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Salsa_1960
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We are told to obey the Lord. I'm not disputing that.
Romans 2:7-15
7To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. 9There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; 10but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. 11For God does not show favoritism.
12All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them).
The Laws were more than the 10 Commandments. Circumcision was a practiced by the Jews but not the Gentiles. It was part of the law but not felt to be necessary for the Gentiles to practice in order to become Christians: 7To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. 9There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; 10but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. 11For God does not show favoritism.
12All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them).
Romans 2:17-29
17Now you, if you call yourself a Jew; if you rely on the law and brag about your relationship to God; 18if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law; 19if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark, 20an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants, because you have in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth-- 21you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? 22You who say that people should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? 23You who brag about the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? 24As it is written: "God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you."
25Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. 26If those who are not circumcised keep the law's requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? 27The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.
28A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.
There was a problems, perhaps even a jealousy, between the Jews and the Gentiles. The crux of the argument was whether the Gentiles needed to follow the law of the Hebrew/of Moses in order to be saved. Again, circumcision was a large part of this. Were the Jews more righteous than the Gentiles because they were circumcized? 17Now you, if you call yourself a Jew; if you rely on the law and brag about your relationship to God; 18if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law; 19if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark, 20an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants, because you have in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth-- 21you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? 22You who say that people should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? 23You who brag about the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? 24As it is written: "God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you."
25Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. 26If those who are not circumcised keep the law's requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? 27The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.
28A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.
Romans 2:1-8
1What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? 2Much in every way! First of all, they have been entrusted with the very words of God.
3What if some did not have faith? Will their lack of faith nullify God's faithfulness? 4Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written:
"So that you may be proved right when you speak
and prevail when you judge."
5But if our unrighteousness brings out God's righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.) 6Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? 7Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?" 8Why not say--as we are being slanderously reported as saying and as some claim that we say--"Let us do evil that good may result"? Their condemnation is deserved.
Paul answers that no-one is righteous in God's sight by observing the law. We simply aren't capable. At the same time, he points out that the purpose of the law is to make us aware of of "conscious of" our sin/s. 1What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? 2Much in every way! First of all, they have been entrusted with the very words of God.
3What if some did not have faith? Will their lack of faith nullify God's faithfulness? 4Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written:
"So that you may be proved right when you speak
and prevail when you judge."
5But if our unrighteousness brings out God's righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.) 6Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? 7Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?" 8Why not say--as we are being slanderously reported as saying and as some claim that we say--"Let us do evil that good may result"? Their condemnation is deserved.
Romans 2:9-19
9What shall we conclude then? Are we any better ? Not at all! We have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under sin. 10As it is written:
"There is no one righteous, not even one;
11there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
12All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one."
13"Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit."
"The poison of vipers is on their lips."
14"Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness."
15"Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16ruin and misery mark their ways,
17and the way of peace they do not know."
18"There is no fear of God before their eyes."
19Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.
Though we are incapable of being righteous on our own because of our sin (verse 23), we can be made righteous through our faith Christ-- who lived a life without sin, (verse 22). Must the Gentiles live by the law to be saved. (Remember that this is going back to the debate of circumcision). The answer is in verse 28. No. Man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. Does this mean that the law no longer has any meaning? Ofcourse not, it has a purpose. It shows us our sin and how much more we are in need of Christ's grace, (verses 24 & 31). 9What shall we conclude then? Are we any better ? Not at all! We have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under sin. 10As it is written:
"There is no one righteous, not even one;
11there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
12All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one."
13"Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit."
"The poison of vipers is on their lips."
14"Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness."
15"Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16ruin and misery mark their ways,
17and the way of peace they do not know."
18"There is no fear of God before their eyes."
19Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.
Romans 2:21-31
21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished-- 26he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
27Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith. 28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. 29Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished-- 26he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
27Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith. 28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. 29Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
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TheOriginalWhitehorse
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Blissman said:
Yes, but God was talking about items of worship. The first four commandments deal with His supremacy.
Is that the reason? Knowing Islam, I don't think that's the problem! I think it's the fact that "David" is not in a position to be gazed upon. I personally also feel that statue is sacreligious, because the very presentation is not one that would please God. (I'll assume you undeerstand why.)
But if Jesus said no one comes to the Father except by Him, and if God forbade worship of false Gods, this would create an inconsistency. You can't believe in that both God and the gods He hates lead to the same place. It is a logical impossibility.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Can you explain?
