How do you rid yourself of temptation?

[aiki]

You make it seem easy when in fact it is not. Jesus said the right way was narrow and hard.

So, was Jesus lying when he said,

Matthew 11:28-30
28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." ?

The way to life is narrow and difficult, Jesus said. What life was Jesus talking about?

John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

So, the way to life, that is, to Jesus, is narrow and difficult. The Rich Young Ruler demonstrates why (Lu. 18:18-27). But once you've found the life, once you've made Jesus your own Saviour and Lord, you should enter a life of rest in him, not turmoil and strain.

If it was easy then it would be no issue for us sinners and people who are tempted day in, day out!

As I've explained pretty clearly to you from Scripture, your struggle with temptation is a reflection of your lack of understanding about your own faith, and a lack of full surrender to God. Where sin is there is always a lack of submission to God. The two things, sin and surrender to God, are opposites, you see. If you're fully surrendered to God, you aren't sinning; and if you're sinning, you aren't fully surrendered to God.

Anyway, you can "lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink." If you're determined to live a life of failure and struggle, I can't stop you. But you have heard now a better way and God holds you accountable for what you do with what I've told you. Accept or reject it. It's entirely up to you.

Selah.

 

[stuart lawrence]

So, was Jesus lying when he said,

Matthew 11:28-30
28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." ?

The way to life is narrow and difficult, Jesus said. What life was Jesus talking about?

John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

So, the way to life, that is, to Jesus, is narrow and difficult. The Rich Young Ruler demonstrates why (Lu. 18:18-27). But once you've found the life, once you've made Jesus your own Saviour and Lord, you should enter a life of rest in him, not turmoil and strain.



As I've explained pretty clearly to you from Scripture, your struggle with temptation is a reflection of your lack of understanding about your own faith, and a lack of full surrender to God. Where sin is there is always a lack of submission to God. The two things, sin and surrender to God, are opposites, you see. If you're fully surrendered to God, you aren't sinning; and if you're sinning, you aren't fully surrendered to God.

Anyway, you can "lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink." If you're determined to live a life of failure and struggle, I can't stop you. But you have heard now a better way and God holds you accountable for what you do with what I've told you. Accept or reject it. It's entirely up to you.

Selah.

What makes these sites worthwhile is when you come across someone led of the holy spirit in the truth of the gospel message.
Thank you
Many years ago a woman on another website said:
The two denominations that find it hardest to accept biblical grace ate the two denominations furthest apart doctrinally.
I believe she was right.
Antletems is a member of one of those denominations( I think) and i grew up In the other
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is to persuade most on websites such as these to accept biblical grace/ the true Gospel message
For as Jesus said:
Many after drinking the old wine don't want the new, for they say. The old is better Luke5:39
God bless

 

[stuart lawrence]

So, was Jesus lying when he said,

Matthew 11:28-30
28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." ?

The way to life is narrow and difficult, Jesus said. What life was Jesus talking about?

John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

So, the way to life, that is, to Jesus, is narrow and difficult. The Rich Young Ruler demonstrates why (Lu. 18:18-27). But once you've found the life, once you've made Jesus your own Saviour and Lord, you should enter a life of rest in him, not turmoil and strain.



As I've explained pretty clearly to you from Scripture, your struggle with temptation is a reflection of your lack of understanding about your own faith, and a lack of full surrender to God. Where sin is there is always a lack of submission to God. The two things, sin and surrender to God, are opposites, you see. If you're fully surrendered to God, you aren't sinning; and if you're sinning, you aren't fully surrendered to God.

Anyway, you can "lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink." If you're determined to live a life of failure and struggle, I can't stop you. But you have heard now a better way and God holds you accountable for what you do with what I've told you. Accept or reject it. It's entirely up to you.

Selah.

 

[AllanV]

You make it seem easy when in fact it is not. Jesus said the right way was narrow and hard. Following Jesus is going to be hard and will have crosses put in the way. I accept them.

