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Are you STILL harping on with that same old argument that I have refuted at least twice? Or are you using the typical creationist tactic of ignoring any refutations and retreading the same points refuted a thousand times?

Yep, I'm still waiting on just ONE evol to refute me. You haven't but like Trump, you claim you have. Why didn't you tell us How you refuted me? Is it because it's all in your mind? Of course it is. Failure to actually refute me (prove me wrong) will show everyone what a Trumper you actually are. Waiting.....
 
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Yep, I'm still waiting on just ONE evol to refute me. You haven't but like Trump, you claim you have. Why didn't you tell us How you refuted me? Is it because it's all in your mind? Of course it is. Failure to actually refute me (prove me wrong) will show everyone what a Trumper you actually are. Waiting.....

The fact that you are either incapable of understanding it (or flat out deny that it ever happened) is not an argument against it.

I've pointed out to you several times now that scientists have spoken of life coming from water for a few centuries at least.

Learn to sing a new song. This one is old, and you can't sing it very well.
 
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I've pointed out to you several times now that scientists have spoken of life coming from water for a few centuries at least.

Sure, but God told us this more than 3 thousand years ago, long before Science. Your view is therefore refuted unless you can explain how ancient goat herders knew and correctly wrote this in Genesis chapter 1. ONLY God knew this scientific Fact at the time. It's PROOF of the Literal God. Amen?
 
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Sure, but God told us this more than 3 thousand years ago, long before Science. Your view is therefore refuted unless you can explain how ancient goat herders knew and correctly wrote this in Genesis chapter 1. ONLY God knew this scientific Fact at the time. It's PROOF of the Literal God. Amen?

What, that all life came out of water?

Humans are alive, and according to the Bible, God made them out of dirt. In fact, Genesis 2 makes no mention whatsoever how the animals were created.

Next!
 
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Sure, but God told us this more than 3 thousand years ago, long before Science. Your view is therefore refuted unless you can explain how ancient goat herders knew and correctly wrote this in Genesis chapter 1. ONLY God knew this scientific Fact at the time. It's PROOF of the Literal God. Amen?

Your claim that scientists didn't know that life came from water until 2016 is completely wrong. I have called you out on this at least eight times.

July 15, 2017
July 17, 2017
July 18, 2017
August 17, 2017
September 17, 2017
September 20, 2017
September 22, 2017
September 23, 2017

We have known that life comes from water for centuries, and it is perfectly reasonable that people living two thousand years ago knew that life needs water without needing a God to tell them.

Now will you please drop this ridiculous argument?
 
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What, that all life came out of water?

Humans are alive, and according to the Bible, God made them out of dirt. In fact, Genesis 2 makes no mention whatsoever how the animals were created.

Next!

False, since Gen 1:21 tells us that "every living creature that moves" was created and brought forth from water by the Trinity. Just because some Godless man calls that "natural" does not make it so. Humans were made out of the ground like a potter molds clay by the Hands of Jesus. Look up the word formed in Hebrew in Gen 2:7 and even you should be able to see this.

Root Word (Etymology)
Probably identical with יָצַר (H3334) (through the squeezing into shape),

Like EVERY living creature, Humans are composed of air, dust and water squeezed into shape by Jesus. Try again?
 
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Your claim that scientists didn't know that life came from water until 2016 is completely wrong. I have called you out on this at least eight times.

July 15, 2017
July 17, 2017
July 18, 2017
August 17, 2017
September 17, 2017
September 20, 2017
September 22, 2017
September 23, 2017

We have known that life comes from water for centuries, and it is perfectly reasonable that people living two thousand years ago knew that life needs water without needing a God to tell them.

Now will you please drop this ridiculous argument?

Add another thousand years to your incorrect dating and then tell us HOW ancient men knew that life was created from water AND that we live in a multiverse, Gen 1:8 and Gen 2:4 composed of at least 3 Universes. Your hatred of God is showing...again.
 
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False, since Gen 1:21 tells us that "every living creature that moves" was created and brought forth from water by the Trinity. Just because some Godless man calls that "natural" does not make it so. Humans were made out of the ground like a potter molds clay by the Hands of Jesus. Look up the word formed in Hebrew in Gen 2:7 and even you should be able to see this.

Root Word (Etymology)
Probably identical with יָצַר (H3334) (through the squeezing into shape),

Like EVERY living creature, Humans are composed of air, dust and water squeezed into shape by Jesus. Try again?

Ignoring the word "dust" which has very little to do with water, is it seriously your contention that only God could have possibly known that life came from the seas?

Because I'd hate to break it to you (actually, I rather enjoy the opportunity) to point out that many other civilizations came to similar conclusions... the Greeks come to mind; you might want to look them up.

It actually doesn't take a whole lot of reasoning to figure out a close connection between life and water... especially considering that the average human, who can survive for months without food (not recommended, however), would die of thirst in approximately a week. Water being essential for life, it would stand to reason that water would be a source of life.

This is especially true of the Hebrews, who, being a nomadic people in a desert biome, would take water very seriously indeed.

Take that lesson to heart, Aman -- just because they were smarter than you doesn't mean they were smarter than everyone.
 
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Tell me, what does Genesis 1:24 say?

Your confusion is probably caused by your altered version of Scripture. Here is the KJV with my thoughts in black.

