How many "Kingdoms of Heaven" are there?

[5thKingdom]

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While not "unsealed" until the fulfillment of Daniel 12:8-10...
The Bible says there are FIVE (5) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth.
There are four temporal Kingdoms before the Lord establishes the fifth eternal Kingdom.

The Bible NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and 7 and 8 and 19
The Bible NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 25:1
The Bible NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 13
The Bible NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 22:2

Of course any Bible scholar would realize that, while it is not NAMED by Matthew
the First Kingdom was the (1st) Pre-Flood "Kingdom of Heaven" which contained
all the Saints from Adam to Noah. When that Kingdom was finished, all living Saints
were "harvested" on the Ark into the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven".

Of course, when the Jewish Kingdom was finished all living Saints were "harvested"
into the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" as they followed the Lord Jesus Christ
and His disciples.

It is interesting to note that the Gospel of each Kingdom was different.
The Gospel of the Christian Kingdom contained "new treasure" in addition
to the "old treasure" of the Jewish Gospel. Likewise for the Gospel of the
Fourth Kingdom, it also was different than the previous Gospels.

When the Great Commission is finished and all of the "sheep have been saved".
When all of the Saints have been "sealed"... all living Saints are then "harvested"
out of the Third Kingdom as they follow the person often called the "Anti-Christ"
into the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".


Mat 25:1 THEN [the beginning of the Great Tribulation] shall the Kingdom of Heaven
[the "wheat" and the "tares"] be likened unto [look like] TEN VIRGINS [all the Believers],
which took their lamps [took their Gospels], and went forth [from the 3rd Kingdom - into
the 4th Kingdom] to meet the Bridegroom [to meet the Lord Jesus].


When the Fourth Kingdom is finished all living Saints are "harvested" into
the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" and the Lord Jesus Christ Returns
at the Seventh Trumpet.

Each of the four temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" contained BOTH
the saved "wheat/sheep" and the unsaved "tares/goats" claiming
to be Believers. Unfortunately, in each "Kingdom of Heaven" there
were MANY unsaved "tares" and relatively FEW saved "wheat".


BTW.... we can know absolutely that Matthew 25:1 is NOT talking about the
"harvest" of Saints at Pentecost because verses 25:7-9 never happened in
the history of the Great Commission.



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[RaymondG]

Which kingdom of heaven is it that is described as being within you in luke?

 

[5thKingdom]

Which kingdom of heaven is it that is described as being within you in luke?

The Term "Kingdom of Heaven" is only found in Matthew.
Which Scripture are you asking about... have a chapter/verse?

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[Petros2015]

Luke 17:20-21

 

[RaymondG]

The Term "Kingdom of Heaven" is only found in Matthew.
Which Scripture are you asking about... have a chapter/verse?

.

It was posted above: Luke 17:20-21 The term used is Kingdom of God and not Heaven.......Do you find this to be two different places?

 

[5thKingdom]

Luke 17:20-21

You have asked a good question.
But notice the term used in Luke 17:20 is not "Kingdom of Heaven".... instead, it's "Kingdom of God".... there is a difference.
I will explain the difference in the post below this one - and give examples of verses where the two terms are used separately
and where they are used interchangeably... so check out the following post as well.

Now... to answer your question.

The "Kingdom of God" refers to the ONE ETERNAL KINGDOM which contains only the "wheat/sheep".... but no "tares/goats".
It is the same Kingdom as the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven". Just to be clear.... the "Kingdom of God" represents
a SUBSET of the "Kingdom of Heaven"... it's the Eternal Kingdom - New Jerusalem - containing only the Saints.
The "Kingdom of God" exists during EACH of the four (4) "Kingdoms of Heaven" but it only includes those
who have been "born again".

But let me show you how the Luke account shows four (4) of the five (5) "Kingdoms of Heaven".

