I feel that you should stop trying to justify your own wickedness and depravity by attempting to equate human wrong doing with Godly judgment. Vast and huge difference.
what wickedness and depravity are you talking about? why does something you admit to be human wrong doing become right when god does it?
I have a question for you. If you desire to take every sentence of the Bible literally and attribute all these things to God then why do you not post all the good attributes to God?
because they don't challenge the idea that the god of the old testament is a perfect god. Why should I focus on the good attributes and decide the god of the bible is perfect based on that, ignoring all the evidence to the contrary?
I don't desire to take every sentence of the bible literally, but I don't see any reason to take these verses symbolically.
Your first verse is David speaking his mind about anyone that will come up against God or His people, and basically his wishes to them. How do you see that as God speaking of dashing babies?
So why are the prophets of god bad people?
It's interesting that you are asking for evidence about wars and battles fought well in the B.C.'s. I am not well studied on archeology/history, so I do not know what physical evidence is available from those times to us. I don't know what kind of evidence you are looking for to begin with. Do you want to see evidence that battles actually took place in that time frame? Evidence that the people were wicked who died? If so, what evidence would actually suffice for you? It seems like an unreasonable type of question to ask, as I don't see how you could even expect an answer that could provide for it accurately.
what is the biblical evidence of what they did? thats all I want to know. And also why all the violence in the OT was neccessary to get to jesus.
Now, do you believe in Jesus since I have explained these things?
waiting........
how likely do you think that is...dunno how serious the question is but we haven't really discussed jesus so far
This is Moses speaking, not God, addressing God as well as Israel. Have you read the Bible?
well, moses was a prophet who gave the law in israel, he told his people to stone disobedient kids and they did it, right? if god didn't approve of this behaviour he wouldn't have permitted it, since he apparently went to extreme and brutal extants to put a stop to behaviour he didn't approve of.
Wow! One actually worthy of a discussion. There are some scholars that say the word 'tare' here can also mean 'cleave'. It is also suggested that this may imply that they were mauled in modern words. The NIV actually uses the word 'mauled', implying they were injured.
So they were injured. Why?
If you were truly interested in understanding the God of the Bible, you would take into account all of what the Bible says about Him before drawing your conclusions as to His nature and purposes.
What should I know which will give me a better idea about his nature and purposes? What justifies his destructive side?
Remember that He is perfect and holy and calls us to be as well.
it's these things which give me a hard time accepting that he is perfect and holy.
We don't need to go around slaughtering people because we aren't supposed to be judges of this world, He is.
We don't need to, unless he asks us to, because he is the judge of the world, right? If God asked you to do absolutely anything at all, you would do it. I'm sure you do have a moral compass, but you'll ignore it if thats what you think god wants. If you really saw things similar to what these verses describe I think you'd either reevaluate your beliefs or at least have a harder time accepting it and anyone who commands it is righteous.
Why not just skip all this obvious misrepresentation and oversimplification of the God revealed in Scripture and simply be honest and say, "I hate God"?
Peace.
I don't hate god.I don't hate the god of the old testament, he doesn't concern me that much. I'm questioning whether the god of the ot is a perfect god, I'm questioning whether he is God. If he isn't, then I don't believe he exists anyway. I'm sure you know that there are other ideas of who God is then the biblical one.
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