How do you distinguish between legit Televangelists and fakes?

[JoyToTheWhirled]

I like Kenneth Copeland's ministry - yes, they take an offering out of obedience once a week, but they say time and time again, that it's not about money. I value their admonition to find good ground to sow into, and to go to and give to church, too. Preaching the gospel does take resources. Simple as that.

 

[now faith]

I like Kenneth Copeland's ministry - yes, they take an offering out of obedience once a week, but they say time and time again, that it's not about money. I value their admonition to find good ground to sow into, and to go to and give to church, too. Preaching the gospel does take resources. Simple as that.

Amen to that.

Television time is not nation wide,each metro area is charged individually,then there are the world wide broadcast.

What most people do not understand is the overhead cost of any thing you set out to do.

I am in the retail business so this concept is easy for me to understand,it's money in and money out.

Some people think that all the money go's in the Preachers bank account, but if most large ministries did not have great faith they would shut down.

As far as what Preachers make in money,what many do not realize is that most men of God are good Stewards and by being blessed they have invested their money and gained wealth
In that manner as well.

As far as their salaries are concerned why would we expect them to not be compensated the same as any other CEO. who is the founder and chief of any other corporations that are word wide?

One exception is instead of building factories men of God are planting Churches,Schools,food banks,and a host of other worthy causes.
They devote all of their life,and massive hours a week doing God's work.

I don't care what car they drive,or airplane because Delta and layovers in Atlanta just doesn't work For someone who has to be on time all over the USA.

 

[Alive_Again]

Go where you're led. There are some people we're not ready to hear yet. If you go by the abundance of peace, you won't go wrong.

As far as feeling uneasy, it is possible to pick up oppressions or God might even be dealing with something you've been carrying and some of the baggage starts acting up.

I've experienced that a number of times from some folks I knew were very spiritual and I started squirming a bit in my shoes. It's important not to judge the minister because of things like this.

For a while I sat in the back of church and certain messages would cause a reaction in the attendees of discomfort, etc. The message might be about repentance in a certain area (TV, etc.) A lot of them had picked up assignments and they were getting pegged during the preaching. A little warfare was likely ocurring as well.

Sometimes there are 'appointments' for cleanup or restoration work and this can cause a reaction you didn't know would occur.

You can be a certain way all of your life and get used to carrying, let's cay, all those "weights". You've gone your whole walk this way and when it's time to begin to approach it, you suddenly become aware. The light hits them and it's an eye opener. You realize you weren't quite as free as you thought. If you press in, you stand to walk in a greater liberty, not just for the meeting, but for the rest of your life.

The Holy Spirit gives you the "red light" or "green light" indicators you can always trust in. Some people get sick and throw up in the presence of a strong anointing. Be careful about drawing too fast of a conclusion because impending warfare can be somewhat uncomfortable on the approach.

Some messages we're not ready for (not having been prepped for), and just pray about what you listen to.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Thanks and yeah some ask for money to much like Benn hinn

TV Time is Expen$ive, and the "Christian Networks" are only businesses, who need to balance their books by "Selling" their product to the consumers.

 

[Alive_Again]

God is doing many good things on Christian TV networks. You take it for granted that there is good ministry available to you. It is not that way everywhere. I've known shutins and all they had was on television. They were ministered to faithfully by the Lord.

It's so important not to judge (your flesh that is) other ministries. The judgments we make keep us from partaking of blessing and the enemy uses them to work against those on the front line, getting people saved and built up.

If you turn on the TV and all you see is what the devil is doing, it's time to take the enemy's glasses off.

Bless those ministries by declaring the wisdom of God over them. Be a part of the solution, not an extension of the problem.

Always a good idea not to knock Benny because he operates in a strong anointing. There's nothing better the enemy would like than for believers to speak against the work of God.

Think on good things, because there's a lot of good on Christian television. TBN is shown all over the world. If you want to be a part of the harvest, start declaring the blessing of God for the work of the harvest on Christian media.

 

[hhodgson]

God is doing many good things on Christian TV networks. You take it for granted that there is good ministry available to you. It is not that way everywhere. I've known shutins and all they had was on television. They were ministered to faithfully by the Lord.

