How much of Matthew 24 is fulfilled

[Zeena]

You must have missed my answer: the meek shall inherit the earth

And are not all those verses you quoted from before the ascention of Christ?

Matt 24:2-3
And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

What do we reap after He entered Heaven for us?

Earthly, or Spiritual things?

 

[he-man]

And are not all those verses you quoted from before the ascention of Christ?

Matt 24:2-3
And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Not hardly Christ, himself believed Daniel Mat 24:15.
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

You think the Lord has come the second time with ten thousands of his saints, ? I guess Daniel must be nuts? Do you think all nations and people will serve him in heaven and not on earth? Do you not believe Daniel and the Abomination of Desolation or Dan 7:13?


1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall give back every man according to his works.

Do you think that the TARES and offensive things and those which do iniquity, are in heaven ?

Have the angels come forth, and severed the wicked from among the just, ?

Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this age.

41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

49So shall it be at the end of the age: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

I think that good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple

Rom 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people;thereshall they be called the children of the living God

Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom which shall not be destroyed

Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east,

9 The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you.

Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

And are not all those verses you quoted from before the ascention of Christ?

Matt 24:2-3
And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

What do we reap after He entered Heaven for us?

Earthly, or Spiritual things?

Good verses!

It harmonizes with the book of Revelation quite nicely me thinks

Matthew 24:1 And coming-out, the Jesus, He went from the temple, and toward-came the disciples of Him to show to Him the buildings of the temple
2 The yet Jesus saying to them, "Not ye see all these?
Amen I am saying to ye, not no be being left here stone upon stone, which not shall be being thrown down"
[Mark 21:5/Luke 19:43/Reve 14:8]

Luke 19:43 That shall be arriving days upon thee, and thy enemies shall be casting up a rampart/siege-work to thee, and shall be encompassing thee, and pressing thee every which place.
44 And shall be leveling thee and thy offspring in thee, and not shall be leaving stone upon stone in thee, stead which not thou knew the time of thy visitation".
[Revelation 14:8]

Reve 14:8 And another Messenger, second-one follows saying "She falls, She falls, Babylon the Great, the out of the wine of the fury of the fornication of her she has given to drink all the nations".

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

.......The Temple now presented little more than a heap of ruins............

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

And are not all those verses you quoted from before the ascention of Christ?

Not hardly Christ, himself believed Daniel Mat 24:15.

You think the Lord has come the second time with ten thousands of his saints, ? I guess Daniel must be nuts? Do you think all nations and people will serve him in heaven and not on earth? Do you not believe Daniel and the Abomination of Desolation or Dan 7:13?.

I don't think the Jews of today understand Daniel much in relation to the Olivet Discourse

http://www.christianforums.com/t7548832/
Where is Abomination of Desolation showing in Revelaton?

http://www.awitness.org/lostmess/daniel.html

The book of Daniel has become important to Christian theology because the gospel of Mark made constant reference to the book, calling Christ the son of man, and because Mark wrote an apocalypse borrowing the image of the Beast of Daniel's prophecy, which would appear again later in the Christian Apocalypse, the Book of Revelations.....................

..........................As a final point I have to ask how, after those early churches embarrassed everyone by reading Daniel in an uncritical way and being gullible about the Bible, and prophecy in particular, you really have to wonder why any other modern church would want to do the same thing, repeat the same mistake, and embarrass themselves in the same way as those early churches did.

It turns out that there are certain things you can learn by not taking the Bible literally all the time, and this lesson is certainly one of them..................

 

[he-man]

I don't think the Jews of today understand Daniel much in relation to the Olivet Discourse

http://www.christianforums.com/t7548832/
Where is Abomination of Desolation showing in Revelaton?

False prophets in Daniel in the Bible. Revived Roman Empire, Beast of the Apocalypse of Mark, and Antiochus the Selucid Greek

The book of Daniel has become important to Christian theology because the gospel of Mark made constant reference to the book, calling Christ the son of man, and because Mark wrote an apocalypse borrowing the image of the Beast of Daniel's prophecy, which would appear again later in the Christian Apocalypse, the Book of Revelations

Mark wrote an apocalypse? When? What manuscript? Daniel does not mention it nor does he give a specific time when Chapter Twelve is to take Place.

Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Mar 13:32But of that day andthathour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of wickedness be revealed, the son of wastage;

8 And then shall that wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Mat 13:38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked.

Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

 

[he-man]

And are not all those verses you quoted from before the ascention of Christ?Matt 24:2-3
And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

What do we reap after He entered Heaven for us? Earthly, or Spiritual things?

MY TURN
See Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

"all nations shall come and worship before [Him]," their King Revelation 15:3

In Matthew 5:3 Jesus says that the poor in spirit receive the "kingdom of heaven," while the meek "inherit the earth"

"And You have made them a kingdom (royal race) and priests to our God, and they shall reign on the earth!" Revelation 5:10

Revelation 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!"

Revelation 3:12; 21:2, 10 the "holy city," New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven

Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people.

God Himself will be with them and be their God. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away. ... He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son." (Revelation 21:1-4, 7)

Also see Psalm 2:6-8; 47:1-9; Jeremiah 23:5; Ezekiel 37:21-28; Daniel 2:44-45; 7:17-18, 27; Micah 4:1-5; Zechariah 9:9-10; 14:9, 16-17; Revelation 2:26-27.)

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

http://www.awitness.org/lostmess/daniel.html

False prophets in Daniel in the Bible. Revived Roman Empire, Beast of the Apocalypse of Mark, and Antiochus the Selucid Greek

The book of Daniel has become important to Christian theology because the gospel of Mark made constant reference to the book, calling Christ the son of man, and because Mark wrote an apocalypse borrowing the image of the Beast of Daniel's prophecy, which would appear again later in the Christian Apocalypse, the Book of Revelations

Mark wrote an apocalypse? When? What manuscript? Daniel does not mention it nor does he give a specific time when Chapter Twelve is to take Place..

Yeah I didn't understand that either.

But Mark 14:62 does mention to those Judean rulers that they would see Him coming upon the clouds of Heaven, as Jesus also says to them in Matt 26:64. Whether they ever did or not, who knows
Interesting

Young) Mark 13:26 `And then they shall see the Son of Man coming in clouds with much power and glory,

Young) Mark 14:62 and Jesus said, `I am; and ye shall see the Son of Man sitting on the right hand of the power, and coming with the clouds, of the heaven.'

Matt 26:64 Jesus is saying to him "thou say, moreover I am saying to ye, from present/now ye shall be seeing the Son of the Man sitting out of rights of the power and coming upon the clouds of the heaven".
[Jeremiah 4:13/Daniel 7:13/Reve 1:7/6:16]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7405089-4/#post53043894
What the sign?

Matt 24:3....and what? the Sign...
Mark 13:4...and what? the Sign...
Luke 21:7....and what? the Sign....

 

[Zeena]

You are evading the Truth which you have asked to be revealed to you and you are charged to earnestly defend!

And you are accusing, therefore are you charged more earnestly to abide.

If you wish to comment, then address the verses given to you and tell me exactly what it means when it says and we shall reign on the earth.

This is speaking of after the second coming of Christ. AFTER the Judgement. And it is a new earth, even as Evergreen48 quoted.

Gal 4:4-7.... Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

Have you yet inherited the Physical Spiritual EARTH in this life?

My inheritance is not here and now, but I look to that which will be. Though for now, as I abide in Christ, He reigns both in and through me. All things were created by Him, just as all things were created for Him. Therefore are all things mine in Him, because they are His.

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

After the Judgement. Yet, both now and forever, for the above.

Jesus reigns now, and will be subject then so that God may be all in all.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

1 Cor 15:20-28
But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Heb 2:5-8
For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak. But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man that thou visitest him? Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

WE SEE not..

Rom 3:3
For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

Rom 4:16-18
Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were. Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.

Isa 46:10-13
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted, that are far from righteousness: I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.

Eph 3:6
That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Heb 10:35-39
Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward. For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

Rom 8:24-25
For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

Acts 26:6
And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God, unto our fathers:

Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

I don't understand the book of Daniel. Prolly never will. But that's okay, 'cuz I don't need to. What I need is the Life of Christ indwelling me by His Holy Spirit, for daily Living.

God said 'all Scripture is given by God and is profitable for all Godly endevours', through an Apostle, yet He also said that 'we are complete in Him' and 'the Holy Spirit is our teacher'. Therfore, if ones mind cannot wrap around any given text, God is still able to make him stand.

