jerry kelso
Food For Thought
First... this is my last message to you.
It is not a matter of whether the Bible "says specifically in plain language....
that is not the way the Bible was written - or else the Jews would have understood
there was another TWO Kingdoms after theirs and before the Lord Returned.
I have given you Scriptures specifically NAMING the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
You do not care.... you do not even TRY to refute the Scripture (you intentionally ignore them)
I have given you Scriptures specifically NAMING the (4th) Great Tribulation
"Kingdom of Heaven... you do not care... and you do not even TRY to refute
the Scripture (you simply intentionally ignore the Scripture)
I have given you Scriptures specificallly NAMING the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
but you don't care... you do not even TRY to refute the Scriptures (you only ignore them)
I have given you Scripture specifically NAMING the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"
but you don't care... you do not even TRY to refute the Scripture (you just ignore instead)
That is your right... you can intentionally ignore Scripture.
But you cannot pretend to have found truth when you do so.
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Secondly... you do not even understand what the FIRST RESURECTiON represents.
I explained it to you.... I gave you SCRIPTURES supporting the Biblical truth....
but you just do not care. Therefore it is a waste of my time to talk to you
because you do not even TRY to harmonize Scripture. How sad:
Simply put: The "First Resurrection" is when we are "born again"
It is when we go from spiritual DEATH to spiritual LIFE
When we are "translated" into the KOG.
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While the redemption of our bodies does not occur until the Seventh Trumpet, our souls are redeemed when we become saved.
The souls of Saints enter into the "Kingdom of God" when we are indwelt with His Holy Spirit and our soul is "born again".
The "dead" souls of the Saints enter into the eternal "Kingdom of God" when they are "raised" by the Holy Spirit of God.
The "quickening" of our dead souls, as we are "born again" by the indwelling Holy Spirit of God, is the point in time
when we (our souls) are taken out of the "Kingdom of Babylon" and translated into the eternal "Kingdom of God".
Eph 2:5 Even when we were DEAD in sins, hath QUICKENED us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
6 And hath RAISED US up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water [the Gospel]
and of the Spirit [and of the Holy Spirit], he cannot enter into the KINGDOM OF GOD.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh: and that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit.
While we enter into the temporal "Kingdom of Heaven" when we become associated with, and preach the Gospel of, one of Daniel's
four earthly Kingdoms - we enter into the eternal "Kingdom of God" when we (our souls) are "translated" from the spiritual death
of Satan's "Kingdom of Babylon" and we (our souls) are "regenerated" or "born again" by the "indwelling" Holy Spirit of God.
While our souls are redeemed when we are "raised" or "quickened" by His Spirit, our bodies are redeemed at the Last Trump.
(11) The "Kingdom of God" represents the Holy Spirit of God - and those "indwelt" with His Spirit.
The "Kingdom of God" represents the souls (but not the bodies) of those who are "born again" (saved)
in each of Daniel's four "Kingdoms of Heaven", and those within the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
While there are FIVE "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth... there's only ONE "Kingdom of God".
Daniel's four Kingdoms are physical Kingdoms - the "Kingdom of God" is a spiritual Kingdom.
After understanding the difference between the (five) "Kingdoms of Heaven" and the (one) "Kingdom of God",
the next question becomes: What is the Biblical definition of the phrase "Kingdom of Babylon"? Throughout the
Christian Kingdom, Saints could never understand "Babylon the Great", which is demonstrated as the Bible [Rev 17:5]
actually NAMES this Kingdom "Mystery Babylon". We now reveal the "unsealed" mystery of the "Kingdom of Babylon".
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5thkingdom,
1. You are the one that was saying it specifically says that this the first kingdom of Heaven, 2nd, etc.
I pointed out it said no such thing and now you are having to backtrack and clarify what I told you in the beginning about context.
I also told you that you more or less was dividing up the KoH's just like dispensations and that can lead to trouble in some things due to hermeneutical views. That is why there are different types of dispensationalism.
The Bible doesn't say there was the dispensation of conscience but the context shows that is how God dealt with them and is what they will be judged by in Romans 2.
So I believe you are the one who is not understanding the truth.
Even Daniel doesn't label specifically 1-5 KoH.
He does call them a kingdom and and four great beasts etc.
