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I feel that you should stop trying to justify your own wickedness and depravity by attempting to equate human wrong doing with Godly judgment. Vast and huge difference.

what wickedness and depravity are you talking about? why does something you admit to be human wrong doing become right when god does it?

I have a question for you. If you desire to take every sentence of the Bible literally and attribute all these things to God then why do you not post all the good attributes to God?

because they don't challenge the idea that the god of the old testament is a perfect god. Why should I focus on the good attributes and decide the god of the bible is perfect based on that, ignoring all the evidence to the contrary?
I don't desire to take every sentence of the bible literally, but I don't see any reason to take these verses symbolically.

Your first verse is David speaking his mind about anyone that will come up against God or His people, and basically his wishes to them. How do you see that as God speaking of dashing babies?

So why are the prophets of god bad people?

It's interesting that you are asking for evidence about wars and battles fought well in the B.C.'s. I am not well studied on archeology/history, so I do not know what physical evidence is available from those times to us. I don't know what kind of evidence you are looking for to begin with. Do you want to see evidence that battles actually took place in that time frame? Evidence that the people were wicked who died? If so, what evidence would actually suffice for you? It seems like an unreasonable type of question to ask, as I don't see how you could even expect an answer that could provide for it accurately.

what is the biblical evidence of what they did? thats all I want to know. And also why all the violence in the OT was neccessary to get to jesus.

Now, do you believe in Jesus since I have explained these things?

waiting........

how likely do you think that is...dunno how serious the question is but we haven't really discussed jesus so far

This is Moses speaking, not God, addressing God as well as Israel. Have you read the Bible?

well, moses was a prophet who gave the law in israel, he told his people to stone disobedient kids and they did it, right? if god didn't approve of this behaviour he wouldn't have permitted it, since he apparently went to extreme and brutal extants to put a stop to behaviour he didn't approve of.

Wow! One actually worthy of a discussion. There are some scholars that say the word 'tare' here can also mean 'cleave'. It is also suggested that this may imply that they were mauled in modern words. The NIV actually uses the word 'mauled', implying they were injured.

So they were injured. Why?

If you were truly interested in understanding the God of the Bible, you would take into account all of what the Bible says about Him before drawing your conclusions as to His nature and purposes.

What should I know which will give me a better idea about his nature and purposes? What justifies his destructive side?

Remember that He is perfect and holy and calls us to be as well.

it's these things which give me a hard time accepting that he is perfect and holy.

We don't need to go around slaughtering people because we aren't supposed to be judges of this world, He is.

We don't need to, unless he asks us to, because he is the judge of the world, right? If God asked you to do absolutely anything at all, you would do it. I'm sure you do have a moral compass, but you'll ignore it if thats what you think god wants. If you really saw things similar to what these verses describe I think you'd either reevaluate your beliefs or at least have a harder time accepting it and anyone who commands it is righteous.

Why not just skip all this obvious misrepresentation and oversimplification of the God revealed in Scripture and simply be honest and say, "I hate God"?

Peace.

I don't hate god.I don't hate the god of the old testament, he doesn't concern me that much. I'm questioning whether the god of the ot is a perfect god, I'm questioning whether he is God. If he isn't, then I don't believe he exists anyway. I'm sure you know that there are other ideas of who God is then the biblical one.
 
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Explain to what a baby could do to not be innocent and be deserving of death. You don't believe in reincarnation, so a baby is a totally new soul.

If you had a chance to kill Adolf Hitler, but only as a child would you, knowing what you know now?

God has the benefit of knowing who we will be, even before we are born, and if He decides that a child must die, then the world will be a better place for it.
 
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If you had a chance to kill Adolf Hitler, but only as a child would you, knowing what you know now?

an infant is tiny, defenseless and totally vulnerable. Killing a baby is cruel, cold and cowardly. But under circumstances like having the opportunity to kill Adolf Hitler but only as a child, with the certain knowledge that he will do what he did, most people would deem it neccesary but hate doing it. Did yahweh hate it when the children he ordered to be killed were killed? Did the people who did it hate doing it?

Only God can have that certain knowledge of what person a baby will become, but from a christian perspective God is also the creator of that soul. Knowing everything in that soul's future means he also knows that the soul will be killed as an infant, so yahweh created tiny souls for the sole purpose of being brutally killed by his followers, so their faith in him could be strengthened through bloodshed?