Ergo, since I do not have any particular revelation regarding Daniel, at this time, therfore I do not comment.

Mat 12:32And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Sprit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

There is a world to come, see!

It is not here yet, but it is coming..

Wait for Him!

Jas 2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

Jesus has said many, many times, that the Kingdom of God is within you, and that you now have eternal Life. Because He Lives, you shall also Live, ect, ect..

If we take His Word at face value, apart from faith, we find some future tense to the words. But with God all things are possilbe. He calls those things that are not as though they are, He brings Light out of darkness and He even quickens the dead. Ergo are these all promises to those who would believe.

1 Tim 1:15-17
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

2Ti 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

2 Tim 4:18
And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Heavenly Kingdom?

This is either an internal Kingdom or a future one, you decide, with the aid of our Father.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the appearance of his coming:

Rev 22:7Behold, I come quickly: blessedishe that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

Have you heard me say that Jesus will not come again in Glory?
If He should come many times, this might nullify a LOT of 'Prophecy'.

 

[Zeena]

MY TURN
See Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

"all nations shall come and worship before [Him]," their King Revelation 15:3

In Matthew 5:3 Jesus says that the poor in spirit receive the "kingdom of heaven," while the meek "inherit the earth"

"And You have made them a kingdom (royal race) and priests to our God, and they shall reign on the earth!" Revelation 5:10

Revelation 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!"

Revelation 3:12; 21:2, 10 the "holy city," New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven

Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people.

God Himself will be with them and be their God. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away. ... He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son." (Revelation 21:1-4, 7)

Also see Psalm 2:6-8; 47:1-9; Jeremiah 23:5; Ezekiel 37:21-28; Daniel 2:44-45; 7:17-18, 27; Micah 4:1-5; Zechariah 9:9-10; 14:9, 16-17; Revelation 2:26-27.)

Anything from the Epistles?

Then mabey I can relate.

 

[Evergreen48]

You think the Lord has come the second time with ten thousands of his saints, ? I guess Daniel must be nuts? Do you think all nations and people will serve him in heaven and not on earth?


Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Yes, the Lord did come with ten thousands of his saints (hagios). A 'saint' is something or someone that God has consecrated or set apart and made different from others of its same kind. The thing that he declares holy does not have to be perfect or undefiled. He can make a saint out of an old rusty bucket if he so desires it for his service. Did he not use thousands of the Roman soldiers in his judgement upon his people in 70 A. D.?

Lev. 27:32. "And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD. 33. He shall not search whether it be good or bad, neither shall he change it: and if he change it at all, then both it and the change thereof shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.

Do you not believe Daniel and the Abomination of Desolation or Dan 7:13?

The following is Luke's account of The abomination of desolation:

Luke 21:20. "And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21. Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22. *For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled."

This 'abomination of desolation' is referring to the Roman army and its standing in the holy place. For not only was the city itself with the glorious temple holy, but the ground for quite a distance around it was also holy. the Roman army was called an 'abomination' because of its ensigns and images, such as the great golden eagle which they brought in and mounted over against the eastern gate of the city. They even made sacrifices to it afterwards. (Josephus' "Wars Of the Jews" book 6 chapter 6)

*Also, note what Jesus said in verse 22.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1 Thess. 4:16. "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17.Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

If this passage speaks of a physical coming, then it stands in a direct contradiction to the following:

Heb. 9:27. "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28. So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation."

Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall give back every man according to his works.

Matt. 16:27 "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

And then the scripture continues in verse 28: "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom."

Do you think that the TARES and offensive things and those which do iniquity, are in heaven ?

Have the angels come forth, and severed the wicked from among the just, ?

Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this age.