Okay. THere's a distinction that needs to be made. We still keep the law, but here's the distinction: our keeping it cannot save us. And that's what these people were trying to do. They were trying to be saved by their own works. It cannot be done.
This doesn't mean we don't keep God's commandments, for Jesus said many times that if we love Him we will do so.
But it can't save us. Only His blood can do that.
Romans 3 *
3:28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
3:29Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
3:30Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
3:31Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Emphasis mine.
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TheOriginalWhitehorse
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Blissman said:
It doesn't amtter if we do all the time or not, because even our best of works are tainted with sin.
Moreover, God is perfectly holy and cannot tolerate any sin. If we break the law even once, we are lawbreakers. As it is written:
James 2
2:10For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
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TheOriginalWhitehorse
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Blissman said:
God wants man to respectfully seek Him. If they are seeking the truth, that is one thing. Calling God into account-that is something else.
II Timothy
3:16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
As for changes, there are many copies of manuscripts. If there is an error, it will be known because it will be different from the rest.
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Salsa_1960
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Blissman,
To give you an idea how carefully the Bible has been copied throughout the years:
To give you an idea how carefully the Bible has been copied throughout the years:
Old Testament transmission
Old Testament texts that aged were considered "blemished," and hence burned or buried. That's why we have so few old texts of the Old Testament.
However, as early as the second century AD, we find the following care given to textual transmission.
An example of the fidelity of transmission can be taken from chapter 53 of the Isaiah scroll. Of 166 words, only 17 letters vary: 10 are misspellings, 4 are added conjunctions, and 3 are the addition of the word "light" at the end of verse 11. None of the 17 letters affects the meaning of the text. This chapter is typical for the whole 5,000 book Qumran library. Thus, after 1000 years' transmission, only one word in 166 is different.
Source:http://www.socc.org/EducationAndWorship/Apolegetics/TheBible.html
Old Testament texts that aged were considered "blemished," and hence burned or buried. That's why we have so few old texts of the Old Testament.
However, as early as the second century AD, we find the following care given to textual transmission.
-the scroll must be written on the skin of clean animals
-the scroll must be written by a Jew
-the scroll must be fastened by thongs taken from the hides of clean animals
-the entire collection must have the same number of rows/page, between 48-60;
-each page must have 30 vertical columns, one letter or space per column per row;
-the pages must be lined before writing the text;
-the black ink must be prepared according to a set recipe;
-the text must be copied from an authentic, exemplar text, the oldest available;
-one word is written at a time; one must look to the exemplar text after each word to verify what was written and what to write next;
-there must be the space of at least one hair between each consonant;
-between each section, there must be a 9 column space;
-between each book, there must be 3 blank rows;
-since the rows and columns were known, the five books of Moses had to terminate at the end of the row;
-the scribe must be wearing kosher dress;
-the scribe must bathe before transcribing;
-name of God must not be written with a pen that has been newly dipped in ink (i.e., but with one full of ink for bold letters);
-should a king address the scribe while he writes the name of God, the scribe should take no notice of him;
-they knew the number of times each letter appeared in each book, and would spot check the text by taking a count;
-they knew the middle word and middle letter of each book, and the middle letter of the entire text, and used these to spot check;
-they numbered the verses, letters, and words of each book.
The result of such care is demonstrated at Qumran. Prior to 1947, the earliest known Masorete fragment was 895 AD. In Qumran, many Masoretic books and fragments were found.-the scroll must be written by a Jew
-the scroll must be fastened by thongs taken from the hides of clean animals
-the entire collection must have the same number of rows/page, between 48-60;
-each page must have 30 vertical columns, one letter or space per column per row;
-the pages must be lined before writing the text;
-the black ink must be prepared according to a set recipe;
-the text must be copied from an authentic, exemplar text, the oldest available;
-one word is written at a time; one must look to the exemplar text after each word to verify what was written and what to write next;
-there must be the space of at least one hair between each consonant;
-between each section, there must be a 9 column space;
-between each book, there must be 3 blank rows;
-since the rows and columns were known, the five books of Moses had to terminate at the end of the row;
-the scribe must be wearing kosher dress;
-the scribe must bathe before transcribing;
-name of God must not be written with a pen that has been newly dipped in ink (i.e., but with one full of ink for bold letters);
-should a king address the scribe while he writes the name of God, the scribe should take no notice of him;
-they knew the number of times each letter appeared in each book, and would spot check the text by taking a count;
-they knew the middle word and middle letter of each book, and the middle letter of the entire text, and used these to spot check;
-they numbered the verses, letters, and words of each book.