Killing a baby, especially in a brutal fashion, is one of the most detestable things a person can do.
"[SIZE=-1]with God all things are possible[/SIZE][SIZE=-1].'' Matthew 19:24-26, so it is of course possible that God could intervene and stop a person from doing whatever when they are an adult, why then did yahweh choose to have these people slaughtered as babies? He won't intefere with free will, but there are still other ways of intervening. Why did the babies have to be killed in such a brutal fashion? god has lots of wrath for tiny souls who aren't yet capable of making any choices? he can't with hold his wrath until the choices are actually made or at least until they're no longer innocent defenseless children?

And there's also the question of what the eternal situation of the souls will be. Some christians believe everybody is dead until judgement day and then they are sent to either heaven or hell, some believe you go to heaven or hell immedietley upon death. How does God judge souls for things they never actually did?
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The LORD commands: “kill without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children”
—Ezekiel 9:5-6

It's in sync with this:

"The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God." ~Isaiah 52:10

and this:

"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." ~Hebrews 10:31

God, laying bare His holy arm, is a fearful thing....it means He's rollin' up His sleeves.....He means business....

What do you THINK it means in that verse where it states it is a FEARFUL thing to fall into the hands of the living God? Do you think God is kidding about this or that He's not meaning what HE says.

God is not a benign marshmallow of sentimentality. Learn of Him. Do not make assumptions based on wishful thinking or sentimentality.

At the flooding of the earth, ALL died in the flood who were not on the ark He provided. This means babvies, pregnant women, EVERYONE.

In Egypt, ALL the first-born of Egypt died. Not a'one was spared.

God kids not. He is dead serious. It is wise to pay heed.
 
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an infant is tiny, defenseless and totally vulnerable. Killing a baby is cruel, cold and cowardly. But under circumstances like having the opportunity to kill Adolf Hitler but only as a child, with the certain knowledge that he will do what he did, most people would deem it neccesary but hate doing it. Did yahweh hate it when the children he ordered to be killed were killed? Did the people who did it hate doing it?

Only God can have that certain knowledge of what person a baby will become, but from a christian perspective God is also the creator of that soul. Knowing everything in that soul's future means he also knows that the soul will be killed as an infant, so yahweh created tiny souls for the sole purpose of being brutally killed by his followers, so their faith in him could be strengthened through bloodshed?

Killing a baby, especially in a brutal fashion, is one of the most detestable things a person can do.
"[SIZE=-1]with God all things are possible[/SIZE][SIZE=-1].'' Matthew 19:24-26, so it is of course possible that God could intervene and stop a person from doing whatever when they are an adult, why then did yahweh choose to have these people slaughtered as babies? He won't intefere with free will, but there are still other ways of intervening. Why did the babies have to be killed in such a brutal fashion? god has lots of wrath for tiny souls who aren't yet capable of making any choices? he can't with hold his wrath until the choices are actually made or at least until they're no longer innocent defenseless children?

And there's also the question of what the eternal situation of the souls will be. Some christians believe everybody is dead until judgement day and then they are sent to either heaven or hell, some believe you go to heaven or hell immedietley upon death. How does God judge souls for things they never actually did?
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Your 2nd sentence....does that apply when they are most defenseless?
 
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None of the people God said to kill were innocent. Not a single one, for he is just.

He is indeed. And He claims no sentimentality. It is a wise thing to learn of Him and make no assumptions.
 
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What do you THINK it means in that verse where it states it is a FEARFUL thing to fall into the hands of the living God? Do you think God is kidding about this or that He's not meaning what HE says.

God is not a benign marshmallow of sentimentality. Learn of Him. Do not make assumptions based on wishful thinking or sentimentality.

Forgive me for assuming that a being who is supposed to be all loving, holy and perfect is benign and not bloodthirsty and evil.

God, laying bare His holy arm, is a fearful thing....it means He's rollin' up His sleeves.....He means business....

So God has arms and sleeves which he rolls up when he means business?

At the flooding of the earth, ALL died in the flood who were not on the ark He provided. This means babvies, pregnant women, EVERYONE.

In Egypt, ALL the first-born of Egypt died. Not a'one was spared.

Putting aside the fact that there was never a world wide flood, why do you think a god who would do this is perfect and righteous?
What exactly were all the first-born of Egypt guilty of?

