How is one to understand this passage?

[ArmyMatt]

I read this a few days ago and it seems to align with what you are saying here regarding “dead ends.”

what book is that?

 

[ArmyMatt]

We have free will. The Blessed Theotokos said YES to God. She could've said NO. She said YES. Did God already know she would? Absolutely.

and not only that, but even though He knew she would have said yes no matter what, God still waited for her consent.

 

[SingularityOne]

what book is that?

The red one about anxiety!

 

[ArmyMatt]

The red one about anxiety!

very nice! how is it?

 

[SingularityOne]

very nice! how is it?

Extremely good. He really knows how to baptize psychology into the mind of the Church. Here’s, the table of contents and my favorite section from it:

 

[ArmyMatt]

Extremely good. He really knows how to baptize psychology into the mind of the Church. Here’s, the table of contents and my favorite section from it:

very nice

 

[ArmyMatt]

Extremely good. He really knows how to baptize psychology into the mind of the Church. Here’s, the table of contents and my favorite section from it:

anything specific stand out (aside from what you already shared)?

 

[SingularityOne]

anything specific stand out (aside from what you already shared)?

There were areas that stuck out to me! Super helpful. However, the only part I didn’t understand was the humility being “concrete.” What do you think about that and what he may be trying to express there?

 

[ArmyMatt]

There were areas that stuck out to me! Super helpful. However, the only part I didn’t understand was the humility being “concrete.” What do you think about that and what he may be trying to express there?

not sure, that’s interesting

 

[SingularityOne]

not sure, that’s interesting

I thought so too!

 

[ArmyMatt]

I thought so too!

indeed, might need to chew on that.

 

[SingularityOne]

indeed, might need to chew on that.

Same here. I wonder if the concrete is our acceptance of ourselves as sinners in vulnerability instead of trying to hide things in shame/guilt. But, I could be wrong.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Same here. I wonder if the concrete is our acceptance of ourselves as sinners in vulnerability instead of trying to hide things in shame/guilt. But, I could be wrong.

dunno, but that sounds good.

 

[SingularityOne]

I read this last night and have been pondering it. It seemed to go along with this thread and was wondering what y’all’s thoughts were on it? It seems that worry should be eradicated regarding spouses if one is to accept this passage as the truth and one should just focus on prayer and being open to God’s gifts along the path of this life as we grow closer to Him. Trust is a hard virtue to develop…

 

[ArmyMatt]

I read this last night and have been pondering it. It seemed to go along with this thread and was wondering what y’all’s thoughts were on it? It seems that worry should be eradicated regarding spouses if one is to accept this passage as the truth and one should just focus on prayer and being open to God’s gifts along the path of this life as we grow closer to Him. Trust is a hard virtue to develop…

true, but it also says to talk to qualified people who can help keep our eyes open.

 

[SingularityOne]

true, but it also says to talk to qualified people who can help keep our eyes open.

True. Why do you think he says that along with everything else?

 

[ArmyMatt]

True. Why do you think he says that along with everything else?

because we’re fallen and need each other.

 

[SingularityOne]

because we’re fallen and need each other.

Oh, I agree. After re-reading it I see that he is talking about within a marriage for that portion and not necessarily for guidance before.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Oh, I agree. After re-reading it I see that he is talking about within a marriage for that portion and not necessarily for guidance before.

gotcha

 

[Mark Quayle]

gotcha

Nevertheless, the view of others before, is well taken into account. Trust me on this, lol! Many times I wished I had listened. But God had his own plans! and I had a lot to learn.