An example of the fidelity of transmission can be taken from chapter 53 of the Isaiah scroll. Of 166 words, only 17 letters vary: 10 are misspellings, 4 are added conjunctions, and 3 are the addition of the word "light" at the end of verse 11. None of the 17 letters affects the meaning of the text. This chapter is typical for the whole 5,000 book Qumran library. Thus, after 1000 years' transmission, only one word in 166 is different.
Source:http://www.socc.org/EducationAndWorship/Apolegetics/TheBible.html
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Salsa_1960
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Also, in the New Testament, Matthew, Mark and Luke are referred to as the Synoptic Gospels which means "with [one] eye." That's because they are all so similar. They were also the earliest gospels written (before 70 AD). The gospel of John is a bit different but it was written later (about 90 AD) and the thought is that is that more (or other things) was written in John to fill in details that were left out of earlier gospels. Not that John was telling a different story, but just from a different perspective.
Numerosity of Ancient Manuscripts and Versions
Over five thousand Greek manuscripts of the New Testament in whole or in part are extant today (1). By comparing the manuscript evidence for the Gospels with the evidence for other important ancient writings, we see that the Gospels are uniquely well attested. The work best preserved after the New Testament is Homer's Iliad, represented by 647 manuscripts (2). Many other works rest on a very tenuous foundation. There are only nine or ten copies of Caesar's Gallic War, and none is earlier than A.D. 800 (3). Livy's history is based on only twenty manuscripts, Tacitus's history on only two (4). Of the eight manuscripts of Thucydides' history, only one is earlier than A.D. 500 (5).
In addition, there are many thousands of ancient manuscripts preserving versions of the New Testament in languages other than Greek (6). Among these versions are the Old Latin and Old Syriac (Aramaic), both of which originated well before A.D. 200 (7). Others represented in the manuscripts include the Armenian, Georgian, Coptic, Ethiopic, Arabic, Gothic, and Slavonic (8).
The many manuscripts and versions agree with each other to a remarkable extent. Most variant readings are misspellings or other obvious errors. It has been estimated that doubt attaches to only one word out of a thousand (9), and none of the words in dispute is crucial to deciding any question of history, ethics, or doctrine. The striking consensus among so many ancient manuscripts and versions of the Gospels guarantees that the text transmitted through the ages to us must be substantially the same as the original text. We can be sure, as we read the Gospels, that we have what the authors wrote rather than a text filled with late corruptions, reflecting the thinking and fancy of men who lived long after the time of Jesus.
Source: http://www.themoorings.org/apologetics/Gospels/relia1.html
Over five thousand Greek manuscripts of the New Testament in whole or in part are extant today (1). By comparing the manuscript evidence for the Gospels with the evidence for other important ancient writings, we see that the Gospels are uniquely well attested. The work best preserved after the New Testament is Homer's Iliad, represented by 647 manuscripts (2). Many other works rest on a very tenuous foundation. There are only nine or ten copies of Caesar's Gallic War, and none is earlier than A.D. 800 (3). Livy's history is based on only twenty manuscripts, Tacitus's history on only two (4). Of the eight manuscripts of Thucydides' history, only one is earlier than A.D. 500 (5).
In addition, there are many thousands of ancient manuscripts preserving versions of the New Testament in languages other than Greek (6). Among these versions are the Old Latin and Old Syriac (Aramaic), both of which originated well before A.D. 200 (7). Others represented in the manuscripts include the Armenian, Georgian, Coptic, Ethiopic, Arabic, Gothic, and Slavonic (8).
The many manuscripts and versions agree with each other to a remarkable extent. Most variant readings are misspellings or other obvious errors. It has been estimated that doubt attaches to only one word out of a thousand (9), and none of the words in dispute is crucial to deciding any question of history, ethics, or doctrine. The striking consensus among so many ancient manuscripts and versions of the Gospels guarantees that the text transmitted through the ages to us must be substantially the same as the original text. We can be sure, as we read the Gospels, that we have what the authors wrote rather than a text filled with late corruptions, reflecting the thinking and fancy of men who lived long after the time of Jesus.