Why should we worship a vengeful, evil god who slaughters little children?

That means, if there is a baby born 2 days old, God already knows exactly what's going to happen to that baby and inside that baby for every day of its life. So yes, it's perfectly acceptable to think that God is perfectly aware of how babies will turn out.

if yahweh knew the future of the child, what it would become
and everything that would happen in its life, then he knew
that this soul would be killed as an infant and so would never
go on to do anything at all later in its life.
The soul had not yet been exposed to any circumstances
and had no ability to make choices, so what was inside
the child which made it guilty? the baby was judged
by yahweh, deemed guilty and punished. The baby
had done nothing at all, so what was it guilty of? what
was it punished for? if God knows the certain
future of anybody, wouldn't he know that a person
killed as an infant would of course never do anything
beyond that point? so how could yahweh judge, deem guilty
and punish the soul for something it never did?

And knowing fully that the soul would be killed as a baby by his command, wouldn't this mean yahweh created the soul for this purpose of being slaughtered?
 
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We don't need to, unless he asks us to, because he is the judge of the world, right? If God asked you to do absolutely anything at all, you would do it. I'm sure you do have a moral compass, but you'll ignore it if thats what you think god wants. If you really saw things similar to what these verses describe I think you'd either reevaluate your beliefs or at least have a harder time accepting it and anyone who commands it is righteous

Although some Christians may agree with you on this, I certainly don't. I wouldn't do anything just because I thought God said it. I would first test it against the Bible to make sure it lines up with who God is. If I thought something was telling me to do something morally wrong, and it went against the Bible, it's obviously not God talkin.

Now if I were to have lived in OT times, things would have been different, but I don't need to worry about it. Jesus' life and death and resurrection really changed our responsibilities and requirements for following and loving God.

if yahweh knew the future of the child, what it would become
and everything that would happen in its life, then he knew
that this soul would be killed as an infant and so would never
go on to do anything at all later in its life.
The soul had not yet been exposed to any circumstances
and had no ability to make choices, so what was inside
the child which made it guilty? the baby was judged
by yahweh, deemed guilty and punished. The baby
had done nothing at all, so what was it guilty of? what
was it punished for? if God knows the certain
future of anybody, wouldn't he know that a person
killed as an infant would of course never do anything
beyond that point? so how could yahweh judge, deem guilty
and punish the soul for something it never did?

And knowing fully that the soul would be killed as a baby by his command, wouldn't this mean yahweh created the soul for this purpose of being slaughtered?

You can ask Him when you see Him. God isn't responsible for death though. He brings people into existence to give them life and love, and their death has been brought around by man, not by God. You are understanding the situation well, but just assigning the blame in a strange way. Yes, technically God is bringing in children who will die quickly after birth, but how much different is that to Him then bringing in someone who will live 80 years and then die?

what is the biblical evidence of what they did? thats all I want to know. And also why all the violence in the OT was neccessary to get to jesus.

The biblical evidence in most cases is just saying that they turned from the Lord, or their hearts were wicked, or something along those lines. I'm not going to go through each battle and look for the cause for each victory, but that's the usual type of biblical evidence. It doesn't need to spend time spelling out why the people were wicked, the commandments and laws are in the Bible. If they were wicked, it's obvious they were following things other than those laws. Sometimes the Bible will go into detail about them maybe being sexually perverted or something along those lines, but usually just saying they are wicked suffices for purposes of explaining why the Lord would deliver those people into the hands of the Hebrews.

Also, why is the violence necessary to get to Jesus? For one, without Jesus' salvation, the world was under God's wrath and men had to judge the world less God consumed it all. Look how Moses intercedes in Exodus, I think chapter 32. God was about to wipe out all of Israel's children and Moses stops that wrath by slaughtering many of the offending Jews and gathering back up the faithful. So without Jesus, some of that violence was necessary for that reason. Another reason was that Jesus' blood line had to be established. This may not seem important for you, but it was VERY important to Jews of that time, and even today, to understand Jesus' bloodline and what His lineage was. If the Lord didn't deliver Israel's enemies, Israel would've been wiped out and Jesus never would have came, or would have had to been established through another bloodline.

There are other reasons I'm sure as well, but that's all I have off the top of my head.
 
