There was no new testament when 2 Timothy was written, so it could not have been speaking to books not written yet.
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How do you overcome bitterness toward God?
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Simply Christian,
I appreciate your honesty, I am struggling with bitterness towards God as well. I pretty much feel exactly the way you do although our circumstances are probably different. I would like to know how to overcome it to. I agree with you on Job. I've tried speaking to the mountain, claiming His promises, praying everything I'm at my wits end. At some point disappointment and hope are relative.
I appreciate your honesty, I am struggling with bitterness towards God as well. I pretty much feel exactly the way you do although our circumstances are probably different. I would like to know how to overcome it to. I agree with you on Job. I've tried speaking to the mountain, claiming His promises, praying everything I'm at my wits end. At some point disappointment and hope are relative.
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At some point... you simply need to hold on to faith. Our feelings, our logic, tell us that everything is wrong, that this is not right, it's unfair. But when we trust our faith, when we go by what we know, not by what we feel, but what we know about God, we can let it all go. We counter "this sucks" with "but God knows what He's doing". "I don't understand this" with "God has a plan, I'll trust in that". It doesn't make sense, it hurts, it sucks, life wasn't meant to be like this, but... trust. If we trust that God loves us, that in the end, He only wants the best for us, that He has a plan... then we can let go. We don't have to understand. We can endure the pain. It is only for a season. Or a few seasons. But the end result... oh, it's so beautiful!!!! Beyond anything we can ever imagine. We can believe that. We know that. We hold onto that. It gets us through the hard times. Trust me, I know. I've been there, and I'm there again, in pain, waiting for God to restore, knowing He will.
I know, OP, that there's nothing left for anyone to say to convince you. Maybe it's time to just let go. Walk away. Let God chase you. Let Him surprise you with His love. I know He will.
I know, OP, that there's nothing left for anyone to say to convince you. Maybe it's time to just let go. Walk away. Let God chase you. Let Him surprise you with His love. I know He will.
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You are a purchased possession. God can do with you whatever He feels works to His greater glory. When you realize this and relinquish, the stretching will pass. He is not morbid. He is a loving craftsman.
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2 Timothy is a letter. In fact, the New Testament is a compilation of letters with the exception of the book of Revelation. When looking at the New Testament, there is a need to take into account that when there is a reference to "Scripture", it's in reference to the Old Testament because at the time of the writing of the letters, there was no such thing as the New Testament.
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That makes God sound rather harsh and cruel. I do not subscribe to this religious ideology.
God is not a vain creep in the sky, dictating suffering to feed his own ego. That is not loving or good. Stop spreading lies about God, like I once did.
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Simply Christian: Read again the story of Abraham and then Romans 4. I also submit here a poem:
Take Now Thy Son...
“My Lord God, is that you,
This strange thing must I do;
In taking my dear son unto Moriah,
To have him harshly bound
And flung upon the ground,
A sacrifice consumed with holy fire?”
“Yes friend, that was my voice.
I’m giving you the choice
To render all according to my will.
The child you had from me,
And now I plan to see
If you intend to trust my wisdom still.”
We know the glad outcome,
Young Isaac rescued from
His father’s hand poised high with gleaming blade.
An angel halts the knife:
“Take not the young lad’s life.
Your precious faith in God has been displayed.”
And do we all not yearn
In each our ways to earn
The thrilling blessing of the Lord’s “well done”?
Who knows what test will try
Our mettle bye and bye,
In giving up a treasure, dream or son?
For no delight on earth
May jeopardize the worth
Of growing in the Lord’s love, hour by hour.
Perhaps He may require
That loved thing for the fire,
To give it back in resurrection power.
Take Now Thy Son...
“My Lord God, is that you,
This strange thing must I do;
In taking my dear son unto Moriah,
To have him harshly bound
And flung upon the ground,
A sacrifice consumed with holy fire?”
“Yes friend, that was my voice.
I’m giving you the choice
To render all according to my will.
The child you had from me,
And now I plan to see
If you intend to trust my wisdom still.”
We know the glad outcome,
Young Isaac rescued from
His father’s hand poised high with gleaming blade.