It's so important not to judge (your flesh that is) other ministries. The judgments we make keep us from partaking of blessing and the enemy uses them to work against those on the front line, getting people saved and built up.

If you turn on the TV and all you see is what the devil is doing, it's time to take the enemy's glasses off.

Bless those ministries by declaring the wisdom of God over them. Be a part of the solution, not an extension of the problem.

Always a good idea not to knock Benny because he operates in a strong anointing. There's nothing better the enemy would like than for believers to speak against the work of God.

Think on good things, because there's a lot of good on Christian television. TBN is shown all over the world. If you want to be a part of the harvest, start declaring the blessing of God for the work of the harvest on Christian media.

Indubitably
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[now faith]

God is doing many good things on Christian TV networks. You take it for granted that there is good ministry available to you. It is not that way everywhere. I've known shutins and all they had was on television. They were ministered to faithfully by the Lord.

It's so important not to judge (your flesh that is) other ministries. The judgments we make keep us from partaking of blessing and the enemy uses them to work against those on the front line, getting people saved and built up.

If you turn on the TV and all you see is what the devil is doing, it's time to take the enemy's glasses off.

Bless those ministries by declaring the wisdom of God over them. Be a part of the solution, not an extension of the problem.

Always a good idea not to knock Benny because he operates in a strong anointing. There's nothing better the enemy would like than for believers to speak against the work of God.

Think on good things, because there's a lot of good on Christian television. TBN is shown all over the world. If you want to be a part of the harvest, start declaring the blessing of God for the work of the harvest on Christian media.

Wise and Biblical words Amen.

 

[now faith]

TV Time is Expen$ive, and the "Christian Networks" are only businesses, who need to balance their books by "Selling" their product to the consumers.

We will never know,until Heaven the fruit of TV ministry.


One Dad Hagin quote I like: God is not a counterfeiter, God is not just going to make money in Heaven and throw it down to you.

Honestly which one of us can do anything in this world for anybody without funding.

You can pray for the lost for free , but you still need a roof over your head.

 

[now faith]

Indubitably
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Conspicuously affirmed

 

[Simon the Tanner]

I quit watching Christian television years ago. To me the word televangelist, which is supposed to mean "television evangelist" is a misnomer. There's little about it that is evangelistic. Modern Christian television is mostly self-help, pop psychology, and promotion for the minister's books and conferences. Years ago Contemporary Christian music was a good thing, because the only people doing it were people who truly believed in sharing their faith that way. When the recording industry realized that there was big money in Christian music they took it over and ruined it for the most part. The same thing is true of Christian television. In the old days you might turn on the TV and see a preacher talking about Jesus and truly ministering to some lost soul who happened to tune in. That's a rare thing these days. Dad Hagin usually avoided television and focused on radio and print mediums instead. I think the temptation to resort to entertainment and fluff is just too strong for most ministers, and it waters down the message. JMO

 

[now faith]

Some have stumbled along the way,but for many I believe it is their hearts desire for the Gospel to be preached world wide.

Acts: 1. 8. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

If we study the Gospels, we see nothing about Jesus having mass healing meetings. He healed people where they were. He never asked for money. So, because New Covenant folks have Jesus living in them, they do what Jesus does. There is nothing in Acts or the Epistles that support the work of healing evangelists. Healing for Christians is done by the elders in the church, according to James. Healing for unconverted was done in the market places and streets by ordinary believers. This is why those who go out into malls and offer healing to people they meet is consistent with Scripture.

So, healing evangelism, whether in tents, churches, halls or on TV is non-Biblical. So Christian ministry can be Biblical, Non-Biblical, or Anti-Biblical. Because healing evangelism is non-Biblical, God does do the work of healing because of the faith of the person either ministering or receiving the healing, but it is very hit and miss, and mainly miss if you do the stats of who actually does get and stay healed and those who leave the meetings not healed.

Biblical healing is according to the way Jesus and the Apostles did it, and the record shows that ALL who came to them were healed.