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what wickedness and depravity are you talking about? why does something you admit to be human wrong doing become right when god does it?



because they don't challenge the idea that the god of the old testament is a perfect god. Why should I focus on the good attributes and decide the god of the bible is perfect based on that, ignoring all the evidence to the contrary?
I don't desire to take every sentence of the bible literally, but I don't see any reason to take these verses symbolically.



So why are the prophets of god bad people?



what is the biblical evidence of what they did? thats all I want to know. And also why all the violence in the OT was neccessary to get to jesus.



how likely do you think that is...dunno how serious the question is but we haven't really discussed jesus so far



well, moses was a prophet who gave the law in israel, he told his people to stone disobedient kids and they did it, right? if god didn't approve of this behaviour he wouldn't have permitted it, since he apparently went to extreme and brutal extants to put a stop to behaviour he didn't approve of.



So they were injured. Why?



What should I know which will give me a better idea about his nature and purposes? What justifies his destructive side?



it's these things which give me a hard time accepting that he is perfect and holy.



We don't need to, unless he asks us to, because he is the judge of the world, right? If God asked you to do absolutely anything at all, you would do it. I'm sure you do have a moral compass, but you'll ignore it if thats what you think god wants. If you really saw things similar to what these verses describe I think you'd either reevaluate your beliefs or at least have a harder time accepting it and anyone who commands it is righteous.



I don't hate god.I don't hate the god of the old testament, he doesn't concern me that much. I'm questioning whether the god of the ot is a perfect god, I'm questioning whether he is God. If he isn't, then I don't believe he exists anyway. I'm sure you know that there are other ideas of who God is then the biblical one.

you don't believe He exists...ok, then why did you even begin this thread? Why give a hoot about a God Who you do not believe in, or what He thinks?
 
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what wickedness and depravity are you talking about? why does something you admit to be human wrong doing become right when god does it?

Your very existence outside of Christ is vile and wicked. And I guess that's the point. Until you can humble yourself and say that God, even if you don't understand the hows and the whys, is vastly more important and more precious than yourself or any person you'll never get it. And you'll only ever admit that when and if God in His grace decides to let you see the truth.
 
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What should I know which will give me a better idea about his nature and purposes? What justifies his destructive side?

Simply read the rest of what the Bible says about God, rather than take a few verses out of context to suggest that God is less than good.

What justifies God's destructiveness? He made it; He can break it. He is perfectly holy and just; He will judge and punish sin.

I don't hate god.I don't hate the god of the old testament, he doesn't concern me that much. I'm questioning whether the god of the ot is a perfect god, I'm questioning whether he is God. If he isn't, then I don't believe he exists anyway. I'm sure you know that there are other ideas of who God is then the biblical one.

If God doesn't concern you that much, then why bother with these questions? You seem to want to confirm rather than to know. By that I mean you appear to have already made up your mind about God and are simply looking to bolster your point of view. You've come here to ask us questions about God with your cup of understanding already full. Under these circumstances, I can't see how your line of inquiry here is going to be of much value in further enlightening you as to God's existence, nature or purposes. You are just going to see only what you expect to see.

Peace.
 
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because they don't challenge the idea that the god of the old testament is a perfect god. Why should I focus on the good attributes and decide the god of the bible is perfect based on that, ignoring all the evidence to the contrary?
I don't desire to take every sentence of the bible literally, but I don't see any reason to take these verses symbolically.

Glass is half empty, or it is half full. In ancient times, if the weather was bad, they wrote that God was angered, or that his wrath was kindled. Have you ever noticed these things?

When David numbered Israel, in 2Sam 24 it says that God moved David to number them, and then in 1 Chronicles 21 it says that Satan moved David to number them. You see my point. In my personal beliefs, when reading, if it doesn't sound right then it may not exactly be what God had intended, unless the opinion of the reader is that the OT God was like Zeus, then it would all make sense:D But, to believe that God is the same God of Christ, one may have to think outside the box a little.



So why are the prophets of god bad people?

Like I mentioned above, maybe there is more to it.







how likely do you think that is...dunno how serious the question is but we haven't really discussed jesus so far

I say that because if you saw the light in Christ, you would not be so brisk about the idea of the OT God being a bad deity. Christ did claim this God, so how would that be explained if that God is a deity of horrific things?