If it was easy then it would be no issue for us sinners and people who are tempted day in, day out!

I stress a person must break inwardly deeply and then Jesus takes hold and covers with His own nature This cannot be done in own ability and power of self belief because there are attachments in the personality and these must be exposed. It is very much like Peters attempt to walk on water and the Lord caught him.
The Gospel is the good news of The kingdom of God. When the attachments of Satan's Kingdom which are fixtures in the mind are exposed and expelled then the heart can be broken deeply. The nature of Jesus is more gentle and quiet than can be comprehended in the natural mind and heart. God energizes the Love in the heart and it is completely circumcised. This event opens the mind to understanding scriptures to a deeper level.
The mind is so quiet that the natural predatory mind of others cannot penetrate and upset it because it cannot comprehend it. Every so called normal person establishes mind connections and these are severed. This is because it is actually the mind of Christ and Jesus has already won the battle over Satan.

Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.
Psalm 51:17 (KJV)
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

Romans 12:1 (KJV)
12 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

My alter call if it can be called that was at 40 years.

Paul's Prayer for the Ephesians
…18may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God. 20Now to Him who is able to do far more abundantly beyond all that we ask or think, according to the power that works within us,…

This Way to holiness is difficult because the whole self is given up and all the old life must go.
The Spirit leads a transformation in the actual mind. Always moving forward not looking back into the old mind.
This is not for everyone and it could depend on the circumstances in the present life. How own life is constructed and the measure of faith. Faith can increase it comes by hearing the enlivened word.

My hope is that the Spirit is alive in me and when the time comes the Lord returns that I will be taken to be where He is. But He comes for His bride without spot or blemish.

 

[AllanV]

Isaiah 2:7-11
(7) Their land is also full of silver and gold,
And there is no end to their treasures;
Their land is also full of horses,
And there is no end to their chariots.
(8) Their land is also full of idols;
They worship the work of their own hands,
That which their own fingers have made.
(9) People bow down,
And each man humbles himself;
Therefore do not forgive them.
(10) Enter into the rock, and hide in the dust,
From the terror of the LORD
And the glory of His majesty.
(11) The lofty looks of man shall be humbled,
The haughtiness of men shall be bowed down,
And the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.

 

[Goatee]

Guys, you interpret scripture to suit your own needs / beliefs.

Jesus is the only way i know but it aint easy. Look at all the saints that suffered. You make it out that all u need to do is believe and all will be fine and dandy. Its a struggle. Human life is a struggle. One must persevere. Continue to put trust in God.

You just pick a bit of scripture and make of it what suits you. You read it wrongly. You twist it.

You have to have Jesus in your heart. Having Jesus there is still not going to mean all will he hunky dory!

Its a battle to keep satan away! One i am willing to endure for God.

I fall many times but i keep getting up. Jesus came to save sinners. He wants me to fight against sin. He knows i am fragile and weak. Maybe i am not as strong as you guys. Must be awesome being sin free and not bothered by temptations etc etc. You guys are lucky.

 

[stuart lawrence]

Guys, you interpret scripture to suit your own needs / beliefs.

Jesus is the only way i know but it aint easy. Look at all the saints that suffered. You make it out that all u need to do is believe and all will be fine and dandy. Its a struggle. Human life is a struggle. One must persevere. Continue to put trust in God.

You just pick a bit of scripture and make of it what suits you. You read it wrongly. You twist it.

You have to have Jesus in your heart. Having Jesus there is still not going to mean all will he hunky dory!

Its a battle to keep satan away! One i am willing to endure for God.

I fall many times but i keep getting up. Jesus came to save sinners. He wants me to fight against sin. He knows i am fragile and weak. Maybe i am not as strong as you guys. Must be awesome being sin free and not bothered by temptations etc etc. You guys are lucky.

For by one sacrifice he made FOREVER perfect those who are BEING made holy heb10:14

 

[Goatee]

For by one sacrifice he made FOREVER perfect those who are BEING made holy heb10:14

Forever yes but doesnt mean we can sin freely thinking that all is forgiven both now and in the future!!