Guy Bevington, a Methodist Holiness itinerate evangelist had many healings in his ministry, but they were done in small rural school houses and in people's homes. Smith Wigglesworth had more healings in people's homes and on the street than in his meetings. John G Lake set up a healing room beside a church auditorium and had people come to receive healing. He trained up a team of Divine Healing Technicians to help him because the number of people coming for healing was too much for him alone. John Wesley had 250 recorded healings during his ministry (including his horse at one stage healed of lameness, some people might say thank goodness his horse had faith for healing!! ). Bevington and Wesley were not Pentecostals or Charismatics, but they believed that Jesus wanted to heal people. These people never begged for money. While Lake was in South Africa many of his helpers died of starvation because some jealous Dowie church people spread false rumours about him and the contributions from the USA dried up. But that did not stop him continuing the ministry.

So, anyone offering healing involving money should be ignored. Healing comes by the grace of God and not how much cash you put in the offering.

It is true that God has healed people through some of these TV evangelists, but I believe that God has overlooked the ignorance and non-biblical practice and made the decision to heal because of His compassion toward the sick person.

 

[now faith]

Would this be considered a mass healing?

Luke: 5. 17. And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judaea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them. 18. And, behold, men brought in a bed a man which was taken with a palsy: and they sought means to bring him in, and to lay him before him. 19. And when they could not find by what way they might bring him in because of the multitude, they went upon the housetop, and let him down through the tiling with his couch into the midst before Jesus. 20. And when he saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, thy sins are forgiven thee.

The power of the Lord was present to heal the multitude.

Would you equate multitude with mass?

 

[now faith]

Oscar as well your statement on these events in the Epistles is biased.

Acts: 8. 4. Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word. 5. Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them. 6. And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did. 7. For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed. 8. And there was great joy in that city. - Bible Offline

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Would this be considered a mass healing?

Luke: 5. 17. And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judaea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them. 18. And, behold, men brought in a bed a man which was taken with a palsy: and they sought means to bring him in, and to lay him before him. 19. And when they could not find by what way they might bring him in because of the multitude, they went upon the housetop, and let him down through the tiling with his couch into the midst before Jesus. 20. And when he saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, thy sins are forgiven thee.

The power of the Lord was present to heal the multitude.

Would you equate multitude with mass?

Good point, but I don't think that Jesus was running a healing meeting in the sense of what goes on through TV or by healing evangelists. The healings here happened in a private home.

Hey, Paul was a tent-maker. I wonder if he thought of making a large gospel tent?

 

[Alithis]

How do you distinguish between legit Televangelists and fakes?

you phone their office and ask how much$ to come and preach to our little town

if they say "odd you should ask the lords been telling us to go there so its free.. then its the real deal ..

if they say a $price 000.00 ..Id be wary

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Oscar as well your statement on these events in the Epistles is biased.

Acts: 8. 4. Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word. 5. Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them. 6. And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did. 7. For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed. 8. And there was great joy in that city. - Bible Offline

"Actually, the reference you quote proves neither your point nor mine. Phillip could have had mass meetings, or he could have done just street ministry. That is not made clear.

 

[now faith]

"Actually, the reference you quote proves neither your point nor mine. Phillip could have had mass meetings, or he could have done just street ministry. That is not made clear.

It was the city of Samaria,Christ had already laid the foundation at Jacobs well.

John: 4. 34. Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. 35. Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest. 36. And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together. 37. And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth. 38. I sent you to reap that whereon ye bestowed no labour: other men laboured, and ye are entered into their labours.


Thank you Oscarr it is nice to have a teacher to help us think a bit.

 

[now faith]

Good point, but I don't think that Jesus was running a healing meeting in the sense of what goes on through TV or by healing evangelists. The healings here happened in a private home.

Hey, Paul was a tent-maker. I wonder if he thought of making a large gospel tent?

I hear Ya and he wasn't promising healing for a seed of 66 dollars to represent the bible blessing.


One of the most out there request for money I have ever heard was, The Boaz blessing.

Some how this guy wanted a specific amount of money based on the book of Ruth.

 

[now faith]

Dad Hagin never begged for money either,his simple statement to his needs was : well the money will come.

When we stop and think, someone who has a great gift of healing is walking in the spirit realm more than the world.

As far as faith goes it takes little to have provision, but someone to rise and walk from a wheel chair that's a mighty work of the Holy Spirit.