How do you feel about tithing?

[topher694]

I too, didn't think it was in the NT. Maybe it is there with different wording.

*sigh* alright

Matthew 22:21 - And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

What is Jesus talking about? Money.

Who is he talking to? Pharisees.

What would they (and everyone else) have understood giving to God "the things that are God's"? The tithe.

So, bring on the objections, I'm not interested in responding to them. But I will add this, if you think this is vague and open to interpretation, fine. I think Jesus did it that way on purpose.

 

[nanookadenord]

"Requirement"- no.

But then I would hope that all Christians do other good and useful things that are not "required" for them to do.

I'm an EMT and routinely go beyond what my job calls for.

I hold people's hands as they are dying, or are confused because of dementia or Alzheimer's disease. I have stayed longer at someone's home to be sure that they are comfortable with being back home. I stay and answer questions that they may have, etc...

I am not required to do these things and have gotten yelled at by dispatch because I took too long, but I do it because I care and could care less what dispatch has to say about it.

 

[Dave-W]

"Requirement"- no.

If you say “requirement,” I have to ask - required for WHAT exactly?

For salvation? Absolutely not.
For a clean conscious before God? Maybe.

 

[devin553344]

That depends on whether you see such taxes as overhead or a personal expense.

I see it as the former (but tithe on my tax returns, too).

I never received a gross income from a company, so I don't know why you would donate that much.

 

[Saint Steven]

It's mentioned in post #12 that I added earlier.

That's about giving, not about tithing.
You may be using the term synonymously, but they are not the same.

 

[His student]

...........But I will add this, if you think this is vague and open to interpretation, fine. I think Jesus did it that way on purpose.

I think God wrote the entire Bible so that people with a bad attitude could get their doctrine wrong because of it.
"He who does not have - even what he thinks he has will be taken from him".

If a person has a good attitude and works at it - there isn't much basic theology that won't end up right.

"He who has - to him more will be given".

And the hits will just keep on rollin.

 

[devin553344]

That's about giving, not about tithing.
You may be using the term synonymously, but they are not the same.

Yes I'm starting to see that as many disagree that tithe from the OT still exists. I looked up the definition of tithe and it did indicate 10%. Well apples and oranges then

 

[nanookadenord]

*sigh* alright

Matthew 22:21 - And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

What is Jesus talking about? Money.

Who is he talking to? Pharisees.

What would they (and everyone else) have understood giving to God "the things that are God's"? The tithe.

So, bring on the objections, I'm not interested in responding to them. But I will add this, if you think this is vague and open to interpretation, fine. I think Jesus did it that way on purpose.

What are Pharisees under?

What are Christians not under?

**Topher, you yourself do not have to answer this.

 

[His student]

I'm an EMT and routinely go beyond what my job calls for.

I hold people's hands as they are dying, or are confused because of dementia or Alzheimer's disease. I have stayed longer at someone's home to be sure that they are comfortable with being back home. I stay and answer questions that they may have, etc...

I am not required to do these things and have gotten yelled at by dispatch because I took too long, but I do it because I care and could care less what dispatch has to say about it.

Exactly why I tithe and would hope that everyone does, more or less, if they have a good Christian attitude.

 

[Saint Steven]

That depends on whether you see such taxes as overhead or a personal expense.

I see it as the former (but tithe on my tax returns, too).

Does that qualify as first fruits then?

 

[His student]

If you say “requirement,” I have to ask - required for WHAT exactly?
For salvation? Absolutely not.
For a clean conscious before God? Maybe.

Not a "requirement" was another person's word concerning tithing.

Actually there aren't many things that are required of believers over and above simple trust in Jesus.

 

[nanookadenord]

Exactly why I tithe and would hope that everyone does, more or less, if they have a good Christian attitude.

Not sure what you mean. What part of my post is exactly why you tithe?

 

[Sabertooth]

Does that qualify as first fruits then?

No, not any more than spending business assets on fertilizer to grow the fruits in question. Those assets never made it into your home.

 

[ilovejcsog]

I never received a gross income from a company, so I don't know why you would donate that much.

I don't have a gross now either but it can be figured out. I have known for some time that it is supposed to be figured from the Gross because of first fruits. I also know that what is in your heart is the most important thing. IMO. Knowing you I know God is pleased with you

 

[Sabertooth]

Spontaneous offerings come out of our discretionary income (as available).

(I use a very compartmentalized money management system.)

 

[His student]

I am not required to do these things .......................... but I do it because I care and could care less what dispatch has to say about it.

I could actually care less if the church or even the N.T. told me to tithe or not. I'd do it, or something close to it, anyway.

I would think that would be true for any child of God.

 

[Danielwright2311]

Jesus said to give to any one who asks, so i give to any one who asks, If we care more about our money, a earthy token, then we do not deserve the kingdom. Why? Because God created human life is more important then money.

Giving money to anyone who asks is the same as tithing.

 

[devin553344]

I don't have a gross now either but it can be figured out. I have known for some time that it is supposed to be figured from the Gross because of first fruits. I also know that what is in your heart is the most important thing. IMO. Knowing you I know God is pleased with you

That's totally what it comes down to with me. Sometimes I get the message from God that I should have gave after not giving. Then I try to give the next time. Its a matter of faith with me. And other people I know that give tithes always tell me that God takes care of them even though they're poor.

 

[Dkh587]

Tithing was done with crops/food, not money

 

[Daniel Martinovich]

Lets try this again the right way. Hopefully staff will delete the first one.

None of the above. There was more than one tithe under the Mosaic law. Just like most things in the OT. It is handed down to us as principle not law. As principle it basically says. If God ordained ministry is not supported. ( And if God ordained ministry does not do their jobs correctly.) Have to add that in because otherwise the burden is only on the supporter and not the supported.
Then your nation will be immoral, fall into decay and be ripe for self inflicted destruction.

However. If God ordained ministry is supported by the population and correctly fulfills its duties. Your nation will be moral and therefore as a natural consequence, blessed and prosperous.

Simple as that. That is the promise that comes naturally and the curse that comes naturally.
Tithing As Principle