How do I stop being angry at God?

[drich0150]

Your probably right. I just don't know how to deal with pride. I have asked God how I deal with pride and I believe He said that He is the one who humbles me. So go figure since He apparently hasn't humbled me yet.

Have you asked to be humbled yet?

 

[Ace99]

Hi brinny, to this day I'm not sure if I've been through the job experience, the anger you see I have felt is with myself. I have hurt so many people all for my all selfish gain. All the time I was crying out to god, I don't want to hurt anyone, I'm sorry, I just can't help myself, you see it breaks my heart, when people have gone through real trauma experiences because they deserve to be cared for. As a child I was bullied and my
Parents divorced but I guess when I weigh it up to the pain I've caused people, there is no excuse, see I have had a job experience of pain, maybe? I started of by gambling when I was 12, I was taking drugs at 16, by 19 I was an alcoholic, I rarely ate because my mum couldn't afford food as a child and she used to ration it, so I got used to eating very little, at 21 I started listening to the doors, by 27 I had convinced myself that the lead singer of the doors, was sending me messages through the music, that eventually I decided thatif I caused enough pain in my life, I would be released from my life, but that all depends on how much pain I was willing to inflict on myself, was I ready? How far could I go? how much did I hate myself? It was then I started self harming and taking overdoses, really drinking a lot and taking drugs, I really hurt myself and others, it was really bad then one day, I looked in the mirror I didn't know who I was anymore, I didn't even know what I was drinking, it looked like whiskey, but it was like no drink on earth, I've ever tasted, I said to god, if you start changing my life around you can have it, so I chucked the bottle if whiskey down the drain and chose him, he got on medication and into a good church, they really helped me, the lord got me into college, learning health and social care, now I volunteer at a place that works along side adults with learning disabilites, they are such amazing people, I love them all so very much, I have a nice flat, which is great because at one
Point, I was homeless for two and a half years, I'm on a recovery programme and I'm well under way, I've been on it for three years. But through all of this I do feel bad because I chose to hurt, maybe not at first but I was selfish, but slowly God is working through this, and I'm rebuilding relationships again, I'm sorry if some of this was heavy, I just wanted to say although there is so much more to say, this doesn't even scratch the surface, God is amazingly patient and kind, he waits until we are ready to accept him, and he takes us how we are, Brinny do you think you could tell me a little about yourself, you could pm if that would be ok. God bless

 

[brinny]

Hi brinny, to this day I'm not sure if I've been through the job experience, the anger you see I have felt is with myself. I have hurt so many people all for my all selfish gain. All the time I was crying out to god, I don't want to hurt anyone, I'm sorry, I just can't help myself, you see it breaks my heart, when people have gone through real trauma experiences because they deserve to be cared for. As a child I was bullied and my
Parents divorced but I guess when I weigh it up to the pain I've caused people, there is no excuse, see I have had a job experience of pain, maybe? I started of by gambling when I was 12, I was taking drugs at 16, by 19 I was an alcoholic, I rarely ate because my mum couldn't afford food as a child and she used to ration it, so I got used to eating very little, at 21 I started listening to the doors, by 27 I had convinced myself that the lead singer of the doors, was sending me messages through the music, that eventually I decided thatif I caused enough pain in my life, I would be released from my life, but that all depends on how much pain I was willing to inflict on myself, was I ready? How far could I go? how much did I hate myself? It was then I started self harming and taking overdoses, really drinking a lot and taking drugs, I really hurt myself and others, it was really bad then one day, I looked in the mirror I didn't know who I was anymore, I didn't even know what I was drinking, it looked like whiskey, but it was like no drink on earth, I've ever tasted, I said to god, if you start changing my life around you can have it, so I chucked the bottle if whiskey down the drain and chose him, he got on medication and into a good church, they really helped me, the lord got me into college, learning health and social care, now I volunteer at a place that works along side adults with learning disabilites, they are such amazing people, I love them all so very much, I have a nice flat, which is great because at one
Point, I was homeless for two and a half years, I'm on a recovery programme and I'm well under way, I've been on it for three years. But through all of this I do feel bad because I chose to hurt, maybe not at first but I was selfish, but slowly God is working through this, and I'm rebuilding relationships again, I'm sorry if some of this was heavy, I just wanted to say although there is so much more to say, this doesn't even scratch the surface, God is amazingly patient and kind, he waits until we are ready to accept him, and he takes us how we are, Brinny do you think you could tell me a little about yourself, you could pm if that would be ok. God bless

Part of who i am and part of my journey is in my profile testimony. It's a long story, including some serious wrestling with God. I know that God sees past our anger and into our hearts where we are wounded, which generates the anger and rage, because He has done so with me.