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Luk 17:20 And when He was demanded of the Pharisees [the Pharisees represent the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"
containing both "wheat and tares"), when the Kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said,
The Kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

The next verse talks about the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"... during the Great Commission.
It explains that the "Kingdom of God" exists throughout each "Kingdom of Heaven"... but it only contains
the "wheat" and not the "tares"... and it contains a warning about the false doctrines of the "tares" during
the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven".

21 Neither shall they [the tares] say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the Kingdom of God is within you.

The next passage is talking about the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" when the Anti-Christ reigns
during the Revelations Beast... which occurs AFTER the Great Commission is finished and AFTER all the Saints are "sealed"
and AFTER the "testimony" of the Saints is finished... when salvation is no longer available... because all the "sheep"
have been saved.

Luk 17:22 And He said unto the disciples [the wheat], The days will come, when ye [the wheat] shall desire to see
one of the days of the Son of man [days of salvation], and ye shall not see it [during the reign of the Anti-Christ].
Luk 17:23 And they [the foolish virgins] shall say to you [the wise virgins], See here; or, see there: go not after them
[do not believe the tares preaching the Gospel of the Anti-Christ], nor follow them [do not follow the Beast].

The next verse shows the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" or the ONE Eternal "Kingdom of God"
when ONLY the "wheat" are taken to be with the Lord during the Final Harvest

Luk 17:24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven;
so shall also the Son of man be in his day.


Can I clarify anything for you?

 

[jnhofzinser]

So...
Matthew introduces the message of Jesus with these words (4:17):
“Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
...and Mark introduces the message of Jesus with these words (1:15):
“The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”

But rather than explain this as a result of two different translators rendering the same Aramaic phrase into Greek (anyone with translation experience recognizes that this kind of thing is common), you explain this as if a Gnostic/English/Greek (i.e., analytic/concrete) approach to the gospel is preferred to the Aramaic (i.e., synthetic/metaphoric) approach.

But here's the bottom-line question: what possible value to any kingdom derives from the distinctions that you seem to think are so important?

 

[ToBeLoved]

Luke 17:20-21

Just to add a bit to the conversation.

The word "kingdom" in that verse uses the original Greek word (see below) and there are 77 occurences of that word in the Bible.

932 [e]
basileia
βασιλεία

HELPS Word-studies

932 basileía (from 935 /basileús, "king") – properly, kingdom; the realm in which a king sovereignly rules. A kingdom (932 /basileía) always requires a king – as the kingdom (932 /basileía) of God does with King Jesus! 932 (basileía) especially refers to the rule of Christ in believers' hearts – which is a rule that "one day will be universal on the physical earth in the Millennium" (G. Archer).

[The kingdom (932 /basileía) is constantly used in connection with the rule of Christ in the hearts of believers – which also extends in various stages.]

The root word can also mean sovereignty or kingship/ruler

 

[ToBeLoved]

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While not "unsealed" until the fulfillment of Daniel 12:8-10...
The Bible says there are FIVE (5) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth.
There are four temporal Kingdoms before the Lord establishes the fifth eternal Kingdom.

The Bible NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and 7 and 8 and 19
The Bible NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 25:1
The Bible NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 13
The Bible NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 22:2

Of course any Bible scholar would realize that, while it is not NAMED by Matthew
the First Kingdom was the (1st) Pre-Flood "Kingdom of Heaven" which contained
all the Saints from Adam to Noah. When that Kingdom was finished, all living Saints
were "harvested" on the Ark into the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven".

Of course, when the Jewish Kingdom was finished all living Saints were "harvested"
into the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" as they followed the Lord Jesus Christ
and His disciples.

It is interesting to note that the Gospel of each Kingdom was different.
The Gospel of the Christian Kingdom contained "new treasure" in addition
to the "old treasure" of the Jewish Gospel. Likewise for the Gospel of the
Fourth Kingdom, it also was different than the previous Gospels.

When the Great Commission is finished and all of the "sheep have been saved".
When all of the Saints have been "sealed"... all living Saints are then "harvested"
out of the Third Kingdom as they follow the person often called the "Anti-Christ"
into the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".