 

[stuart lawrence]

Forever yes but doesnt mean we can sin freely thinking that all is forgiven both now and in the future!!

No born again christian can freely without conscience sin as much as they like, it ain't possible.
The bible says the christian has a righteousness apart from observing the law
Christ is the end of the law unto righteousness rom 10:4
That is a huge statement, and one sadly most do not comprehend

 

[stuart lawrence]

It seems a lot of christians believe the only way a person can be encouraged to obey God, is if the penalty for sin is as the sword of damocles, ever hovering above them, ready to plunge into their hearts for disobedience
I guess the idea of wanting to obey out of love for God is foreign to most

 

[AllanV]

Guys, you interpret scripture to suit your own needs / beliefs.

Jesus is the only way i know but it aint easy. Look at all the saints that suffered. You make it out that all u need to do is believe and all will be fine and dandy. Its a struggle. Human life is a struggle. One must persevere. Continue to put trust in God.

You just pick a bit of scripture and make of it what suits you. You read it wrongly. You twist it.

You have to have Jesus in your heart. Having Jesus there is still not going to mean all will he hunky dory!

Its a battle to keep satan away! One i am willing to endure for God.

I fall many times but i keep getting up. Jesus came to save sinners. He wants me to fight against sin. He knows i am fragile and weak. Maybe i am not as strong as you guys. Must be awesome being sin free and not bothered by temptations etc etc. You guys are lucky.

As much as anything it depends on who you are associating with.
Jesus related that it is what comes out of the mouth that defiles and this reveals the state of the heart.
Therefore it follows that if the words spoken are truth from God and the heart believes them while spoken a purifying is accomplished. The whole idea then is to believe in God rather than own self with its belief. What stops a person believing in God?

It is very difficult to do because there are too many distractions and comforts therefore there is a case for inducing a desperation of hopelessness. This is all within the mind, but can the old mind with its habits and manner of vocalizing them be given up even for a short time.

If the sought after place of God is found then as an example nearly if not all the followers of this way were hounded and killed.

 

[aiki]

Guys, you interpret scripture to suit your own needs / beliefs.

Jesus is the only way i know but it aint easy. Look at all the saints that suffered. You make it out that all u need to do is believe and all will be fine and dandy. Its a struggle. Human life is a struggle. One must persevere. Continue to put trust in God.

You just pick a bit of scripture and make of it what suits you. You read it wrongly. You twist it.

Can you show us how? How have we twisted and cherry-picked verses?

You have to have Jesus in your heart. Having Jesus there is still not going to mean all will he hunky dory!

Its a battle to keep satan away! One i am willing to endure for God.

But, you see, this isn't what the Bible teaches you ought to do. And because you don't know better, you have been struggling - and failing. This will only continue until you start to live according to the things I've shared with you from Scripture.

I fall many times but i keep getting up. Jesus came to save sinners. He wants me to fight against sin. He knows i am fragile and weak. Maybe i am not as strong as you guys. Must be awesome being sin free and not bothered by temptations etc etc. You guys are lucky.

If God knows you are fragile and weak, why in the world would He expect you to fight against sin? Well, the Bible tells us God doesn't expect us to fight against sin for Him but to let God fight sin for us. You're right: you are fragile and weak. We all are. And this is exactly why fighting against sin ourselves just won't work! You're failure to resist sin ought to have taught you this by now. God intends that He should be your strength in times of temptation. You are to be just a branch in the vine (Jn. 15:5), a vessel fit for the Master's use (2Ti. 2:21), in and out of whom His power flows. And this all happens as you submit yourself entirely to Him. You're too busy trying to show God how strong and faithful you are (and failing miserably) to let God be God in your life. Until this changes and you start relying on God to do what He has promised to do in you, the sin-confession cycle you're in will never stop.

Selah.

 

[Goatee]

You make it sound easy. Its not.

I believe that you are interpreting scripture in your own way to suit your beliefs.