Since the KoH is the earthly sphere of the Universal KoG in their physical aspect we can say the KoH.
2. The Jews didn't know about the mystery of the church and that is true Acts 10:48; Ephesians 2:14-15; 3:3-6.
Peter and the disciples still believe the KoH reign would happen but were confused and Jesus said it is not for you to know the time of restoration cause only the father knows.
Peter's ministry was basically To Christian Jews and that is why the KoH slant appears in his books and ministry and even on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2.
The main reason the disciples didn't understand many things in the early church especially was gradual revelation and circumstances of the time and what they were taught specifically or not.
For example of gradual revelation is that the mystery of the church was ratified by the cross Ephesians 2:14-16 but not manifested till Acts 10 with Peter and the Vision of the clean and unclean and Ephesians 3:3-6 with Paul.
3. The first resurrection in Revelation 20:4-6 is about tribulation believers that didn't take the mark of the beast who are physically resurrected.
John 11:25-26 is about Jesus saying he was the resurrection and the life and he that believeth in me shall live forever is spiritual.
For a Christian it has to be the First Resurrection in order to be saved and to be resurrected physically to go to Heaven.
I told you being born again and the KoG has a spiritual aspect concerning salvation and the cross which is the same as being translated into the kingdom of his dear son Colossians 1:13.
Once again you are not comprehending too well.
4. The resurrection of the bodies at the 7th Trump in Revelation 11:14 is not true.
The 7th Trump is in the middle of the tribulation and not at the end of the tribulation.
This is because they are before and end before the vials begin which is the Wrath of God Revelation 15:1-2 upon the beast kingdom worshippers Revelation 16:2.
Also, Revelation 12 is in the days of the 7th trumpet which reveals the mystery of God being finished Revelation 10:7 which was the Satan, accuser of the brethren being cast out of the war in Heaven Revelation 12:10.
Israel goes into the wilderness and the remnant of her seed is scattered v 17.
The 7th trumpet days is the transition of Satan handing over the power and seat and authority to the Antichrist which is in Revelation 13:2.
The 7th trumpet of Revelation 11 is not the last trump of 1 Corinthians 15:51-52.
5. Daniel 's 4 kingdoms historically was Babylon, Medes and Persians, Greece, and Rome Daniel 2:38-40-43; 7:3-7.
The Ten horns are actually future from Daniel 7:7,24.
Verse 8; the little horn is the Antichrist who comes up among the 10 horns and plucks three of them up.
This goes in line with Revelation 17 and the Ten Horns.
6. Going back to the four kingdoms in Daniel are a part of the seven kingdoms in Revelation 17:9-11.
In short the kings in verse 10 and 11 of the 7 heads in verse 9 are the nations that oppressed Israel historically and future.
a). Egypt
b). Assyria
c). Babylon
d). Medes and Persians
e). Greece
f). Rome
g). The future Revised Roman Empire which will be the Ten horns.
h). The Antichrist kingdom which is of the seventh because he plucks up among the Ten horns and plucks 3 of them up.
The Antichrist is the eighth which is his own beast kingdom Revelation 13.
7. The Mystery Babylon of Revelation 17 is the religious system which the Ten horns will hate and with the help of the Antichrist will get rid of the religious system which is the harlot 16:18.
This will happen in the middle of the tribulation and then the Antichrist will set up his own religious system with the beast with the two horns and the lamb Revelation 13:11-15.
8. In conclusion, I understand the KoH as this earthly sphere there is the time that concerns the Jewish kingdom and the Christian kingdom and the tribulation kingdom and the eternal kingdom.
It probably would be easier for most if you said the Jewish period or Christian period etc on the KoH physical earth.
A-millennialists like Catholics believe the millennial kingdom is now instead of future and deals with the Davidic Covenant because God rules from Heaven.
This is not true when talking about the physical KoH reign on earth because the King is not here physically because he has not taken over the Kingdoms of the earth Revelation 11:15 and the restoration on earth has not happened yet because creation is groaning and waiting for restoration Roman's 8:22.
Also, your interpretation of Matthew 13 about the Christian KoH at the end of the age is wrong is because the Church will be raptured.
So you are confused and are trying to prove details when you don't understand the big picture and you have tunnel vision and faulty hermeneutics. Jerry kelso
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