Mat 25:1 THEN [the beginning of the Great Tribulation] shall the Kingdom of Heaven
[the "wheat" and the "tares"] be likened unto [look like] TEN VIRGINS [all the Believers],
which took their lamps [took their Gospels], and went forth [from the 3rd Kingdom - into
the 4th Kingdom] to meet the Bridegroom [to meet the Lord Jesus].


When the Fourth Kingdom is finished all living Saints are "harvested" into
the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" and the Lord Jesus Christ Returns
at the Seventh Trumpet.

Each of the four temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" contained BOTH
the saved "wheat/sheep" and the unsaved "tares/goats" claiming
to be Believers. Unfortunately, in each "Kingdom of Heaven" there
were MANY unsaved "tares" and relatively FEW saved "wheat".


BTW.... we can know absolutely that Matthew 25:1 is NOT talking about the
"harvest" of Saints at Pentecost because verses 25:7-9 never happened in
the history of the Great Commission.



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I've never heard of that before and I've been around the Bible a lot over 40 years

 

[5thKingdom]

Just to add a bit to the conversation.

The word "kingdom" in that verse uses the original Greek word (see below) and there are 77 occurences of that word in the Bible.

932 [e]
basileia
βασιλεία

HELPS Word-studies

932 basileía (from 935 /basileús, "king") – properly, kingdom; the realm in which a king sovereignly rules. A kingdom (932 /basileía) always requires a king – as the kingdom (932 /basileía) of God does with King Jesus! 932 (basileía) especially refers to the rule of Christ in believers' hearts – which is a rule that "one day will be universal on the physical earth in the Millennium" (G. Archer).

[The kingdom (932 /basileía) is constantly used in connection with the rule of Christ in the hearts of believers – which also extends in various stages.]

The root word can also mean sovereignty or kingship/ruler

Thanks for the input... it is exactly the correct process to check-out the original words and to compare
how they are used in other passages. That is the ONLY way to understand how the Bible defines the word.
God reserves the right to define words as He Pleases... it is our privilege to understand His meaning for the word.

The Strong's Concordance lists G932 (translated as "kingdom") occurring 162 times in the Bible.
I have used Strong's for over 40 years and found it to be the most reliable concordance available.
I do not know why the concordance you used only showed 77 uses.

But I do not think it really matters for two reasons:

(1) The word makes no distinction between physical/political kingdoms (like the Roman empire)
and spiritual kingdoms (like the Jewish Kingdom or Christian Kingdom). We are only concerned
with the spiritual meaning of the word... we already know the "Kingdom of God" is spiritual.
So a concordance only shows us that the word is consistently translated as "kingdom".

(2) The discussion and focus is on the meaning of the difference between "Kingdom of Heaven"
and "Kingdom of God". So we have to see the CONTEXT of passages using the term to discover
what meaning God intended.

The studies on this thread show there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before
the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".

The studies on this thread show the phrase "Kingdom of Heaven" means the Kingdom of "wheat and tares"
preaching the Gospel of God. It could be the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 22:2] or it could be the
(3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 13] or it could be the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" Mat 25:1]

However... there is one caveat:
We find that the term "Kingdom of Heaven" also is used to refer to the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
[Mat 5 and 7 and 8 and 19]... which includes only the WHEAT and not the tares... and it includes no flesh.

By contrast, the term "Kingdom of God" ALWAYS refers to the Eternal Kingdom.
In other words... the "Kingdom of God" does not include the "wheat and tares"... it only includes the "wheat".
It is the eternal Kingdom.

Each kingdom is an earthly Kingdom.
The "Kingdom of Heaven" includes the bodies of those preaching the Gospel of God (both the "wheat and tares")
The "Kingdom of God" includes only the SOULS (not the bodies) of the "wheat"... it does not include their bodies.
This is because, when we are "born again" it is only only our SOUL that is regenerated and "translated" from the
Kingdom of Satan to the "Kingdom of God". Our bodies remain in Satan's Kingdom until the Resurrection.
Flesh cannot inherit the "Kingdom of God".

