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How Fauci Fooled America

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Why should it be either wing?
Because science is not perfectly unbiased, that's a goal, not a reality of it at present, given the tendency of pundit groups to pay for "studies" that sound scientific, yet only serve to "prove" some preconception they want to confirm to the addlebrained masses they pander to
 
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But people have and are following basic common sense and distancing and wearing masks right now. I see it every day and since I am fortunate enough to live in a rational state instead of a lockdown crazy state, there ARE NO mandates. About 2/3 are wearing them indoors and keeping distance. And our rates are low.

The misinformation has been spread from the top, pretending that natural immunity never existed, in order to move the product.
Do you know for a fact there are no mandates or are you just selectively hearing things? Even if there wasn't a state wide mandate, that doesn't mean squat with private businesses. It's not either/or, the mandates are meant to be temporary in nature, not some long term thing like you seem to insinuate here

The rates are low because people are doing something reasonable. That doesn't mean that is the case everywhere even with a similar set of circumstances, you're extrapolating from your anecdotal context and assuming that no mandates= lower cases when I seriously doubt that bears out in the numbers

Natural immunity is not a guarantee with a novel virus and evolution thereof, you act like our immune systems can never be the actual cause of our deaths, like they aren't essentially biomechanical and not working on human nuance. No, they can induce fever, dysentery, cytokine storm, all under a pretense that they are protecting us. Thing is, they don't have an excuse, the immune system is a microcosm of nature in a way and unlike humans, there isn't some guided aspect, just basic protocols they follow at best.
 
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So perhaps it is time to look beyond the divisive nonsense to see what has really been happening in the world compliments of a pandemic?
Yeah, that capitalist system sure "helped" didn't it?
 
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Are you denying that Fauci said not to wear masks? Because that was the comment made and you deflected to this.
The comment made in an early stage, something you seem to want to ignore to just say, "See, I told you," while insulting our intelligence and myopically focusing on that aspect instead of WHY he said it and that he changed his mind with new evidence (because that's science)
 
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If it's credible meta-analysis of scientific studies of covid interventions, it shouldn't be either. That's my point. The source site is pure politics (and bigotry) of a rather paranoid style.

The owner of the site (Dr. something or other) has a Ed.D. and is not an expert of any kind on medicine, epidemiology, or statistical analysis. The author of the post (Pam Geller) is also not any of those things either. She rose to "fame" opposing the "Ground Zero Mosque", which was neither at Ground Zero, nor a mosque.

At least "America's Frontline Doctors" have the decency to be practicing physicians while peddling their covid misinformation and paranoia.
Wow that mosque reference takes me back to a time when I was doing blog posts 2x a month or so on current events and that came up. So needlessly reactionary and rooted in xenophobic prejudices
 
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Ooo...I don't htink that is an American thing. That is a ignorance thing as most people, I think, don't actually know how much they DON'T know but, as you say, they know enough buzzwords to think they know
When America presents itself as the savior of the free world and postures with so much narcissistic hyperbole and egomania, it seems far more notable, even if it might thankfully be a smaller number versus people tricked in small ways and then realizing they need to be more careful to not send their money to a Nigerian prince or take this deal that's too good to be true
 
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Has that been ascertained by fact or comes compliments of a carefully controlled narrative?

The misinformation and paranoia? Well, here's some info on one of 'America's Frontline Doctors', Stella Emmanuel:

'She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches. She alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious. And, despite appearing in Washington, D.C. to lobby Congress on Monday, she has said that the government is run in part not by humans but by “reptilians” and other aliens.' Trump’s New COVID Doctor Says Sex With Demons Makes You Sick

You be the judge.
 
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Has that been ascertained by fact or comes compliments of a carefully controlled narrative?

It can be ascertained by examining the other posts available on the site. Just the newest ones will do. As for Ms. Geller, I know who she is -- a well known anti-Muslim bigot.
 
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Hence spending 40 yrs in the White House controlling the narrative?
As if the narrative has always stuck leaning just right or just left, you're hopelessly naive if you think it was that simple. And the narrative could only be controlled so much in the 80s versus now with the advancement of social media as a means, let's not kid ourselves into thinking things were the same as they were a generation ago
 
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Sounds like she has personal insight to Clinton home life lol Funny how the elites are considered to be reptilian and deviants.
In a conspiracy theory, which you want to just act like it's equally valid even with no real evidence, just specious grasping at straws and delusions rooted in superstitions and desperation at a world regarding faith as increasingly useless.
 
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Helped themselves... record breaking profits.
And you think that's okay as long as we can spin it as a win rather than considering how income inequality is still a growing issue, particularly with stress in regards to medical debt and the like (a problem long before the current ongoing pandemic)? Glad to know you're on the side of profiteers and conglomerates and not the people...except when it can make you seem magnanimous, of course. Then you're all about the grassroots, right?
 
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They were for Fauci which is who i was referring to.
Because everyone totally knew about him 40 years ago. You're pinning this all on one person, which is hopelessly naive yet again, as if your conspiracy wouldn't have had to involve several more people who you seem to be mum about. Or just can't name period
 
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You're assumptions are about 180 degrees off.
Sorry my sarcasm doesn't convey here, but you're not helping your case by talking about record profits with no specificity to them.

Or considering that even if you can talk about things like the unemployment rate (which is an unreliable number in terms of what it actually describes in the technical definition used for measuring those that fit it) or improvements in job numbers (as if those jobs can't easily be shifted elsewhere or be rendered useless, or even just be so mindless you might as well just put human husks in their place and they could accomplish the same ends, ala capitalist greed), it doesn't mean you're going to convince people just like that, if at all, given that people aren't so easily swayed merely because you can spin the numbers. Because while the numbers themselves don't lie, how people present them can very much be deceptive in meaning
 
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Sounds like she has personal insight to Clinton home life lol Funny how the elites are considered to be reptilian and deviants.
My mother always said that when you seek to point out asinine accusations in another, ... four fingers are always pointing back at you ...
 
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