41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

49So shall it be at the end of the age: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

We are missing something very important to our understanding such scriptures if we do not keep in mind that until the time of the preaching the good news of the kingdom to the Gentiles, the national kingdom of Israel was God's kingdom. It was to them only that he gave his laws, ordinances, and promises. Jesus came unto his own people - the Jews. He did not teach or preach to the Gentiles at all during his ministry here on earth. What he taught about the kingdom of heaven had reference to only the Jews. He came preaching to them, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." . He taught them concerning the NEW kingdom that was about to be established. Most of the Jews thought that the approaching kingdom that Jesus talked about would be a kingdom that would restore to them their former prominence of glory and grandeur among, even above, all other nations of the earth. But Jesus was having them to know that the kingdom of heaven over which he would reign would not be of this world but would be of the heavenly nature. He taught by parables how the tares and all the offensive things that were abiding in the present kingdom would be removed, thus leaving his kingdom in a cleansed and purified state. And when he talked about a judgement at the 'end of the age' it was not the end of what is commonly called the 'world', of which he spoke, but it was the end of the Jewish polity which was still being governed by the old mosaic law system. The end of that age came in 70 A.D. when God used the Roman armies as his messengers (aggelos - sometimes heavenly beings, sometimes simply earthly beings) to completely level the city of Jerusalem, and the holy temple which stood within. This served two purposes. One: it was 'pay back' time for such as those wicked men who 'sat in Moses' seat' who layed "heavy burdens on shoulders of their own people" - using God's holy laws for trickery and deceit - defrauding such as the widows and the poor, taking even what little they had, for themselves (see Matthew, chapter 23.), thus 'severing the wicked from among the just'.
Two: it left no place where the old covenant law system could be dispensed and exacted upon his people. It removed the last remaining vestige of that which 'never could take away the sins of the people', thus leaving the way clear for his NEW cleansed and purified kingdom which was not of this earth, but was moved entirely into the spiritual, heavenly realm where Jesus would reign supreme. It is no wonder that Jesus taught them to 'not lay up treasures for themselves on earth, but to lay up for themselves treasures in heaven, for where their treasure was, there would be their hearts also'. The notion that Jesus will in the future come back to this earth again and establish a kingdom here, surely must have been conceived in the mind of someone who does not want to let go of their earthly posessions in hopes of bringing them with them into the God's spiritual kingdom. 'Never the twain shall meet!'

 

[he-man]

Anything from the Epistles?

Then mabey I can relate.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Mat 5:5 Blessed the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Revelation 3:12; 21:2, 10 the "holy city," New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven

Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people.

God Himself will be with them and be their God. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away. ... He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son." (Revelation 21:1-4, 7)

Isa 25:8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken.

Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

"all nations shall come and worship before [Him]," their King Revelation 15:3

"And You have made them a kingdom and priests to our God, and they shall reign on the earth!" Revelation 5:10

Revelation 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!"

Mat 21:5 Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.

Mar 11:10 Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest.

Mat 2:6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a P[FONT=Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]rincedom[/FONT][/FONT] that shall [FONT=Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]shepherd [/FONT][/FONT] my people Israel.

A principality (or princedom) is a monarchical feudatory or sovereign state, ruled or reigned over by a monarch with the title of prince or princess, or a monarch with another title within the generic use of the term prince.
(Wikipedia.org )

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Here is another interesting thing....all 3 authors of the Olivet Discourse mention "sign".
Keeping in mind that Jesus spoke all of this to the Jews while their Temple was still standing

http://www.christianforums.com/t7405089-4/#post53043894
What the sign?

Matt 24:3....and what? the Sign...
Mark 13:4...and what? the Sign...
Luke 21:7....and what? the Sign....

Revelation 12:1 And a great Sign was seen in the Heaven.............
3 And was seen another Sign in the Heaven, and behold!....

Reve 15:1 And I saw another Sign in the heaven, great and marvelous......

 

[Zeena]

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Mat 5:5Blessedthe meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

14Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Revelation 3:12; 21:2, 10 the "holy city," New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven

Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people.

God Himself will be with them and be their God. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away. ... He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son." (Revelation 21:1-4, 7)

Isa 25:8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken.

Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

"all nations shall come and worship before [Him]," their King Revelation 15:3

"And You have made them a kingdom and priests to our God, and they shall reign on the earth!" Revelation 5:10

Revelation 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!"

Mat 21:5 Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.

Mar 11:10 Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest.

Mat 2:6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a P[FONT=Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]rincedom[/FONT][/FONT] that shall [FONT=Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]shepherd [/FONT][/FONT]my people Israel.

A principality (or princedom) is a monarchical feudatory or sovereign state, ruled or reigned over by a monarch with the title of prince or princess, or a monarch with another title within the generic use of the term prince.
(Wikipedia.org )

Those are of the Gospels, not the Epistles love.