Consider how amazing it is that the difference between the "Kingdom of Heaven" and the "Kingdom of God"
was not revealed to the Saints... until the Last Saints living on earth now. While much of the Lord's preaching
was about the "Kingdom of Heaven" and the "Kingdom of God"... the Biblical Truth about the difference was not
revealed until very recently.


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[Douggg]

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While not "unsealed" until the fulfillment of Daniel 12:8-10...
The Bible says there are FIVE (5) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth.

No the Bible does not say five Kingdoms of Heaven on earth. five Kingdoms of Heaven on earth is false doctrine and false teaching.

21 Bible verses about Kingdom Of Heaven

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Matthew 18:3
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and said, "Truly I say to you, unless you are converted and become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 19:23
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And Jesus said to His disciples, "Truly I say to you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 16:19
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"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven."

Mark 4:26-29
And He was saying, "The kingdom of God is like a man who casts seed upon the soil; and he goes to bed at night and gets up by day, and the seed sprouts and grows--how, he himself does not know. "The soil produces crops by itself; first the blade, then the head, then the mature grain in the head. read more.

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Mark 4:26-29
And He was saying, "The kingdom of God is like a man who casts seed upon the soil;

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Matthew 13:44-46
"The kingdom of heaven is like a treasure hidden in the field, which a man found and hid again; and from joy over it he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field. "Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant seeking fine pearls, and upon finding one pearl of great value, he went and sold all that he had and bought it.

Matthew 13:31-43
He presented another parable to them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field; and this is smaller than all other seeds, but when it is full grown, it is larger than the garden plants and becomes a tree, so that THE BIRDS OF THE AIR come and NEST IN ITS BRANCHES." He spoke another parable to them, "The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three pecks of flour until it was all leavened." read more.

Matthew 13:47-52
"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet cast into the sea, and gathering fish of every kind; and when it was filled, they drew it up on the beach; and they sat down and gathered the good fish into containers, but the bad they threw away. "So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous, read more.

Matthew 25:14-30
"For it is just like a man about to go on a journey, who called his own slaves and entrusted his possessions to them. "To one he gave five talents, to another, two, and to another, one, each according to his own ability; and he went on his journey. "Immediately the one who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and gained five more talents. read more.

Matthew 25:1-13
"Then the kingdom of heaven will be comparable to ten virgins, who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. "Five of them were foolish, and five were prudent. "For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them, read more.

Matthew 22:1-14
Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying, "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son. "And he sent out his slaves to call those who had been invited to the wedding feast, and they were unwilling to come. read more.

Matthew 13:24-30
Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field. "But while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went away. "But when the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the tares became evident also. read more.

Matthew 20:1-16
"For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. "When he had agreed with the laborers for a denarius for the day, he sent them into his vineyard. "And he went out about the third hour and saw others standing idle in the market place; read more.

Matthew 18:21-35
Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?" Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. "For this reason the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves. read more.

Luke 8:10
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And He said, "To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is in parables, so that SEEING THEY MAY NOT SEE, AND HEARING THEY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND.

Matthew 19:14
Verse Concepts
But Jesus said, "Let the children alone, and do not hinder them from coming to Me; for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

Mark 10:14
Verse Concepts
But when Jesus saw this, He was indignant and said to them, "Permit the children to come to Me; do not hinder them; for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.

Matthew 19:23-24
And Jesus said to His disciples, "Truly I say to you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. "Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Mark 10:23
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And Jesus, looking around, said to His disciples, "How hard it will be for those who are wealthy to enter the kingdom of God!"

Luke 18:29-30
And He said to them, "Truly I say to you, there is no one who has left house or wife or brothers or parents or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God, who will not receive many times as much at this time and in the age to come, eternal life."