Source: http://www.themoorings.org/apologetics/Gospels/relia1.html
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TheOriginalWhitehorse
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Bliss, another important thing to consider is which manuscripts were used in a particular manuscript. Some are older and more reliable than others. Also, the way a text is translated makes a difference. Some used the literal word-for-word translation, such as the KJV. Others translated according to what was meant. The NIV does this moreso, but is still considered quite faithful. I do tend to trust the KJV more, though.
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God decided what is and is not moral when he created us. You might want to start in Genesis and you will know why all do not make it to heaven. God Created Us To Love All Of Us.
There is good and evil in the world, and each individual has to decide for themselves whether or not to accept God and Jesus Christ as their Lord and Personal Savior.
You can not profess to love the Lord and break his commandments, not repent, you can push him away; and if you give up the Holy Spirit which is given to you upon exceping Jesus then you will not enter heaven. Not my word, Gods' Word.
Do you believe there is a hell and Satan?
If you do then you answered your own question. For we have a choice. We are given free will. Many have been warned by God and did not heed and payed a horrific price and the first transgresstion was when Eve was enticed by Satan and ate of the apple as did then Adam; both of their own free will. This marked all of us. Babylon/ Sodom and Gomora, Remember Lot's wife?
Their are also a third of Gods' angels that fell. Because they disobeyed Him and partook in the flesh with human woman. (The Nephilim)
So God Makes the Rules Because He Invented the Game if you will put it that way, but it is far from a game. It means your eternal soul and I prefer to spend eternity with The Lord than to indulge in the world. Been There Done That And Brought Nothing But Misery.
I have always known Jesus in my heart, (we are all born with the knowledge of God, whether we pick up on it or not; again free will). I have known him since I can remember having memories. I would lie in the grass and stare into the sky and say Jesus is up there in the clouds. Teens, I went astray (a carnal Christian), Then Thank God for tapping me on the shoulder and my Spirit awoke a long time ago and the Lord has Bless me and my family abundantely every since. I am the happiest I have ever been in my entire life, and I am permanetly disabled at 40 and have been since I was 30. I did not carry on about it, what I decided to do is carry on the Word of God. I just love Jesus so very much, without Him we would all be walking dead, like a toy with a battery and once the battery dies it dies, only we do not run on batteries we run on the Lord. Praise the Lord Amen!
Well I could go on forever, but I will stop for know on this post and I will post again with The Word of God Speaking, (quote some of the Bible pertaining to what I just posted).
God Bless And May Peace Be With You Always
God decided what is and is not moral when he created us. You might want to start in Genesis and you will know why all do not make it to heaven. God Created Us To Love All Of Us.There is good and evil in the world, and each individual has to decide for themselves whether or not to accept God and Jesus Christ as their Lord and Personal Savior.
You can not profess to love the Lord and break his commandments, not repent, you can push him away; and if you give up the Holy Spirit which is given to you upon exceping Jesus then you will not enter heaven. Not my word, Gods' Word.
Do you believe there is a hell and Satan?
If you do then you answered your own question. For we have a choice. We are given free will. Many have been warned by God and did not heed and payed a horrific price and the first transgresstion was when Eve was enticed by Satan and ate of the apple as did then Adam; both of their own free will. This marked all of us. Babylon/ Sodom and Gomora, Remember Lot's wife?
Their are also a third of Gods' angels that fell. Because they disobeyed Him and partook in the flesh with human woman. (The Nephilim)
So God Makes the Rules Because He Invented the Game if you will put it that way, but it is far from a game. It means your eternal soul and I prefer to spend eternity with The Lord than to indulge in the world. Been There Done That And Brought Nothing But Misery.
I have always known Jesus in my heart, (we are all born with the knowledge of God, whether we pick up on it or not; again free will). I have known him since I can remember having memories. I would lie in the grass and stare into the sky and say Jesus is up there in the clouds. Teens, I went astray (a carnal Christian), Then Thank God for tapping me on the shoulder and my Spirit awoke a long time ago and the Lord has Bless me and my family abundantely every since. I am the happiest I have ever been in my entire life, and I am permanetly disabled at 40 and have been since I was 30. I did not carry on about it, what I decided to do is carry on the Word of God. I just love Jesus so very much, without Him we would all be walking dead, like a toy with a battery and once the battery dies it dies, only we do not run on batteries we run on the Lord. Praise the Lord Amen!