IOW, anything from after the acsention of the Lord Jesus Christ?

Revelations, to me, is pretty much all over the place to, that's why I say the Epistles, thanks

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Those are of the Gospels, not the Epistles love.

IOW, anything from after the acsention of the Lord Jesus Christ?

Revelations, to me, is pretty much all over the place to, that's why I say the Epistles, thanks

The word "parousia" is used in the Epistles, but also only in Matt 24 of the Gospels

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number G3952 matches the Greek παρουσία (parousia), which occurs 24 times in 24 verses in the Greek concordance of the KJV

Scripture4All - Greek/Hebrew interlinear Bible software

parousiaV <3952> Mentioned 6 times. Matt 24:3; Phil 1:26; 2 Thess 2:1,8; James 5:7; 2 Peter 3:4

parousia <3952> Mentioned 15 times. Matt 24:27, 37, 39; 1 Corin 15:23, 16:17; 2 Corin 7:6,7, 10:10; Phil 2:12; 1 Thess 2:19, 3:13, 5:23; 2 Thess 2:9; James 5:8, 1 John 2:28

parousian <3952> Mentioned 3 Times 1 thess 4:15; 2 Peter 1:16; 2 Peter 3:12

http://www.christianforums.com/t7431980/#post58220238
Where is the Parousia of Matt 24 showing in Revelation?

 

[he-man]

Those are of the Gospels, not the Epistles love.

IOW, anything from after the acsention of the Lord Jesus Christ?

Revelations, to me, is pretty much all over the place to, that's why I say the Epistles, thanks

Mat 24:3 and what shall be the sign of thy coming G3952
,27,37,39 so shall also the coming G3952 of the Son of man be.

1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming G3952

1Th 2:19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming G3952 ?

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming G3952 of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming G3952 of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

 

[he-man]

Those are of the Gospels, not the Epistles love.

IOW, anything from after the acsention of the Lord Jesus Christ?

Revelations, to me, is pretty much all over the place to, that's why I say the Epistles, thanks

comingG3952

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

comingG3952

So is this word

Young) Matthew 24:30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in the heaven; and then shall all the tribes of the earth smite the breast,
and they shall see the Son of Man coming/ercomenon <2064> (5740) upon the clouds of the heaven, with power and much glory;
[Jeremiah 4:13/Daniel 7:13/Reve 1:7/6:16]

Young) Mark 13:26 `And then they shall see the Son of Man coming/ercomenon <2064> (5740) in clouds with much power and glory,

Young) Luke 21:27 `And then they shall see the Son of Man, coming/ercomenon <2064> (5740) in a cloud, with power and much glory;

Scripture4All - Greek/Hebrew interlinear Bible software

ercomenon <2064> (5740) used 16 times in 16 verses in NT

 

[Zeena]

Mat 24:3 and what shall be the sign of thy coming G3952
,27,37,39 so shall also the coming G3952 of the Son of man be.

1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming G3952

1Th 2:19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming G3952 ?

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming G3952 of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming G3952 of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

God is here now, He not only is the Life of every believer, but He is also fills the universe.

John 5:25
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.


Please explain, using simple words, where you think I am, or have been mistaken.

Thanks

 

[he-man]

God is here now, He not only is the Life of every believer, but He is also fills the universe. John 5:25Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.Please explain, using simple words, where you think I am, or have been mistaken.
Thanks

We are talking about the Physical return of Christ to set up the Kingdom of God here on the EARTH. "The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord" and we shall reign on the earth.

Acts 17:11 These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.

The saints shall constitute peculiarly a kingdom of God, and shall themselves be kings (Rev_5:10). They shall share His King-Priest throne in the millennial kingdom. JFB

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Revelation 3:12; 21:2, 10 the "holy city," New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven

Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying,

"Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people.

Rev 1:6 And hath made us a Kingdom and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Rev 3:12Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, a new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and my new name.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

God is here now, He not only is the Life of every believer, but He is also fills the universe.

John 5:25
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.


Please explain, using simple words, where you think I am, or have been mistaken.

Thanks

Have you checked out this thread?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7590903/#post58505903
Question on, Matt.27:52-52.

Matt.27:52-53, "And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after His (Christ's) resurrection, and went into the holy city (Jerusalem) and appeared unto many."