
To call a child "illegitimate" is unkind and stigmatizes children. It's wrong for that reason. I would never call a child such a name. To do so is unethical.
 
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I do not believe that God has commanded anyone not to be gay, nor has God commanded gay people to repudiate our marriages. God created us gay, and God blesses our marriages.

It matters not whether you believe that or not. The fact is that God has forbidden homosexual behaviour, and you are in disagreement with your Maker. You have no leg to stand on with Him.

God doesn't know sinners, nor bless their so-called marriages.
 
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You can beat us over the head with scripture all you want, and that isn't going to make me agree with you. I just skip over it, because it is meaningless to me.
 
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To call a child "illegitimate" is unkind and stigmatizes children. It's wrong for that reason. I would never call a child such a name. To do so is unethical.

It is unkind to create illegitimate children. That's why God created family with one father and one mother---because He knowsw what's best for children. Usurping His way and His authority with your own is foolish, not to mention blasphemous.
 
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It matters not whether you believe that or not. The fact is that God has forbidden homosexual behaviour, and you are in disagreement with your Maker. You have no leg to stand on with Him.

God doesn't know sinners, nor bless their so-called marriages.
Again, we'll just have to agree to disagree about these matters.
 
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To call a child "illegitimate" is unkind and stigmatizes children. It's wrong for that reason. I would never call a child such a name. To do so is unethical.
I agree, it seems now that the gay bashers on this forum are not only bashing us, but bashing our adopted children.
 
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Jesus said nothing about same-sex relationships. For you to decide that Jesus condemns them is just you imposing your particular prejudices on Jesus.

This is why he "said nothing" about same-sex relationships:

Eph 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
 
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It matters not whether you believe that or not. The fact is that God has forbidden homosexual behaviour, and you are in disagreement with your Maker. You have no leg to stand on with Him.

God doesn't know sinners, nor bless their so-called marriages.

Well, actually he does know sinners.

(Matthew 9:13) But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

(Mark 2:17) When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

(Luke 5:32) I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

(Matthew 11:19) The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

(Luke 7:34) The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

He knows sinners. At the same time, he calls them to repentance. There is none righteous, no, not one.
 
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This is why he "said nothing" about same-sex relationships:

Eph 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

Actually, you could say that He did. YHWH did, anyway. And if YHWH= God and Christ = God, then Christ did also.
 
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He knows who are sinners, but he doesn't KNOW them.

When I say "know" I mean to "know" them intimately as a husband and wife "know" each other. Only believers have such a relationship with God. Those outside of the family of God do not partake of the things of God, for He doesn't know them.

It's the same "know" that Jesus will say when He says, "Depart from me for I never knew you."
 
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He doesn't know them?

Odd that, he went out of his way to interact with sinners. Remember the tax collector?
 
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