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A Russified American Orthodox Chestertonian
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Kristos, you seem to not have gotten the memo: the defenders of evolution here in general have done just that. They deny chronology, and give us a narrative whereby sin was "retroactive" and caused death BEFORE man sinned. It looks like you've stepped in without reading the posts.superfluous - this doesn't "prove" anything on the subject since no one has claimed that Adam, first human was subject to death before the fall.
And to you I'll add that you evidently see a (low) level of sophistication that is fundamentalist, simplistic and rejects knowledge (since you're weighing in with the evolutionists, I'll include you with them in interpreting that as our position), and then a higher level of sophistication of people of modern education and science, who have a clearer and truer view of the world, thanks to that science. Am I wrong on that count?
But some of us have a view that sees a still higher level of sophistication, that sees the science of this world as not wrong on everything, but on a few things is terribly wrong, directed by the prince of this world, who is delighted that we have come to have such absolute faith in non-divine, fallible human teaching and learning, and that we have placed it on a level with divine revelation. Those few things cannot be observed, ever, only inferred by making assumptions and calculations with evidence, and generally forgetting that all calculations and assumptions can be made wrong by unknown variables when you cannot observe the distant past you are trying to study. This view is backed up by an understanding of what education is, what philosophy and theology are, and the general exclusion of those things from that education, not as separate subjects, but as the very things that govern that education. And thus, worldly wisdom is turned to folly, and the folly of old wives and superstitious faithful turns out to be wisdom, even if many of them do not understand the reasons why they accept what the world sees as foolishness with childlike faith.
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