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How many books on creationism have you read?

How many books on creationism have you read?

  • I'm an evolutionist and I've read 0-5 books

  • I'm an evolutionist and I've read 6-10 books

  • I'm an evolutionist and I've read 11+ books

  • I'm a creationist and I've read 0-5 books

  • I'm a creationist and I've read 6-10 books

  • I'm a creationist and I've read 11+ books


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The title is a little confusing. Are we talking about creationist books, or books about creationism? Also, do you consider Intelligent Design a flavour of creationism? (I do)

Of the former I've probably read 10-15 and started probably at least a dozen more before giving up (I don't think I've ever been able to finish anything by William Lane Craig or Lee Strobel, for instance). The ones I can remember finishing are

Whitcomb/Morris The Genesis Flood
Davis Darwin on Trial
Werner The Grand Experiment
Denton Evolution: A Theory in Crisis and Evolution: A Theory Still in Crisis
Behe Intelligent Design and Darwin's Black Box

Behe was a s l o g, and I'll admit to skim-reading large chunks of his books. Something about his writing style just puts me to sleep.

Also, not a "creationist" book so much as an anti-Darwin/anti-evolution tract is Weikart's From Darwin To Hitler. Speaking as someone with a Masters in history and wide reading in modern German history (particularly pre WW1 and Weimar period), I don't think I've ever had a book raise my blood pressure quite as much as that one. It's an extended is-ought fallacy, rife with weird historical revisionism.

Plus, I read a bunch of the biblical minimalist/maximalist books while at university (more than 25 years ago now). And, prior to that I went through a period of reading the more esoteric alternative history/creationist/conspiracy theory books, like Chariots of the Gods, Worlds in Collision and Forbidden Archaeology.

On the anti-side, I tend to read more generalised explainers for the purpose of my own education.

Shubin Your Inner Fish
Coyne Why Evolution is True
Dawkins The Greatest Show on Earth
Dennett Darwin's Dangerous Idea
Greene The Fabric of the Cosmos
Hawking A Brief History of Time
Sagan The Demon Haunted World

I've been meaning to read Khun's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, Nicholl's The Death of Expertise and Almécija's Humans.

@Ophiolite , @Gene2memE, it seems we've floated along in similar streams of study.

This sort of comparison is always interesting because despite that we've read and studied similarly, we've ended up at different places.
 
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The title is a little confusing. Are we talking about creationist books, or books about creationism? Also, do you consider Intelligent Design a flavour of creationism? (I do)
I like a good technicality and anti-creationist books are books on creationism. I haven't voted, because I reject the term "evolutionist" as an appropriate label for me as I am not a biologist.
Of the former I've probably read 10-15 and started probably at least a dozen more before giving up (I don't think I've ever been able to finish anything by William Lane Craig or Lee Strobel, for instance).

I can't imagine that they are? Their oral presentations are a bit much as it is.
The ones I can remember finishing are

Whitcomb/Morris The Genesis Flood
Davis Darwin on Trial
Werner The Grand Experiment
Denton Evolution: A Theory in Crisis and Evolution: A Theory Still in Crisis
Behe Intelligent Design and Darwin's Black Box
Never even tried to start any of them. Not sure what the point of reading a book of anti-science, counter-factual polemics and falsehoods would be as I am not reviewing them or planning a counter-text.
Behe was a s l o g, and I'll admit to skim-reading large chunks of his books. Something about his writing style just puts me to sleep.
:laughing:
Also, not a "creationist" book so much as an anti-Darwin/anti-evolution tract is Weikart's From Darwin To Hitler. Speaking as someone with a Masters in history and wide reading in modern German history (particularly pre WW1 and Weimar period), I don't think I've ever had a book raise my blood pressure quite as much as that one. It's an extended is-ought fallacy, rife with weird historical revisionism.
An excellent reason to not read it (or any of the texts above).
Plus, I read a bunch of the biblical minimalist/maximalist books while at university (more than 25 years ago now). And, prior to that I went through a period of reading the more esoteric alternative history/creationist/conspiracy theory books, like Chariots of the Gods, Worlds in Collision and Forbidden Archaeology.
I also haven't read these either. I think I read some bits of some pulp conspiracy stuff in the 80s, but nothing memorable. (I have some notion of reading a book about the JFK/MLK assassinations once in HS.) I will note how much of this nonsense has penetrated the popular culture and reaches us whether we want it or not.
On the anti-side, I tend to read more generalised explainers for the purpose of my own education.
I've been meaning to collect a list, but my books are a bit scattered about, so I won't remember some of the less well known anti-creationist works I have.
Shubin Your Inner Fish
Coyne Why Evolution is True
Yep, both are good books as well.
Dawkins The Greatest Show on Earth
I gave Dawkins one more chance after "the god delusion" with "ancestor's tale", but that book was tedious and included an unnecessary political crack against my country that I refused to forgive.
Dennett Darwin's Dangerous Idea
Greene The Fabric of the Cosmos
Haven't read either of these.
Hawking A Brief History of Time
Is that even cover creationism? I haven't read it in 30+ years.
Sagan The Demon Haunted World
This one I finally read about 10 years ago, an excellent, but depressing book.

I think I shall collect my list soon.
I've been meaning to read Khun's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, Nicholl's The Death of Expertise and Almécija's Humans.
 
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Is that even cover creationism? I haven't read it in 30+ years.

Given that is provides a reasonably fullsome explanation of the Big Bang and the development of the universe up to the present, I'd say it's implicitly anti-creationist, rather than explicitly so. Greene's The Fabric of the Cosmos is in a similar category (although it's more detailed than Hawking's, and a little more open-ended). Both repudiate any literalist biblical interpretations.
 
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