It can't be explained, only examined and determined, but that all is dependent on how one looks at the Bible and the story.



well, moses was a prophet who gave the law in israel, he told his people to stone disobedient kids and they did it, right? if god didn't approve of this behaviour he wouldn't have permitted it, since he apparently went to extreme and brutal extants to put a stop to behaviour he didn't approve of.

Like I said in the original post, God caused them to walk around killing off that generation, 40 years in the wilderness, because it says that they didn't do all that good of a job. Remember, Moses was taken before they got to the promised land.



So they were injured. Why?

I don't know.


What should I know which will give me a better idea about his nature and purposes? What justifies his destructive side?

This wasn't addressed to me but I do think that one has to think that God is not destructive to be able to see that he isn't. Example, someone can say you are a bad person, and believe you to be bad, and not hear certain things, or take them in the wrong context just because they feel that person is bad. But, if that person was truly good, you would eventually see their good, maybe after someone told you that this person indeed was a good person. This would cause that person to apply a different set of constraints around the thoughts, and interaction with that person. I see this the same way. Jesus was the one to say that God is Good, and this should make a path for one to be able to see for themselves that he is indeed good.

So, in essence, it really all comes down to how you feel about Christ. Do you believe that Christ was real? Was the Son of God? I'm not trying to save you here or put you on the spot, just asking you to really think about the 'why' of why you feel the OT God is a horrible deity.
 
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Your very existence outside of Christ is vile and wicked. And I guess that's the point. Until you can humble yourself and say that God, even if you don't understand the hows and the whys, is vastly more important and more precious than yourself or any person you'll never get it. And you'll only ever admit that when and if God in His grace decides to let you see the truth.

I think you could have phrased that a little better, really? Vile and wicked?
 
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Did yahweh hate it when the children he ordered to be killed were killed?

Why would He "death" is only cruel and scary for us.. For Him Death is not the end. It is a simple transition for us from being unaware of, to being unable to deny His presents and Glory. The only thing to fear in death is if you are not prepaired for it. (or what comes after your transformation.)

so it is of course possible that God could intervene and stop a person from doing whatever when they are an adult, why then did yahweh choose to have these people slaughtered as babies? He won't intefere with free will, but there are still other ways of intervening. Why did the babies have to be killed in such a brutal fashion? god has lots of wrath for tiny souls who aren't yet capable of making any choices? he can't with hold his wrath until the choices are actually made or at least until they're no longer innocent defenseless children?

There are millions of little children sold into prostitution every year.. (One reason being that it is said that sleeping with a virgin is a cure for Aids) So, is it better to let these children service up to 20 men a day? or is it better for them to be sent back to the Father who loves them? Would a loving father lament for the home coming of a child in pain? or would He rather wish or command that His child live out a life sentence in prison??

We are not given enough information to know why God decided to have these men send these children Home. It is a bit foolish to think that there could be no reason that life is always better than death.

The only people who truly fear death are those who have nothing to live for beyond this life.

How does God judge souls for things they never actually did?

Who says these children weren't given another chance?
We are appointed once to live and then we must face our judgment, but as you have said How can God judge something they never actually did?

Scripture doesn't provide anything one way or another to my limited knowledge. So for me and mine, we are to simply trust that God is not bound by our interpretations and the traditional views understandings of scripture. We also trust that no matter what His decision is, it will be the righteous one.
 
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I think you could have phrased that a little better, really? Vile and wicked?

I don't know any way to say it that is more direct and blunt than that. If you can think of one then by all means please let me know.
 
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You can ask Him when you see Him. God isn't responsible for death though. He brings people into existence to give them life and love, and their death has been brought around by man, not by God. You are understanding the situation well, but just assigning the blame in a strange way. Yes, technically God is bringing in children who will die quickly after birth, but how much different is that to Him then bringing in someone who will live 80 years and then die?

It's alot different. Some one who dies at 80 has lived a lifetime of making choices and being able to make choices. They can be judged for things that they did. A baby cannot make choices and has not yet done anything.
How then can a baby be judged as guilty. A righteous judge who knows for certain what someone will do ahead of time, would not deem them guilty and punish them before they have done anything. God may be outside of time, but we have no knowledge of what will happen in our future, we haven't yet made the choices of the future, we haven't been exposed to the circumstances and opportunities of the future.