Mark 4:30-34
And He said, "How shall we picture the kingdom of God, or by what parable shall we present it? "It is like a mustard seed, which, when sown upon the soil, though it is smaller than all the seeds that are upon the soil, yet when it is sown, it grows up and becomes larger than all the garden plants and forms large branches; so that THE BIRDS OF THE AIR can NEST UNDER ITS SHADE." read more.

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Kingdom of heaven » Rich people cannot enter
Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a granule of mustard seed
Kingdom of heaven » Children of the
Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a man who sowed good seed
Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a man, traveling into a far country, who called his servants, and delivered to them his goods
Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a king who made a marriage feast for his son
Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To leaven (yeast)
Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a king who called his servants for a reckoning (an audit)
Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a net
Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a householder
Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To ten virgins
Kingdom of heaven » My kingdom is not of this world,
Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a treasure
Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a pearl
Kingdom of heaven » Not » Meat » Drink
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Kingdom of heaven » Mysteries of
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Church » Kingdom of heaven
Matthew 5:3
Verse Concepts
"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 3:2
Verse Concepts
"Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

Matthew 4:17
Verse Concepts
From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

Matthew 10:7
Verse Concepts
"And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'

Matthew 5:10
Verse Concepts
"Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

More verses: Matthew 5:19-20
Kingdom of heaven » Rich people cannot enter
Matthew 19:23-24
And Jesus said to His disciples, "Truly I say to you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. "Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Mark 10:23-25
And Jesus, looking around, said to His disciples, "How hard it will be for those who are wealthy to enter the kingdom of God!" The disciples were amazed at His words. But Jesus answered again and said to them, "Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God! "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Luke 18:24-25
And Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for those who are wealthy to enter the kingdom of God! "For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Luke 18:29-30
And He said to them, "Truly I say to you, there is no one who has left house or wife or brothers or parents or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God, who will not receive many times as much at this time and in the age to come, eternal life."

Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a granule of mustard seed
Matthew 13:31-32
He presented another parable to them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field; and this is smaller than all other seeds, but when it is full grown, it is larger than the garden plants and becomes a tree, so that THE BIRDS OF THE AIR come and NEST IN ITS BRANCHES."

Luke 13:18-19
So He was saying, "What is the kingdom of God like, and to what shall I compare it? "It is like a mustard seed, which a man took and threw into his own garden; and it grew and became a tree, and THE BIRDS OF THE AIR NESTED IN ITS BRANCHES."

Mark 4:30-31
And He said, "How shall we picture the kingdom of God, or by what parable shall we present it? "It is like a mustard seed, which, when sown upon the soil, though it is smaller than all the seeds that are upon the soil,

Kingdom of heaven » Children of the
Matthew 18:3
Verse Concepts
and said, "Truly I say to you, unless you are converted and become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 19:14
Verse Concepts
But Jesus said, "Let the children alone, and do not hinder them from coming to Me; for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

Mark 10:14
Verse Concepts
But when Jesus saw this, He was indignant and said to them, "Permit the children to come to Me; do not hinder them; for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.

Luke 18:16
Verse Concepts
But Jesus called for them, saying, "Permit the children to come to Me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.

Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a man who sowed good seed
Matthew 13:24-30
Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field. "But while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went away. "But when the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the tares became evident also. read more.

Mark 4:26-29
And He was saying, "The kingdom of God is like a man who casts seed upon the soil; and he goes to bed at night and gets up by day, and the seed sprouts and grows--how, he himself does not know. "The soil produces crops by itself; first the blade, then the head, then the mature grain in the head. read more.

Matthew 13:38-43
and the field is the world; and as for the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one; and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels. "So just as the tares are gathered up and burned with fire, so shall it be at the end of the age. read more.

Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a man, traveling into a far country, who called his servants, and delivered to them his goods
Luke 19:12-27
So He said, "A nobleman went to a distant country to receive a kingdom for himself, and then return. "And he called ten of his slaves, and gave them ten minas and said to them, 'Do business with this until I come back.' "But his citizens hated him and sent a delegation after him, saying, 'We do not want this man to reign over us.' read more.