Well I could go on forever, but I will stop for know on this post and I will post again with The Word of God Speaking, (quote some of the Bible pertaining to what I just posted).
God Bless And May Peace Be With You Always
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whitehorse, I just wanted to say that I also prefer the KJV. I have the same Bible since I was 8. I have acquired a few more since, but I read daily out of my old faithful
Now for just a thought that came to mind to write:
It is really amazing when I find something of that age that I had underlined or [], I am know I understand the teaching so much better.
Are we not Blessed to have such a Patient Heavenly Father? I know I am.
If you were to be charged now to parent the world, how much patience do you think you would have?
When we are little we still have grow into the Word, and be in the Word, when you begin to understand the Word, then you are becoming older, but still babes; especially to the Lord. I went through that, then I was a carnal Christian (someone who believes in Jesus, but does not fully understand, has not fully accepted Him into our hearts as far as to keep His Commandments, or in his word, but you know he is there and you know when you are not doing things that would be pleasing to God.) I am very elated to be where I am know, older, definetly wiser, and since long ago I fully commited myself to the Lord; He began to Bless me more abundantely than I could have ever imagined. ALSO "Never underestimate the power of prayer", no matter how lost you may think you are, God is a loving God and wishes for all His Children to come home!
We are all born sinners, that is the inheritance that Adam and Eve left us, but "God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son". Thank God for Jesus Christ. For without his that is probably all we would know by now is Evil. For Satan and his dominions, and many antichrists walk amongst us, they did do in the day of our Lord also and Satan has certainly run amuck.
But Never Fear John 14:1 LET not your heart be troubled: ye blieve in God, lelieve also in me.
John 14:2 "In my Father's houe are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you".
John 14:3 "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also".
John 14:4 "And wither I go ye know, and the way ye know".
John 14:5 Thomas saith unto him, "Lord, we know not wither thou goest; and how can be know the way?"
John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him,"I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me".
Now for just a thought that came to mind to write:
It is really amazing when I find something of that age that I had underlined or [], I am know I understand the teaching so much better.
Are we not Blessed to have such a Patient Heavenly Father? I know I am.
If you were to be charged now to parent the world, how much patience do you think you would have?
When we are little we still have grow into the Word, and be in the Word, when you begin to understand the Word, then you are becoming older, but still babes; especially to the Lord. I went through that, then I was a carnal Christian (someone who believes in Jesus, but does not fully understand, has not fully accepted Him into our hearts as far as to keep His Commandments, or in his word, but you know he is there and you know when you are not doing things that would be pleasing to God.) I am very elated to be where I am know, older, definetly wiser, and since long ago I fully commited myself to the Lord; He began to Bless me more abundantely than I could have ever imagined. ALSO "Never underestimate the power of prayer", no matter how lost you may think you are, God is a loving God and wishes for all His Children to come home!
We are all born sinners, that is the inheritance that Adam and Eve left us, but "God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son". Thank God for Jesus Christ. For without his that is probably all we would know by now is Evil. For Satan and his dominions, and many antichrists walk amongst us, they did do in the day of our Lord also and Satan has certainly run amuck.
But Never Fear John 14:1 LET not your heart be troubled: ye blieve in God, lelieve also in me.
John 14:2 "In my Father's houe are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you".
John 14:3 "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also".
John 14:4 "And wither I go ye know, and the way ye know".
John 14:5 Thomas saith unto him, "Lord, we know not wither thou goest; and how can be know the way?"
John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him,"I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me".
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TheOriginalWhitehorse
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casper40 said:
That is awesome! I still have my second Bible, but I don't know where my first one is. It was a paperback. But my favorite was the one I got in college-my first study Bible. filled with notes, highlightings, comments...and it got misplaced in a move.
The one I have now is bonded leather and is losing pieces of leather in the pew. My best friend bought me a new one last year, but I hardly use it because I like my beat-up one will all my scrawlings in it. It's like that with Bibles, isn't it? And eternal journey recorded on tattered, dog-eared paper. Something very poignant about that.Yes-very sweet, isn't it? Watching those moments of inspiration and growth, and sometimes rediscovering old things long forgotten. Yes-God is so patient and kind.
I would resign immediately.
Amen. Without God, there would be no good. It's amazing to see how God takes everything satan does and turns it around for good; to tsee how God uses what satan meant for evil, and turn it around for the profit of God's Kingdom and the glory of His name. satan truly, truly cannot win.
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