And if we are created by God, then it was his choice to create us that way, to experience ourselves subject to time. We haven't yet been given a chance to make our future choices, especially true for babies who aren't able to make choices yet.
A person who lives till the age of 80 has had a chance at a whole life time.
They are actually given a chance to live where as a baby who dies in infancy isn't. There has been a purpose to their life and they've been given a chance to live for a purpose, whether thats to experience life and be a person, or to praise and worship yahweh, or both. A baby cannot do either.

So for God to command a person to be slaughtered in infancy, knowing for certain ahead of time that he would command this, he created this soul only for that purpose - to be brutally killed as a tiny, defenceless, precious little baby with a whole life ahead of him/her. And apparently for the benefit of the person who did it, to increase their faith in him. What kind of a being wants his followers to slaughter babies to increase their faith in him? Sounds like a devil, not God.
If you don't think it is more tragic and disturbing when a baby is murdered then when an adult is, well I'm very suprised, and disturbed. That would make me think there is definitley something wrong with christian fundamentalists.

you don't believe He exists...ok, then why did you even begin this thread? Why give a hoot about a God Who you do not believe in, or what He thinks?

If God doesn't concern you that much, then why bother with these questions?

I am questioning whether the god of the old testament is perfect and good. I'm questioning whether he is God, and if yahweh, the god of the old testament is not perfect, good and holy, why should I believe he is God? If yahweh is not God, then I have no interest in believing yahweh exists.
Aiki accused me of hating God, assuming that I believe the god of the old testament is God. I don't hate God, and the god of the old testament doesn't concern me enough to hate him.

Now if I were to have lived in OT times, things would have been different, but I don't need to worry about it. Jesus' life and death and resurrection really changed our responsibilities and requirements for following and loving God.

Or do you? You're following and loving a god who you believe not only condoned alot of barbaric killing over things like breaking dietary laws, being a disobedient child, belonging to a different race, mixing different fabrics (?!!) and freedom of religion, but outright commanded ruthless killing and pillaging. Had you have lived during OT times as a follower of the same god, you would have been asked to do these things by the same god.


You can ask Him when you see Him. God isn't responsible for death though. He brings people into existence to give them life and love and their death has been brought around by man, not by God.

Does each individual man bring about his own death, or choose mortality before entering the world? If the answer is no, why is every man responsible for death? Is it because of the choices they make during life? A baby cannot make choices. Irregardless, if a person dies of natural causes or because another person kills them or whatever, thats different to God himself commanding them to be brutally killed. People die as a natural consequence of mortality and maybe God decides when that time is, a baby might die of natural causes, you can blame man for that if you want. But God doesn't have to personally tell someone to go and slaughter a person. If he does that then that is his responsibility, not man's.

Why would He "death" is only cruel and scary for us.. For Him Death is not the end. It is a simple transition for us from being unaware of, to being unable to deny His presents and Glory. The only thing to fear in death is if you are not prepaired for it. (or what comes after your transformation.)

There's a difference between dying naturally and being killed by somebody. So, does God care? childofGod31 said "God does not like to destroy people. It grieves Him.". If God is effected enough by human behaviour to hate certain kinds of it, and if God judged human behaviour by personally intervening in human affairs, then he would also hate destroying people and it would greive him IF he is compassionate, because obviously humans suffer when they are slaughtered, children suffer when they see their parents being slaughtered and people suffer when their homes are pillaged by ruthless killers. So I'd like to see some biblical evidence of whether yahweh was grieved when people were destroyed by his command, whether he was indifferent or whether he revelled in it.

There are millions of little children sold into prostitution every year.. (One reason being that it is said that sleeping with a virgin is a cure for Aids) So, is it better to let these children service up to 20 men a day? or is it better for them to be sent back to the Father who loves them? Would a loving father lament for the home coming of a child in pain? or would He rather wish or command that His child live out a life sentence in prison??

Ok, so this is assuming that yahweh wasn't punishing the children by killing them. If they were killed to save them from a horribe life, why were they killed in such a brutal fashion? That suggests wrath.
Would they be subjected to a horribe life if they lived among the israelites? You seem to be saying they'd live a horrible life among their own race, and the israelites slaughtered all of them so why couldn't they adopt the children?


Who says these children weren't given another chance?

If you mean given another chance to repent and they failed, some of the children were infants not capable of making choices, and there's usually an 'age of accountability' in christian thought which is something like 12 (which seems ridiculous to me anyway).
 
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