An angel halts the knife:
“Take not the young lad’s life.
Your precious faith in God has been displayed.”
And do we all not yearn
In each our ways to earn
The thrilling blessing of the Lord’s “well done”?
Who knows what test will try
Our mettle bye and bye,
In giving up a treasure, dream or son?
For no delight on earth
May jeopardize the worth
Of growing in the Lord’s love, hour by hour.
Perhaps He may require
That loved thing for the fire,
To give it back in resurrection power.
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I heard a rabbi once say that Abraham failed his test by blindly obeying God's test, whereas earlier, Abraham challenged God in Sodom by asking God to be righteous and spare 50 people. The rabbi's response was that Abraham should have stood up for his son, as he did the strangers in Sodom, and God would have been pleased with him. It's an interesting idea, if nothing else.
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Let me ask you this. Do you have a right to be bitter with God? Are you greater than He? Is your thinking and standards for goodness greater than His. Can someone be angry with God? Does one have the right. Is their justice greater than His. I read in one forum that you stated you have to forgive God? What gives you the right to think this? God has sinned against you? I am not trying to be harsh but these are questions that I have to ask. The way you talk you make it sound like you are greater than God and he has to answer to you?
If you were like the rest of humanity that ever was and ever will be, then you sinned against a Holy God. What you deserve like the rest of us is to be ground to dust and cast into the lake of fire for eternity for sinning against a Holy God. We deserve only God's full unhindered wrath for our sins. This is where Jesus came in. He stepped in our stead and took upon himself the full wrath of God so that God's wrath and the Law would be satisfied. His love for us and grace for us stepped in and saved us. Now we can have a relationship with him. But if you even think God has to answer to you and you need to forgive him, I am sorry but you are very much in the wrong.
In the old testament God did many things because because people were rebellious to God and sinned against him. He had a right for judgment to come. Their was no mediator between man and God, their was no forgiveness of sin, only a covering for sin with the tribe of Israel, and their sacrifices that was a shadow of the things to come.
I don't know why you are bitter or why you are mad at God, but there should be no reason. Your anger and bitterness are misplaced. Sin is what causes misery in this world and every one has free choice. We live in a sinful world. God is only good. And because he is good he must punish evil with all His might or he would not be good. This is the exact reason why Jesus went to the cross. Sin had to be punished because God is a God of love. He must hate because he loves.
An example of this is, if a man killed your friend and stood before the judge and said to the judge, hey judge I know you, you are a judge who loves. Please forgive me. And if the judge said okay you would think the Judge to be evil because he forgave. We do not have forgiveness of sin just because we ask and turn away from sin, but because the Punishment for the sin has already been paid for and that is why God can forgive. If Jesus would have never went to the cross their would be no forgiveness for sin because we would pay for it with our own souls for eternity.
Our goodness means nothing to God and are like filthy rags. we can not overcome our sin by doing good. Just like in the above scenario with the guy killing your friend, if he went before the judge and listed all the good he ever did in his life, it would amount to nothing because his so called good deeds can not cancel out transgression against the law. The judge would say i don't care you killed a man you will be punished.
I hope this helps you in a way and please understand I am in no way talking down to you or in a hurtful manner. I can not convey my heart towards your question with only typing. May you have a great day and God bless.
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Instead of being bitter at God remember that He gave everything so that we would want for nothing.
Our enemy is not God , nor is it the Catholics, but rather the defeated devil who wants to blind our eyes to the victory that we can rightfully claim.
Our enemy is not God , nor is it the Catholics, but rather the defeated devil who wants to blind our eyes to the victory that we can rightfully claim.
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REPHAIAHPEDAHEL
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Receive God's grace!
Hebrews 12:15 NASB
See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;
Hebrews 12:15 NASB
See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;
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Understanding. Often times bitterness towards anything deemed to be good, is due to a misunderstanding. It really boils down to knowing and really knowing that thing that is misunderstood. and if it is really good, then it will contrast what you formally thought and change your perspective on it. I was bitter towards God a while. And I just to a much more critical approach to what is to be understood about God and it took a long time but it changed my outlook.
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