How many have actually read The Great Controversy or The Desire of Ages...

[Tzaousios]

You know that symbol in your sig? it is the Baal Hadad... Sun/Sickle-Crescent Moon, even the Male/Female, and rebirth of the sungod.

Look it up...

Baal Hadad

It is not merely Arabic...

Do you even know why the Arabic letter for n is in her sig? Islamists in Iraq are marking Christian houses with this letter to target them for harassment and death.

Lord, have mercy!

Shiny Gospel Shoes has been reading too much SDA propaganda and not enough news about the real persecution and slaughter of Christians in ancient communities in the Middle East.

 

[BobRyan]

My bible is reliable in telling me that the preaching and teaching of Jesus Christ is the end-times prophetic movement that the old testament prophets were waiting to see and predicted.

Hebrews 11:32-40 NAB (32) What more shall I say? I have not time to tell of Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, of David and Samuel and the prophets, (33) who by faith conquered kingdoms, did what was righteous, obtained the promises; they closed the mouths of lions, (34) put out raging fires, escaped the devouring sword;
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Your statement is not entirely correct.


While it is true that the first coming of Christ was future to the days of the OT prophets as they foretold the future. So also was the many centuries long dark ages, and the 2nd coming of Christ -- both of which are predicted in Daniel 7.

you cannot shoehorn all of Bible prophecy into just dealing with the past.

It does not fit the details in the text.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[Shiny Gospel Shoes]

That is so funny. You think it took a Divine Messenger to see the blatantly obvious that the church(es) have been in bed with state almost from the beginning?

Any common blind unbeliever could have made the same conclusions.

Your sect has had it's reps in the seats of representatives in the U.S. as well, so don't act all surprised.

Were the lot of you in charge I shudder to think what you'd force everyone to do.

Really? In a day when the Roman Papacy was destitute of its state powers, being removed by Atheistically led France, under Napoleon? or further when Italy removed the Papal states and further wounded it? When America rejected Jesuits upon her shores, and cast the 'gift stone' [Pope's Stone] [after it was crushed to bits] to the Washington monument into the Patomac? and the power of the First Amendment was in true force?

Sounds like she [and Scripture] was way ahead of her [its] time, for as far as anyone else in the world could tell, Romanism was on its way out for good... and therfore that such a claim as it would regain its power, worldwide, and influence the very Laws of the US, would be insane/ludicrous to declare.

 

[Shiny Gospel Shoes]

Lord, have mercy!

Shiny Gospel Shoes has been reading too much SDA propaganda and not enough news about the real persecution and slaughter of Christians in ancient communities in the Middle East.

'Islam' is simply a tool being used... even as it was in the past. That which has been, is that which shall be. There is nothing new under the sun. If the history of Islam was understood, then one would understand what is happening there and why, and truly, by whom. That 'symbol' doesn't simply represent an alphic "n".

You may find more information, here - Picture Gallery

Or here - 216 - The Islamic Connection - Amazing Discoveries TV

'Islamic hordes' were simply being used/goaded to crush out area of resistance to someone else.

 

[Tzaousios]

'Islam' is simply a tool being used... even as it was in the past. That which has been, is that which shall be. There is nothing new under the sun. If the history of Islam was understood, then one would understand what is happening there and why, and truly, by whom. That 'symbol' doesn't simply represent an alphic "n".

You may find more information, here - Picture Gallery

Or here - 216 - The Islamic Connection - Amazing Discoveries TV

'Islamic hordes' were simply being used/goaded to crush out area of resistance to someone else.

Once again, missing the forest for the trees.

 

[Nik0s]

'Islam' is simply a tool being used... even as it was in the past. That which has been, is that which shall be. There is nothing new under the sun. If the history of Islam was understood, then one would understand what is happening there and why, and truly, by whom. That 'symbol' doesn't simply represent an alphic "n".

You may find more information, here - Picture Gallery

Or here - 216 - The Islamic Connection - Amazing Discoveries TV

'Islamic hordes' were simply being used/goaded to crush out area of resistance to someone else.

Are you serious with this absurdity?

 

[Mama Kidogo]

You know that symbol in your sig? it is the Baal Hadad... Sun/Sickle-Crescent Moon, even the Male/Female, and rebirth of the sungod.

Look it up...

Baal Hadad

It is not merely Arabic...