Gen 1:24 And God (Elohim-The Trinity) said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after His (YHWH/Jesus) kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after His (YHWH/Jesus) kind: and it was so.

Read the NEXT verse and you should see that it speaks of "THEIR" kind, which are the kinds made by The Trinity.

Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after HIS kind, and cattle after THEIR kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after HIS kind: and God saw that it was good.

See. It's easy IF you can understand Genesis. More study is indicated.
 
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Ignoring the word "dust" which has very little to do with water, is it seriously your contention that only God could have possibly known that life came from the seas?

Because I'd hate to break it to you (actually, I rather enjoy the opportunity) to point out that many other civilizations came to similar conclusions... the Greeks come to mind; you might want to look them up.

It actually doesn't take a whole lot of reasoning to figure out a close connection between life and water... especially considering that the average human, who can survive for months without food (not recommended, however), would die of thirst in approximately a week. Water being essential for life, it would stand to reason that water would be a source of life.

This is especially true of the Hebrews, who, being a nomadic people in a desert biome, would take water very seriously indeed.

Take that lesson to heart, Aman -- just because they were smarter than you doesn't mean they were smarter than everyone.

Sounds like Trump's reasoning to me. Perhaps it's because your interpretation of Genesis is at fault? Of course it is. Now, tell us HOW ancient men KNEW and correctly wrote that we live in a Multiverse with at least 3 Universes. Gen 1:8 and Gen 2:4

BTW, the word dust is ground without form.
 
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Your confusion is probably caused by your altered version of Scripture. Here is the KJV with my thoughts in black.

Gen 1:24 And God (Elohim-The Trinity) said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after His (YHWH/Jesus) kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after His (YHWH/Jesus) kind: and it was so.

Read the NEXT verse and you should see that it speaks of "THEIR" kind, which are the kinds made by The Trinity.

Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after HIS kind, and cattle after THEIR kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after HIS kind: and God saw that it was good.

See. It's easy IF you can understand Genesis. More study is indicated.

Oh, stop your fan theories. It clearly says that they came from the EARTH, not the water! Sounds like you're STRAININ' to do some EXPLAININ'!
 
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Sounds like Trump's reasoning to me. Perhaps it's because your interpretation of Genesis is at fault? Of course it is. Now, tell us HOW ancient men KNEW and correctly wrote that we live in a Multiverse with at least 3 Universes. Gen 1:8 and Gen 2:4

We don't. Next question?
 
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Oh, stop your fan theories. It clearly says that they came from the EARTH, not the water! Sounds like you're STRAININ' to do some EXPLAININ'!

They did come from the earth (dust of the ground). Jesus made them from the ground at the beginning of the 6th Day/Age Gen 2:19 which continues today. Are you sure that you have read Genesis? Because scientists cannot understand Genesis, they don't know that the Father speaks and Jesus accomplishes His wishes, physically.
 
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They did come from the earth (dust of the ground). Jesus made them from the ground at the beginning of the 6th Day/Age Gen 2:19 which continues today. Are you sure that you have read Genesis? Because scientists cannot understand Genesis, they don't know that the Father speaks and Jesus accomplishes His wishes, physically.

Then so much for your claim that all life came from water! Now you are contradicting yourself! No wonder I can't take you seriously!
 
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Not according to Physics equations which show that there are as many as 11. Soon, this will be physically discovered. Remember that it's written in Genesis chapter One when you hear the announcement. Amen?

I think you are confusing "dimensions" with "universes".

That's what happens when you try to talk about things you are ignorant of.

String theory suggests there might be 11 DIMENSIONS. A dimension is not the same thing as a universe.
 
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I think you are confusing "dimensions" with "universes".

That's what happens when you try to talk about things you are ignorant of.

String theory suggests there might be 11 DIMENSIONS. A dimension is not the same thing as a universe.

Is it confusion, or equivocation?
 
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Then so much for your claim that all life came from water! Now you are contradicting yourself! No wonder I can't take you seriously!

Ah. We now have a "teaching moment" so pay attention. Genesis 1:21 shows that "every living creature that moveth" was created by God the Trinity on the 5th Day and brought forth from WATER. Science confirmed this Truth last year.
www.smithsonianmag.com/.../behold-luca-last-universal-common-ancestor-life-earth-...
The common ancestors were not made by God the Trinity but by Lord God/Jesus as a temporary creation. This is different from Trinity's kinds because The Trinity ALWAYS creates eternally, meaning that ALL kinds created by the Trinity will be in Heaven, eternally.

Lord God/Jesus also made Humans from the dust of the ground on Day 3. Gen 2:4-7 That is WHY Humans MUST be born again from above, by God the Trinity IF they are to inherit God's perfect Heaven. Want Scripture?
 
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I think you are confusing "dimensions" with "universes".

That's what happens when you try to talk about things you are ignorant of.

String theory suggests there might be 11 DIMENSIONS. A dimension is not the same thing as a universe.

We live in the Multiverse which God calls the 3rd Heaven. At first, it was occupied by Adam's world/firmament, which existed in the middle of Water. Gen 1:6-8 Later, our Cosmos was added at the end of the 3rd Day Gen 2:4 and in less than a Billion years, the FIRST stars of our Cosmos lit up. Gen 1:16.

Call it a universe, firmament, or dimension, to God it's the 1st 2nd and 3rd Heaven.
 
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