Matthew 25:14-30
"For it is just like a man about to go on a journey, who called his own slaves and entrusted his possessions to them. "To one he gave five talents, to another, two, and to another, one, each according to his own ability; and he went on his journey. "Immediately the one who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and gained five more talents. read more.

Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a king who made a marriage feast for his son
Luke 14:16-24
But He said to him, "A man was giving a big dinner, and he invited many; and at the dinner hour he sent his slave to say to those who had been invited, 'Come; for everything is ready now.' "But they all alike began to make excuses. The first one said to him, 'I have bought a piece of land and I need to go out and look at it; please consider me excused.' read more.

Matthew 22:2-14
"The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son. "And he sent out his slaves to call those who had been invited to the wedding feast, and they were unwilling to come. "Again he sent out other slaves saying, 'Tell those who have been invited, "Behold, I have prepared my dinner; my oxen and my fattened livestock are all butchered and everything is ready; come to the wedding feast."' read more.

Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To leaven (yeast)
Matthew 13:33
Verse Concepts
He spoke another parable to them, "The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three pecks of flour until it was all leavened."

Luke 13:21
Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a king who called his servants for a reckoning (an audit)[/paste:font]
Matthew 18:23-35
"For this reason the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves. "When he had begun to settle them, one who owed him ten thousand talents was brought to him. "But since he did not have the means to repay, his lord commanded him to be sold, along with his wife and children and all that he had, and repayment to be made. read more.

Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a net
Matthew 13:47-50
"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet cast into the sea, and gathering fish of every kind; and when it was filled, they drew it up on the beach; and they sat down and gathered the good fish into containers, but the bad they threw away. "So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous, read more.

Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a householder
Matthew 20:1-16
"For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. "When he had agreed with the laborers for a denarius for the day, he sent them into his vineyard. "And he went out about the third hour and saw others standing idle in the market place; read more.

Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To ten virgins
Matthew 25:1-13
"Then the kingdom of heaven will be comparable to ten virgins, who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. "Five of them were foolish, and five were prudent. "For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them, read more.

Kingdom of heaven » My kingdom is not of this world,
John 18:36
Verse Concepts
Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm."

Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a treasure
Matthew 13:44
Verse Concepts
"The kingdom of heaven is like a treasure hidden in the field, which a man found and hid again; and from joy over it he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field.

Kingdom of heaven » Compared » To a pearl
Matthew 13:45
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Romans 14:17
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Matthew 16:19
Verse Concepts
"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven."

Kingdom of heaven » Mysteries of
Luke 8:10
Verse Concepts
And He said, "To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is in parables, so that SEEING THEY MAY NOT SEE, AND HEARING THEY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND.

Kingdom of heaven » Good news of
Luke 8:1
Verse Concepts
Soon afterwards, He began going around from one city and village to another, proclaiming and preaching the kingdom of God. The twelve were with Him,

Spiritual » Eternal the growth of » Kingdom of heaven
Matthew 20:1
Verse Concepts
"For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard.

Matthew 25:1
Verse Concepts
"Then the kingdom of heaven will be comparable to ten virgins, who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.

Matthew 22:2
Verse Concepts
"The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son.

Matthew 13:44
Verse Concepts
"The kingdom of heaven is like a treasure hidden in the field, which a man found and hid again; and from joy over it he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field.

Matthew 13:24
Verse Concepts
Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field.

More verses: Matthew 13:31 Matthew 13:47

 

[5thKingdom]

I've never heard of that before and I've been around the Bible a lot over 40 years

I agree... most people have not heard this Biblical Truth.
And I have been preaching for about 40 years.

However the Bible DOES indicate that Daniel's prophecies would not be "unsealed" until the "time-of-the-end" [Dan 12:8-10]
which is also shown as the "Season and Time" on earth AFTER Daniel's Fourth Kingdom is destroyed. [Dan 7:11-12]
BTW... we know absolutely that Rome was not Daniel's Fourth Kingdom because of Daniel 7:12.