It is the letter Nun. It's being painted on the homes of Christians in Syria and Iraq by people offering them death if they don't convert to Islam. It's meaning is to show them (the Christians) as Christians.
Now before we get into what it can mean, perhaps you should know it's a letter of an alphabet. And also just so you know, there are actually Christians who speak and are Arabic.
I display it in support of the brethren being persecuted showing I am one with them.
Maybe you should look it up on something a bit more current. Praying for them might be a good idea as well.

I can't believe I just read that. Would you care to guess how many times that occurs in an Arabic Bible?
In Hebrew it looks like this:נ,ן In Greek and Latin it looks like this N
It's being used to call them Nazarene.
Oh those evil alphabets.

 

[Shiny Gospel Shoes]

Are you serious with this absurdity?

Most.

 

[Shiny Gospel Shoes]

It is the letter Nun. It's being painted on the homes of Christians in Syria and Iraq by people offering them death if they don't convert to Islam....

Are there any letters being painted on the doors of those which are not Christians who do not convert to Islam?

 

[Tzaousios]

Most.

Why are you obsessing about sun gods and Islam rather than praying for the Syrian, Iraqi, and Palestinian Christians who are ACTIVELY being persecuted and slaughtered? Is it because these Christians are too "Catholic?"

 

[Nik0s]

Most.

The ignorance displayed by that post is far beyond my ability to correct. I bow to the incomprehensible drivel contained therein and I make my exit. adieu

 

[squint]

Really? In a day when the Roman Papacy was destitute of its state powers, being removed by Atheistically led France, under Napoleon? or further when Italy removed the Papal states and further wounded it?

Uh, yeah. Did that take a prophet to see or anyone with half a wit?

When America rejected Jesuits upon her shores, and cast the 'gift stone' [Pope's Stone] [after it was crushed to bits] to the Washington monument into the Patomac? and the power of the First Amendment was in true force?

Sounds like she [and Scripture] was way ahead of her [its] time, for as far as anyone else in the world could tell, Romanism was on its way out for good... and therfore that such a claim as it would regain its power, worldwide, and influence the very Laws of the US, would be insane/ludicrous to declare.

She? Please. Why the pressing need to decry one religious leader, then turn in favor of another?

Determinists focus on determinism scriptures and determinism leaders.
Freewillers - - -
Legalists - - -
Sectarians - - -

and on it goes in christiandom, each contributing to their own choice of golden calf.

 

[Shiny Gospel Shoes]

Why are you obsessing about sun gods and Islam rather than praying for the Syrian, Iraqi, and Palestinian Christians who are ACTIVELY being persecuted and slaughtered? Is it because these Christians are too "Catholic?"

If they [whomever they be] died faithful to God, in the light they had received, they shall be in the resurrection of the righteous.

Jesus foretold these things. Wars and rumours of wars...

And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. Matthew 24:6
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...not yet, but soon.

Please do not think I have a hard heart against all the suffering. Far from it. I am actually quite tired of it all, yes even sick. But what does God think? Does He not see more than we?

It doesn't change the why though, and what is behind it.

 

[Tzaousios]

It doesn't change the why though, and what is behind it.

What is this statement supposed to mean in relation to Middle Eastern Christians?

 

[BobRyan]

It is the letter Nun. It's being painted on the homes of Christians in Syria and Iraq by people offering them death if they don't convert to Islam. It's meaning is to show them (the Christians) as Christians.

The extermination of heretics by members of Islam in Syria and Iraq is every bit the bad thing that the world sees it as. Matters not if such exterminations are declared to be infallible by their magisterium.

We can be thankful that the dark ages are over for Christianity and pray that Islam also chooses to leave them behind someday soon.

We can be thankful that Miriam was freed from Sudan.

The Catholic church could really help the members of Islam on this one. They could talk about their own history of infallibly calling for the extermination of heretics - and then point to the idea that today they have grown out of that and into a more civilized form of Christianity.

We can continue to pray for the deliverance of the Christians in Syria and Iraq and Sudan and other Islam controlled countries.

(And we can pray that the Christians in Europe stop declaring the Bible to be myth, false and blind-faith evolutionism to be true, accurate, trustworthy -- because Islam will thrive in that environment and Christianity will just dwindle).

in Christ,

Bob

 

[MoreCoffee]

My bible is reliable in telling me that the preaching and teaching of Jesus Christ is the end-times prophetic movement that the old testament prophets were waiting to see and predicted.