I also know that He forgives us. Some men of God did atrocious things, like David and Paul, yet they were forgiven. I believe that we need to be "real" with God and speak out what is in our heart, mind, and soul....He knows anyway. When we get to the point that we are desperate beyond what we thought possible, and latch onto Him and tell Him we're NOT letting go until He blesses us, or He shows Himself, that's when He will move heaven and earth on our behalf, because we are in essence saying that He IS and we know that He's all we got. That's what Jacob did. When HE had the audacity to "wrestle" with God and refuse to let go until he blessed Him, God allowed Him to prevail in the wrestling, and even changed his name from Jacob to Israel.

Threads like this one are precious to Him, even if the OP is not quite aware of it.

 

[Sketcher]

Anger toward God must be confronted with truth about God. After all, if we are angry toward a person, the right thing to do is get to the bottom of the matter we are upset about and find the truth rather than just rashly acting against a perceived wrong. That's why we have courts, for instance.

What did God allegedly do to anger you, and how do you know it is God who did it? And how do you reconcile this with the truth that God does not sin against people, but rather, "God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone (James 1:13b)?"

 

[Ace99]

Brinny, thankyou for your posts, God bless You

 

[brinny]

Brinny, thankyou for your posts, God bless You

God bless you too, brother in Christ and son of the Most High God.

 

[Ace99]

Brinny, I just wanted you to know that if you ever need to talk, about anything, I'm here, it sounds like we've both been through a lot, may god bless you my sister

 

[brinny]

Brinny, I just wanted you to know that if you ever need to talk, about anything, I'm here, it sounds like we've both been through a lot, may god bless you my sister

Thanks. We can begin by praying for each other, amen? And yes, i will keep that in mind. God bless you.

 

[Ace99]

I will keep you in my prayers. God bless

 

[brinny]

Thank you. It means a lot.

 

[Ultima4257]

Anger toward God must be confronted with truth about God. After all, if we are angry toward a person, the right thing to do is get to the bottom of the matter we are upset about and find the truth rather than just rashly acting against a perceived wrong. That's why we have courts, for instance.

What did God allegedly do to anger you, and how do you know it is God who did it? And how do you reconcile this with the truth that God does not sin against people, but rather, "God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone (James 1:13b)?"

I am angry with God because He designed hell to be a place of eternal torment where people are tortured for all eternity. Their is no justice in that to me, it is cruel. If perfect justice demands such, then we as humans should have the full knowledge of how holy God is and how repulsive sin is to Him. Also, people should be judged for their own sins in stead of punishing their families to the third and fourth generation.

 

[Willie T]

Ultima4257,

I have an equally simple question for you.

Why can't you forgive God for what you feel He has done wrong?

It's a simple thing to do. And it is entirely in your own hands and up to you. Why not give it a try?

 

[Ultima4257]

Ultima4257,

I have an equally simple question for you.

Why can't you forgive God for what you feel He has done wrong?

It's a simple thing to do. And it is entirely in your own hands and up to you. Why not give it a try?

Wow, forgive God. That is a new one there. Honestly, what would the purpose of this serve? God is already right now matter what anyone else says. If this is simply for my benefit it will not work, because to forgive you have to forget and not hold it against God. I simply cannot do that right now. Thank you for the suggestion though, maybe one day I will consider it.

 

[Sketcher]

I am angry with God because He designed hell to be a place of eternal torment where people are tortured for all eternity. Their is no justice in that to me, it is cruel. If perfect justice demands such, then we as humans should have the full knowledge of how holy God is and how repulsive sin is to Him. Also, people should be judged for their own sins in stead of punishing their families to the third and fourth generation.

1) Everybody's got enough sin on their own record to be damned, he doesn't need to condemn people to the third and fourth generation.

2) Murderers, rapists, and other oppressors are being tormented forever, or at least they will be. I don't have a problem with this. Cruel people deserve a cruel fate.

3) Human beings know enough intrinsically that there is a Creator and Lawgiver, and that they fall well short of moral rightness. We know enough, and those who got more of a visual revelation from God almost all abused the privilege and still sinned against him.

 

[Ultima4257]

1) Everybody's got enough sin on their own record to be damned, he doesn't need to condemn people to the third and fourth generation.

Really? Then why did the son of David and Batsheba die for David's mistake. Doesn't seem like he committed any sin. Furthermore, what of the destruction of the Amalekite children and the children from the flood? Were they punished for their sins or the sins of their father's?