So we would not expect anyone to understand the Truth about Daniel's Kingdoms
UNTIL the "time-of-the-end" and/or the "Season and Time". At the same time...
the Bible PROMISES that the Last Saints "shall understand" Daniel's prophecies.

Secondly... history confirms Bible prophecy.
It is a historical FACT that the (1st) Pre-Flood "Kingdom of Heaven" was the FIRST Kingdom on earth.
And it's a historical FACT that the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" was the SECOND Kingdom of earth. [Mat 22:2]
It's a historical FACT that the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" was the THIRD Kingdom on earth. [Mat 13]
And few would dispute the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" occurs at the END of the Great Commission. [Mat 25:1]

So you have harmony of History (aka "reality")... and you have harmony of Scripture.
How cool is that?


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[ToBeLoved]

Secondly... history confirms Bible prophecy.
It is a historical FACT that the (1st) Pre-Flood "Kingdom of Heaven" was the FIRST Kingdom on earth.
And it's a historical FACT that the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" was the SECOND Kingdom of earth. [Mat 22:2]
It's a historical FACT that the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" was the THIRD Kingdom on earth. [Mat 13]
And few would dispute the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" occurs at the END of the Great Commission. [Mat 25:1]

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Ok, I'll bite. Show me that these things you are preaching are historical facts.

 

[5thKingdom]

No the Bible does not say five Kingdoms of Heaven on earth. five Kingdoms of Heaven on earth is false doctrine and false teaching. This thread and topic is not even an eschatological subject.

My friend Douggg (notice I used the 3 g's)

(1) The Bible NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and 7 and 8 and 19.... are you saying the BIBLE is wrong?

(2) The Bible NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 25:1.... are you saying the BIBLE is wrong?

(3) The Bible NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 13... are you saying the BIBLE is wrong?

(4) The Bible NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 22:2.... are you saying the BIBLE is wrong?


Now I admit that the Bible does not NAME the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom as the "Kingdom of Heaven"...
but most Bible scholars can figure-out which Kingdom preceded the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"

Thank you for expressing your "feelings" on the subject.
And thank you for cutting-and-pasting a bunch of Scriptures,
but you only need to deal with the Scriptures noted in #1-4 above.




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[5thKingdom]

Ok, I'll bite. Show me that these things you are preaching are historical facts.

I don't understand you....
You want me to show you that that the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which included all the Saints from Adam to Noah
occurred BEFORE the (2nd) Jewish Kingdom which included all the Saints in national Israel? And you want me to show you
that the Jewish Kingdom occurred BEFORE the (3rd) Christian Kingdom which included all the Saints following the Lord Jesus?

Is this not common knowledge?


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[Douggg]

My friend Douggg (notice I used the 3 g's)

(1) The Bible NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and 7 and 8 and 19.... are you saying the BIBLE is wrong?

(2) The Bible NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 25:1.... are you saying the BIBLE is wrong?

(3) The Bible NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 13... are you saying the BIBLE is wrong?

(4) The Bible NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 22:2.... are you saying the BIBLE is wrong?

The bible does not name them as 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 for there to be five distinct Kingdoms of Heaven. In contrast, the bible does say for example 7 kings in Revelation 17. And 2 witnesses in Revelation 11.

The numbers are in the text.

But number designations are not in any of the text you reference. Nor Great Tribulation prefix; nor Christian prefix; nor Jewish prefix.

 

[5thKingdom]

The bible does not name them as 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 for there to be five distinct Kingdoms of Heaven. In contrast, the bible does say for example 7 kings in Revelation 17. And 2 witnesses in Revelation 11.

The numbers are in the text.

But number designations are not in any of the text you reference. Nor Great Tribulation prefix; nor Christian prefix; nor Jewish prefix.

