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How many are saved?

Discussion in 'Exploring Christianity' started by JohnClay, Jan 13, 2020.

  1. JohnClay

    JohnClay Newbie Supporter

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    Matthew 7:13-14
    Apparently there are 2.4 billion Christians in the world. Based on those verses I get the impression that maybe 5% (of 7 billion) are saved... which is 400 million...

    Though most Christians might be assuming that they're saved...
     
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  2. TzephanYahu

    TzephanYahu New Member

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    Yes, not as many as most think, and probably not as many as many Christians think.

    Many will be in for a shock and some will be in for a surprise.

    A lesson to not follow the mainstream or the masses! Sometimes they are right, but most times they are wrong.

    Love & Shalom
     
  3. Dave-W

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    Bishop Joseph Garlington (from Promise Keepers) once said that a teacher in his home congregation growing up said only 7 or 8 people from all of time and eternity would be saved.
     
  4. A_Thinker

    A_Thinker Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Note that even 2.4 billion ... is a minority of a world population of 7 billion.

    Christ Himself had, at least 12 (minus Judas, but plus Paul).

    There were 50 in the upper room when the Holy Spirit came.

    Peter's sermon in Acts converted 3,000.

    Christianity spread from Jerusalem ... into Asia, Europe, and Africa.

    Revelations speaks of a great crowd that no man can number ... who stand around the Throne of God, having their garments washed in the blood of the Lamb ...

    Revelations 7

    9 After this I looked, and there was a great crowd that no one could number. They were from every nation, tribe, people, and language. They were standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They wore white robes and held palm branches in their hands. 10 They cried out with a loud voice:

    “Victory belongs to our God
    who sits on the throne,
    and to the Lamb.”

    11 All the angels stood in a circle around the throne, and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell face down before the throne and worshipped God, 12 saying,

    “Amen! Blessing and glory
    and wisdom and thanksgiving
    and honor and power and might
    be to our God forever and always. Amen.”

    13 Then one of the elders said to me, “Who are these people wearing white robes, and where did they come from?”

    14 I said to him, “Sir, you know.”

    Then he said to me, “These people have come out of great hardship. They have washed their robes and made them white in the Lamb’s blood. 15 This is the reason they are before God’s throne. They worship him day and night in his temple, and the one seated on the throne will shelter them. 16 They won’t hunger or thirst anymore. No sun or scorching heat will beat down on them, 17 because the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them. He will lead them to the springs of life-giving water, and God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”
     
  5. Mountainmanbob

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    Wide road going Down could be
    4 lanes going down

    Narrow road
    1 lane going up

    ????????????
    M-Bob
     
  6. JohnClay

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    That's 30%... I guess it is possible to argue that that is "only a few".
     
  7. HTacianas

    HTacianas Well-Known Member

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    Zec 13:9

    I will bring the one-third through the fire,
    Will refine them as silver is refined,
    And test them as gold is tested.
    They will call on My name,
    And I will answer them.
    I will say, ‘This is My people';
    And each one will say, ‘The LORD is my God.' ”
     
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  8. Mountainmanbob

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    That ( could) be an indicator?
    Would need deeper study.
    M-Bob
     
  9. Danthemailman

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    I once heard someone make the estimate that only 1% of the world's population from all time will be saved, but I think the percentage is higher than that, although if it still turns out to be less than 10% I would not be surprised.
     
  10. HTacianas

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    I've seen this discussion play out a number of times before. As soon as the number gets to one third I spring that on them. :)

    It's as good a guess as anything else.
     
  11. Ken Rank

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    I have thought that it would be a tithe of the world's population... 1/10th of 7 billion. My opinion aside, it will be a number no man can count, so a lot.
     
  12. Mountainmanbob

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    That wouldn't be a narrow road
    would be more like a curb.
    How far can one walk on a curb?

    M-Bob
     
  13. Original Happy Camper

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    This is a rabbit trail thread

    no one knows it is speculation which is a forbidden bible interpretation method

    Proper Biblical interpretation

    Isaiah 28:10
    For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

    Define precept. precept synonyms, precept pronunciation, precept translation, English dictionary definition of precept. n. 1. A rule or principle prescribing a particular course of action or conduct.

    The Scriptures need not be read by the dim light of tradition or human speculation. As well might we try to give light to the sun with a torch as to explain the Scriptures by human tradition or imagination. God's holy word needs not the torchlight glimmer of earth to make its glories distinguishable. It is light in itself—the glory of God revealed, and beside it every other light is dim.

    If it is not in the Bible then it must not be for us to know.
     
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  14. Ayyeliki

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    Matthew 7:13-14
    Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
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    I mostly agree w/OHC above. With all due respect, the numbers don’t matter.
    The spirit of the passage is :
    Less humans will enter than humans who will not . By “our” choice, even, as the word “find” implies.
     
  15. Aussie Pete

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    You'd be surprised. I've been to meetings where an evangelist was preaching and asked the congregation how many were sure they were going to heaven. Not many were sure. The evangelist in one place was asked why he preached in churches (Pentecostal btw). He replied that it was the easiest way to get 300 unbelievers in one place. Aussie churches are not usually as big as the US, 300 is a lot of people.

    5% is a figure that I've heard from a number of sources, surveys and a remark from Billy Graham. I think it's close to the mark.
     
  16. Hazelelponi

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    "If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person's work. If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved--even though only as one escaping through the flames." 1 Corinthians 3:12-15

    Of those who are Christian, some will have works that are worthy of reward, others won't but will still be saved.

    There will be some professed Christians that are outside salvation but I wouldn't want to suppose at their number. The line of thinking, which I have before wondered, seems to always end in the thought that such things are God's domain and not my own.
     
  17. pdudgeon

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    By the time we get all the way through Revelations, and the creation of a new Heaven and a new Earth, the population will be enough to fit comfortably.
     
  18. A_Thinker

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    Certainly in line with the Pharisees and Judaizers ...
     
  19. A_Thinker

    A_Thinker Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Good point ...
     
  20. Danthemailman

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    What are you talking about? Salvation through faith in Jesus Christ is the narrow road. Do you realize how many "professing" Christians trust in works (at least in part) for salvation and how many false religions and cults there are in the world? Those who truly trust in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of their salvation are few in number indeed.
     
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