Jesus said the way would be narrow. Life is not meant to be all sweet and easy going. To follow Jesus we have to pick up our crosses and carry them.

God is our strength but we have to do our bit!!

 

[aiki]

Do you think God is so weak He needs your contribution of strength in order to defeat temptation?

You keep saying I'm twisting Scripture to suit my beliefs, but you have yet to demonstrate how.

I don't understand why you're so keen to deny what I'm telling you - especially when you haven't been able to show me that I've got it all wrong. All you've done is cited one verse about the narrow way as though somehow it overrides all other verses. How do you know you aren't just twisting the verse to suit your beliefs?

Selah.

 

[Widlast]

There is a set of "christians" who believe that if your life is not all roses and fun it is because you are not "living according to the Gospel" (as interpreted/distorted by them). Jesus stated quite plainly that there would be problems and persecutions.
The saints have shown this to be abundantly true.

If your life is fun and easy it is because Satan finds you not worth bothering with, he already owns you.

 

[Goatee]

There is a set of "christians" who believe that if your life is not all roses and fun it is because you are not "living according to the Gospel" (as interpreted/distorted by them). Jesus stated quite plainly that there would be problems and persecutions.
The saints have shown this to be abundantly true.

If your life is fun and easy it is because Satan finds you not worth bothering with, he already owns you.

Correct. 100% agree

 

[Goatee]

Do you think God is so weak He needs your contribution of strength in order to defeat temptation?

You keep saying I'm twisting Scripture to suit my beliefs, but you have yet to demonstrate how.

I don't understand why you're so keen to deny what I'm telling you - especially when you haven't been able to show me that I've got it all wrong. All you've done is cited one verse about the narrow way as though somehow it overrides all other verses. How do you know you aren't just twisting the verse to suit your beliefs?

Selah.

Do you think that we can sit back and let God do all the work? Do you think we need do nothing? Do you think we can go on sinning thinking its fine as God is ok about it?

Jesus said the gate is narrow. Do you not understand that the way is hard? We have to bear and carry our crosses. You cannot sit back and expect God to carry us without us doing our bit!

 

[Widlast]

Do you think that we can sit back and let God do all the work? Do you think we need do nothing? Do you think we can go on sinning thinking its fine as God is ok about it?

Jesus said the gate is narrow. Do you not understand that the way is hard? We have to bear and carry our crosses. You cannot sit back and expect God to carry us without us doing our bit!

The Orthodox have a saying "God will grow the crops, but He will not pick them nor put them in your mouth."

 

[stuart lawrence]

Do you think that we can sit back and let God do all the work? Do you think we need do nothing? Do you think we can go on sinning thinking its fine as God is ok about it?

Jesus said the gate is narrow. Do you not understand that the way is hard? We have to bear and carry our crosses. You cannot sit back and expect God to carry us without us doing our bit!

This is the covenant I will make with them after that time says the Lord
I will write my laws in their minds and place them on their hearts
Then he adds
Their sins and lawless deeds I will remember no more
Heb10:16&17

I will assume you understand the new covenant is built on the above foundation.
May I ask you two questions concerning it?
What in your view does it mean for the christian to have the law written on their mind and placed on their heart? What is the result of this happening?
And which of a christians sins will be remembered no more unto condemnation in your view?
The sins committed before they got saved only, or all their sins, past present and future?

 

[AllanV]

This is the covenant I will make with them after that time says the Lord
I will write my laws in their minds and place them on their hearts
Then he adds
Their sins and lawless deeds I will remember no more
Heb10:16&17

I will assume you understand the new covenant is built on the above foundation.
May I ask you two questions concerning it?
What in your view does it mean for the christian to have the law written on their mind and placed on their heart? What is the result of this happening?
And which of a christians sins will be remembered no more unto condemnation in your view?
The sins committed before they got saved only, or all their sins, past present and future?

Two verses have been used out of context. The whole passage needs to be read.
The true blessing is being limited and hidden by your interpretation. Who benefits from this?