How do I "stimulate", my Evolution? I can be stimulated to embrace the theory, but what next?

[Subduction Zone]

Let me point this out again.

Deuteronomy 28:59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.

Do you know what "of thy seed" means?

It means they had whole societies of ostracized people living in caves (what do you call them, "cave men"?), in the hills, here there and everywhere.

And all you have is 300!?

Keep looking!

Abusing the Bible does not help you. You would have to prove that the Bible is a reliable source. Since that is what is being debated, and you have not provided any evidence yet I do not see how you are going to do that. Right now you are merely employing a circular argument. That is s logical fallacy.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry, but to use evidence one must be able to understand it.

That's not my job.

Did geologist Harold Cook present evidence for Nebraska Man?

 

[AV1611VET]

Since that is what is being debated, and you have not provided any evidence ...

Who's the one providing the evidence?

Me? not hardly.

Some other poster here provided the evidence ... (I think he mentioned fossils).

So the evidence has already been provided.

Why are you wondering why I'm not supplying any?

Isn't what you have enough?

Lay your evidence right out here on the table.

One bone, or a whole graveyard ... let's see it and talk about it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Who's the one providing the evidence?

Me? not hardly.

Some other poster here provided the evidence ... (I think he mentioned fossils).

So the evidence has already been provided.

Why are you wondering why I'm not supplying any?

Isn't what you have enough?

Lay your evidence right out here on the table.

One bone, or a whole graveyard ... let's see it and talk about it.

That is because you do not appear to understand the nature of evidence. The evidence provided only supports the theory of evolution. And why the continual falsehoods? Come on AV you know better than that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That's not my job.

Did geologist Harold Cook present evidence for Nebraska Man?

No. He did not. But then you do not understand the nature of evidence. By the way, you just lost again.

Why are you using dishonest arguments? This sort of action could be considered trolling on your part and may be against site rules.

 

[AV1611VET]

That is because you do not appear to understand the nature of evidence.

Again, I don't need to understand the nature of evidence.

Evidence ain't my bag.

People want to show me bones, then tell me where they came from and expect me to buy into it, and I'm not; because I already know -- (okay, believe strongly) -- where they came from, how they got that way, and why they're there.

the evidence provided only supports the theory of evolution.

Only on paper.

 

[AV1611VET]

No. He did not.

Then who did?

Why are you using dishonest arguments? This sort of action could be considered trolling on your part and may be against site rules.

If it's trolling, there's no MAY BE about it.

I have a feeling admin knows I'm being honest in presenting my beliefs ... just as I'm sure you are.

 

[Frank Robert]

I would label the same bone as coming from a plagued person.

If you were a competent paleontologist you might be correct, but no competent paleontologist would label all Neanderthal fossils as sapiens that suffered from plague.

 

[Frank Robert]

Sin is a violation of the laws of God, a crime against God, so, a crime.
Denominations are a man created thing so no, on specific denomination can define what is and what is not sin, only the bible, and ultimately God, does. Anything outside of the bible that people would try to define as sin is only a guess.

Did you ever read Leviticus?

The fatal flaw you have is you keep seeing Christianity as only an institution of man, and keep seeing everything in it, as man created.
You keep removing God
and I do mean it is a FATAL flaw.
until you see that, you are doomed to perish, eternally.

You failed to answer my question. Would you take the word of what constitutes sin from a Christian brought up in a different denomination than you?

 

[AV1611VET]

If you were a competent paleontologist you might be correct, but no competent paleontologist would label all Neanderthal fossils as sapiens that suffered from plague.

I agree with you 100%, Frank.

If I were competent by the world's standards, I would not label all Neanderthal fossils as sapiens that suffered from a divine plague.

Would you hire someone who you knew would do that?

 

[Frank Robert]

I agree with you 100%, Frank.

If I were competent by the world's standards, I would not label all Neanderthal fossils as sapiens that suffered from a divine plague.

Would you hire someone who you knew would do that?

When I was in a position to hire people for my clinic I hired them for their education, training and experience, in most cases they performed well but there were a few that did not and they had to be let go.

 

[Mr Laurier]

It's not unusual for people to not understand imperfections.
My wife never walked after age eight. So what was the point of keeping her alive
if she couldn't walk the plains? One of my grandkids still is unable to talk at that age due to Autism. What's the point? Feed for the lions?

You may have missed the point

 

[Mr Laurier]

and there it is... the real reason for believing in no God.
the attempt to avoid judgement even though your conscience tells you what you're doing is wrong and deserves punishment.

Not even close.
The fact that nothing I am doing is wrong. And no punishment is deserved...
Ought to be your first clue

 

[Mr Laurier]

Only on paper.

No.
In the hills of Asia, and the open veldt of Africa. And even the forests of Europe... long before paper was invented

 

[Mr Laurier]

Just wanted to emphasize that it's not the same as the judge just forgiving the fine and the fine not being paid.
The fine is still being paid, SOMEONE is being punished, it's just someone in your place.
That is ultimately a difference between Islam and Christianity as well.
In Islam, Allah just up and forgives people for their sins without a savior or atonement, so justice is not served. Allah is an unjust "god". It is further emphasized because a Muslim does not know if Allah will forgive him, or not, he can just try to be as righteous as he can and hope Allah is merciful.
So not only is justice not served on some, but on who it is meted on on, is totally arbitrary, making it not justice at all.

Within Christianity, the OFFER to have the Judge pay the fine Himself is open, but it's your choice.. accept the mercy, or demand that you stand judgement for your own actions.. in which case you will inevitably be found guilty and punished. Either way, Justice is served, punishments are applied for every sin committed.
It's just whether you accept that you cannot pay your fine and accept the offer of the Judge, who didn't commit the crime, you did, paying the fine for you out of love, or, you receive the justice you deserve yourself.

What if you fail to commit a crime?

 

[SkyWriting]

You may have missed the point

My foot is fantastically designed just as is. It's not only perfect, but it's adaptable which is far better than perfect. Disabled people are also perfectly suited for their intended roles to play.

They are not intended as food for the lions.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Sure thing:

1. Time divided into BC and AD.
2. Organizations such as the Red Cross and Salvation Army.
3. Hospitals built by Christian organizations.
4. Beautiful Christian artwork, edifices, statuary and literature.
5. IN GOD WE TRUST on our coins and UNDER GOD in our pledge of allegiance.
6. The Ten Commandments and other literature displayed in public.
7. Christmas & Easter
8. Symbols on bumper stickers and flags.
9. Public debates in the name of Christianity.
10. Crosses and billboards erected to testify of Jesus Christ.
11. Two major nations founded on His existence.

Again, the same refuted nonsense.

 

[Mr Laurier]

My foot is fantastically designed just as is. It's not only perfect, but it's adaptable which is far better than perfect. Disabled people are also perfectly suited for their intended roles to play.
They are not food for the lions.

Yeah. You missed the point

 

[SkyWriting]

Yeah. You missed the point

Killing the disabled does seem a bit harsh, so you likely slid around that obstacle with your logic.
People do that.

 

[Mr Laurier]

You're letting man determine what's a crime and what is not, not God.
but it's the other way around.
God defines what is wrong and what is not wrong, not man.
So yes, what is sin is a crime, it's against the law of God.

Man exists. As does Man, and Man, and Man.
And Man, Man, Man, and Man, decided that some things were crimes, long before God was invented.