Hebrews 11:32-40 NAB (32) What more shall I say? I have not time to tell of Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, of David and Samuel and the prophets, (33) who by faith conquered kingdoms, did what was righteous, obtained the promises; they closed the mouths of lions, (34) put out raging fires, escaped the devouring sword; out of weakness they were made powerful, became strong in battle, and turned back foreign invaders. (35) Women received back their dead through resurrection. Some were tortured and would not accept deliverance, in order to obtain a better resurrection. (36) Others endured mockery, scourging, even chains and imprisonment. (37) They were stoned, sawed in two, put to death at sword's point; they went about in skins of sheep or goats, needy, afflicted, tormented. (38) The world was not worthy of them. They wandered about in deserts and on mountains, in caves and in crevices in the earth. (39) Yet all these, though approved because of their faith, did not receive what had been promised. (40) God had foreseen something better for us, so that without us they should not be made perfect.

1 Peter 1:10-12 NAB (10) Concerning this salvation, prophets who prophesied about the grace that was to be yours searched and investigated it, (11) investigating the time and circumstances that the Spirit of Christ within them indicated when it testified in advance to the sufferings destined for Christ and the glories to follow them. (12) It was revealed to them that they were serving not themselves but you with regard to the things that have now been announced to you by those who preached the good news to you (through) the holy Spirit sent from heaven, things into which angels longed to look.
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Your statement is not entirely correct. While it is true that the first coming of Christ was future to the days of the OT prophets as they foretold the future. So also was the many centuries long dark ages, and the 2nd coming of Christ -- both of which are predicted in Daniel 7. you cannot shoehorn all of Bible prophecy into just dealing with the past. It does not fit the details in the text.

in Christ,

Bob

"Dark ages"? What are those and when did they happen?

The new covenant is the final covenant of God with his people and when it is accomplished and the living and dead are judged then will be finished the mystery of God in creation. There's no shoe horn needed for the truth.

 

[Mama Kidogo]

Are there any letters being painted on the doors of those which are not Christians who do not convert to Islam?

I do not know but you are most certainly dodging.
You goofed and took a simple letter from the Arabic alphabet and applied some meaning to it it was not meant to represent.
So should arabs (Christians or not) not use their alphabet? I mean we use the term Saturday and we are not worshipping Saturn.
The Hebrews have the letter Nun:נ,ן
In Greek or Latin it's:N
Imagine that. Do you care to guess how many times that letter is used in the Arabic Translation of the Holy Bible?


I'm not even expecting an apology. And that is sad.

 

[Targaryen]

I do not know but you are most certainly dodging.
You goofed and took a simple letter from the Arabic alphabet and applied some meaning to it it was not meant to represent.
So should arabs (Christians or not) not use their alphabet? I mean we use the term Saturday and we are not worshipping Saturn.
The Hebrews have the letter Nun:נ,ן
In Greek or Latin it's:N
Imagine that. Do you care to guess how many times that letter is used in the Arabic Translation of the Holy Bible?


I'm not even expecting an apology. And that is sad.

I'm just amazed as well....

 

[Mama Kidogo]

I'm just amazed as well....

I'm no longer amazed. I see it for what it is. A deep seeded ignorance fueled by hate..

 

[Mama Kidogo]

The extermination of heretics by members of Islam in Syria and Iraq is every bit the bad thing that the world sees it as. Matters not if such exterminations are declared to be infallible by their magisterium.

We can be thankful that the dark ages are over for Christianity and pray that Islam also chooses to leave them behind someday soon.

We can be thankful that Miriam was freed from Sudan.

The Catholic church could really help the members of Islam on this one. They could talk about their own history of infallibly calling for the extermination of heretics - and then point to the idea that today they have grown out of that and into a more civilized form of Christianity.

We can continue to pray for the deliverance of the Christians in Syria and Iraq and Sudan and other Islam controlled countries.

(And we can pray that the Christians in Europe stop declaring the Bible to be myth, false and blind-faith evolutionism to be true, accurate, trustworthy -- because Islam will thrive in that environment and Christianity will just dwindle).

in Christ,

Bob

This isn't about Papal infallibility. It's about hate. It also has zip to do with evolution, or your perceived European bible dissing. It's Muslims (ignorant one's at that), killing Christians because they refuse to convert to a Prophet led movement.
I call them ignorant for a reason. They don't even understand their own faith. They blew up the tomb of Jonah because it was too Christian and too Jewish. I guess they forgot they believe in the story of Jonah too.
Sorry guy, not everything is the See of Rome's fault.