First... I have already given you the SCRIPTURES showing the BIBLE calling each of the Kingdoms by the NAME "Kingdom of Heaven"
So I do not understand WHY you want to argue with me about what the Bible NAMES as the definition of a specific phrase.
Apparently, the only fault you can find is the Bible did not do the math (addition) for you. Sorry about that, complain to God.
But you should remember this mystery was "sealed" (from all Saints) until a specific time.
That time is called the "Season and Time" [Dan 7:11-12]

I will try to help you by starting with the FACT that Daniel 7 reveals there are four (4) Kingdoms on earth
before the Lord Returns to establish the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".... and I will remind you that the number 5
comes after the number 4.


Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the FOURTH KINGDOM UPON EARTH, which shall be diverse
from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.



(1) Daniel 7 reveals there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms" on earth before the Lord Returns
to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom". The term "Beast" refers to "Kingdoms" of very real people.
Those people are called by many different names in many other passages - but that is another post.

(2) You can claim there are not five "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth as much as you want.
However, your fight is with the BIBLE (not with me). I have already listed the SCRIPTURES
which name each of the Five Kingdoms - except the (1st) Pre-Flood "Kingdom of Heaven".
But any serious Bible student would admit the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom from Adam to Noah
preceded the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"... which was the "wheat and tares" living
in national Israel.

(3) More than all of that....
You are not only arguing with the Harmony of Scripture, you are also arguing with history (reality).
It is a historical FACT that the (2nd) Jewish Kingdom followed the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom and
the (3rd) Christian Kingdom followed the Jewish Kingdom.

And most (if not all) eschatology students would admit that the Great Tribulation FOLLOWS
the end of the Great Commission.

I doubt if you can find ANYONE who will argue the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" is not the LAST KINGDOM.

So you are arguing with the Bible (not with me)....
And you are arguing with History/Reality (not with me)....
Good luck with that.


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[Douggg]

First... I have already given you the SCRIPTURES showing the BIBLE calling each of the Kingdoms by the NAME "Kingdom of Heaven"

Those scriptures have always been there. But what you are attempting to add is your innovation of asserting the text says 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ...... kingdoms of Heaven. You are also adding Great Tribulation prefix; Christian prefix; and Jewish prefix.

(1) Daniel 7 reveals there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms" on earth before the Lord Returns
to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom".

The four kingdoms represented by the different beasts coming out of the sea in Daniel 7 are not called Kingdoms of Heaven.

The four kingdoms were the Babylonian empire, the Medes-Persian empire, the Greek empire, the Roman Empire. The Kingdom of God does not come out of the sea - but from Heaven.

The four kingdoms come out the sea and are temporal, because they originate with man and the nations.

The Kingdom of God is not a fifth in a series of kingdoms coming out of the nations. The Kingdom of God comes from Heaven. Daniel did not see five kingdoms coming out of the sea.

 

[ToBeLoved]

I don't understand you....
You want me to show you that that the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which included all the Saints from Adam to Noah
occurred BEFORE the (2nd) Jewish Kingdom which included all the Saints in national Israel? And you want me to show you
that the Jewish Kingdom occurred BEFORE the (3rd) Christian Kingdom which included all the Saints following the Lord Jesus?

Is this not common knowledge?


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You are adding kingdoms that are just not there in the text, nor are they categorized in the Bible like this.

The important thing to know is which books fall under the Old Covenant and which books the believers are under the New Covenant. IMHO.

One covenant is under the Law, the other under grace. A very important distinction.

 

[jnhofzinser]

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The language of the New Testament is Greek (we both know this). There are two separate words in Greek (we both know this). But here's the thing that you missed: the language that Jesus spoke to the inhabitants of Judea was almost certainly Aramaic -- because that was the native language of the people at the time.

So what I was saying was that the translators took one word (from the original Aramaic that Jesus spoke) and because they were two different translators (i.e., Matthew and Mark), they rendered that single Aramaic word into two different Greek words. If you were at all familiar with multiple languages or the business of translation, this would have been your "go-to" explanation of the two renderings.

But you didn't answer the bottom-line question. What possible value to any kingdom is this fanciful teaching of yours? How does it help the church? How does it help the lost? How does it bring us closer to Jesus? Or is it simply a diversion (i.e., all about you)?