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How much OT/NT prophecy do Partial-Preterists view as fulfilled?
For example, do they view Luke 21 as fulfilled in 70ad, as even some futurists maintain?
Thanks.
Some tidbits about Luke 21:
The Temple Discourse in Luke 21 (not the Olivet Discourse)
Posted on August 9, 2012 by The Orange Mailman
Luke 21 does not contain the Olivet Discourse
Jesus prophesied that the temple would be destroyed. Later in the evening, four disciples come privately and receive instruction concerning the Coming of the Son of Man and the End of the Age, but Jesus’ immediate response to the crowd recorded in Luke 21 did not occur on the Mount of Olives. It occurred publicly at the temple in the hearing of the crowds........
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For example, do they view Luke 21 as fulfilled in 70ad, as even some futurists maintain?
Thanks.
Some tidbits about Luke 21:
The Temple Discourse in Luke 21 (not the Olivet Discourse)
Posted on August 9, 2012 by The Orange Mailman
Luke 21 does not contain the Olivet Discourse
Jesus prophesied that the temple would be destroyed. Later in the evening, four disciples come privately and receive instruction concerning the Coming of the Son of Man and the End of the Age, but Jesus’ immediate response to the crowd recorded in Luke 21 did not occur on the Mount of Olives. It occurred publicly at the temple in the hearing of the crowds........
There you go. That means Matthew 24 is not the same thing as Luke 21. Luke 21 was inside the Temple in the morning. Jesus was sitting down inside a place called the "women's" court. He had to "look up' to see the poor old widow put money in the treasury which was located around the outside perimeter of that court.
Matthew 24 begins in the evening of that day while Jesus was LEAVING the temple and walking away. I have a great picture of the steps at the corner of that facility which were probably the ones that He walked down. That complex was quite awesome. They were at the start of a 20 minute walk down the temple mount, across the Kidron Valley and up to the mount called Olivet where He lodged. The geography remains the same today. That's why they call it the Olivet Discourse and not the Temple Discourse.
But this time while leaving the temple and walking away, it was just the disciples that made admiring compliments at the outside of the buildingS of the temple complex. Earlier in Luke there were some that were speaking of the temple from it's inerior, how it was adorned with noble stones and offerings. But when they reached the Olivet it was night. It occurred to some of the disciples that Jesus meant something much more serious than just those buildings of the temple complex. "There will not be left HERE one stone upon another. Not an island or mountain remaining in it's place, so the wicked will march across a broad plain of an earth.
These disciples were aware of the old DOTL prophecies that spoke of the earth staggering to and fro like a drunkard, swinging back and forth like a hammock. So when the gravity of this situation sunk in, four disciples came to Him in private. Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately. Tell us when will these things be and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the world. There were no rich people, no Pharisees and no poor old widows and no treasury on the mount of Olives that night.
Luke 21 is written in the architecture of a day of the Lord prophecy, it's split into thirds. A near-far prophecy. Jesus stops at verse 12: "but before all this, and skips back in time to the first century. It's similar to Isaiah 13.
Matthew 24 is written in the architecture of an apocalyptic prophecy. It never breaks the chronological order. Matthew 24/25 is all for our time, from WW1 and WW2, until right now. It's elementary Watson, you can find it. It's why Luke pulled the AofD out of chapter 21 and put it in chapter 17.
"And every day he was teaching in the temple,--->"but at night he went out and lodged on the mount called Olivet.
but at night he went out and lodged on the mount called Olivet.
"And early in the morning all the people came to him in the temple to hear him.
Compare Luke's Gospel to that of Matthew if you want to understand the timing.
Jesus Foretells Destruction of the Temple (These subtitles are found in e-Sword.)
Luk 21:24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
(Almost all Bible scholars agree that the first part of the verse above is about 70 AD. At the end of the verse we find a period of time known as “the times of the Gentiles”. In the verses that follow we find the future Second Coming of Christ.)
The Book of Matthew was addressed mainly to a Jewish audience. Jesus was telling the Jews of His time that something similar to 167 BC would happen during 70 AD. Not only did Antiochus desecrate the temple, but he also attacked the city killing thousands of Jews and stopped the temple sacrifices. The temple sacrifices would also stop in 70 AD, due to the destruction of the temple. Based on John 10:22, the Jews were well aware of this historical fulfillment of Daniel’s prophecy. Luke’s Gospel was written to more of a Gentile audience, so he spelled it out for them.
Matthew 24:15-16 and Luke 21:20-21 are clearly parallel accounts, because we have the exact same warning to flee from Judea to the mountains in the second verse of each Gospel.
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