2) Murderers, rapists, and other oppressors are being tormented forever, or at least they will be. I don't have a problem with this. Cruel people deserve a cruel fate.

You can say that all you want, but when it comes down to it I don't think any descent human being could approve of such a horrendous torture as hell for ALL ETERNITY. There would be no end to their suffering, which seems odd because the suffering they caused by their actions were temporary and not felt for eternity.

3) Human beings know enough intrinsically that there is a Creator and Lawgiver, and that they fall well short of moral rightness. We know enough, and those who got more of a visual revelation from God almost all abused the privilege and still sinned against him.

Fair enough. I am not saying that humans don't have ANY idea of what sin is, but their is a big difference between how we view sin and how God sees it. We aren't on the same level of understanding as God, but He feels it is just to punish someone forever in spite of this. If someone in our society wasn'tt fully aware of his actions we wouldn't punish him to the fullest extent of the law would we? If a child doesn't fully understand something the way and adult does, do we punish them the same?

 

[Sketcher]

Fair enough. I am not saying that humans don't have ANY idea of what sin is, but their is a big difference between how we view sin and how God sees it. We aren't on the same level of understanding as God, but He feels it is just to punish someone forever in spite of this. If someone in our society wasn'tt fully aware of his actions we wouldn't punish him to the fullest extent of the law would we? If a child doesn't fully understand something the way and adult does, do we punish them the same?

But we have sufficient awareness for culpability, that's the problem. This isn't like condemning a mentally challenged child for biting someone and drawing blood. It's more like a boy who grew up in a household where his father beat his mother, then the boy grew up, beat his own wife, and was sent to prison for it. Though he was acclimated to a toxic environment, he knew deep down it was wrong, and committed an act deserving of punishment anyway.

 

[Sketcher]

I'm sorry, but...what? You can be angry at God all you want. In fact, why should it subside? Maybe your anger will lead you away from a BS notion of God to a real understanding of who and what God is.

I wouldn't count on anger to lead someone to a more rational concept. Rejecting beliefs about God simply because they make a person upset is a logical fallacy. How one feels about God does not make God exist or cease to exist, nor does it alter God's traits if he does exist. A lot of people who say they don't believe in God anymore forget or ignore that.

 

[razeontherock]

Fair enough. I am not saying that humans don't have ANY idea of what sin is, but their is a big difference between how we view sin and how God sees it.

So then it becomes important to gain God's own perspective on things. Glad you realize how important this is!

We aren't on the same level of understanding as God, but He feels it is just to punish someone forever in spite of this.

I could respond to your OP in detail, but the main thing is you are forming an entire set of opinions based on a very narrow second-hand set of ideas: namely, that hell is eternal conscious torment. What if God's Judgment is actually quite a bit different from how you picture it, based on what you have been told? This seems less an issue of forgiveness, and more a case of not having the full picture.

In any event, you should read Psalms. In it you will see King David using God as his personal psycho-therapist. He unloads on God, and lets Him have it! He also does this in prayer to God re: his enemies. Jesus quotes the former. You could learn a lesson here ...

 

[aiki]

I am angry with God because He designed hell to be a place of eternal torment where people are tortured for all eternity. Their is no justice in that to me, it is cruel.

You seem to be starting off in your considerations of hell with the idea that God can do, and does, some things imperfectly. But this immediately removes God from the role of God. If God does anything imperfectly, He is not God. The God you are angry at, then, is not God. If He were, His perfection would preclude any anger toward Him - except, perhaps, if you have obtained a misunderstanding of His perfect character and actions, or your own imperfections have prompted such anger. Could it be that the problem isn't with God, but with you? Could it be that your finite, sin-corrupted understanding and nature puts you at odds with the holy, infinite perfection of God? This seems a distinct possibility to me.

If perfect justice demands such, then we as humans should have the full knowledge of how holy God is and how repulsive sin is to Him.

We do have such knowledge. God makes this crystal clear in how severely He judges our sin. The horrendous punishment of hell declares the great and awful wickedness of our sin. If the punishment of hell is a perfect response to our sin, our sin must be incredibly vile indeed! Rather than acknowledge this, however, people like yourself would rather condemn God's righteous judgment. How easy we can become with our sin, where we are angry at God for judging our sin rather than at ourselves for committing it!

Also, people should be judged for their own sins in stead of punishing their families to the third and fourth generation.

This is exactly what God does. Every man must give an account for his actions to God. No one will be doing so on behalf of another. Read Ezekiel 18.

Selah.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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