How did all of the Coelophysis at Ghost Ranch die?

[joshua 1 9]

An explanation that ignores contrary facts is not an explanation it is an unsubstantiated and flawed assertion.

There are no contrary facts. I did quite a bit of research on this. I spent about three months doing a study on Ghost Ranch. This is a very, very small part of what happened at Pangea but all the evidence available to us at Ghost Ranch can be used to verify what Kat Kerr is saying. She claims that there is a Creation Museum in Heaven where we will go to learn about how God created the Earth and how Dinosaurs were a part of that.

I even talked to Kat Kerr on the internet radio once. I could not find anything that she reveals that contradicts the Bible or Science. Your entitled to your own conclusions and to believe what you want. I can only give an account for myself.

American vertebrate paleontologist Edwin H. Colbert did work at the ranch that helped him to develop his theory on continental drift that has now developed into a theory on plate tectonics. Mostly though his study on Coelophysis.

https://www.ghostranch.org/explore/the-land/

 

[joshua 1 9]

No, what are you talking about? What is the topic of this thread supposed to be?

We are talking about the evolution of carnivores. This has to do with the work that paleontologist Edwin H. Colbert did with the Coelophysis at the ghost ranch and how that became a part of his continental drift theory that helped to lay the foundation for plate tectonics today.

As I explained children love to study the dinosaurs and the reason they love to study them is because they had teeth and they would devour each other. As I said the bipedal coelophysis was a carnivore that could grow up to 3 m (9.8 ft) long. Coelophysis is one of the earliest known dinosaur genera.

 

[joshua 1 9]

The idea that anything can die and slowly sink to the ocean or lake bottom is ridiculous.

Is this a reference to the burgess shale? The fossils are so abundant from that era that they are almost a dime a dozen. I even have some around here somewhere.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

We are talking about the evolution of carnivores. This has to do with the work that paleontologist Edwin H. Colbert did with the Coelophysis at the ghost ranch and how that became a part of his continental drift theory that helped to lay the foundation for plate tectonics today.

As I explained children love to study the dinosaurs and the reason they love to study them is because they had teeth and they would devour each other. As I said the bipedal coelophysis was a carnivore that could grow up to 3 m (9.8 ft) long. Coelophysis is one of the earliest known dinosaur genera.

... I think you already answered this question of mine.
But you must have met some very strange children if you think they only liked dinosaurs just because of their teeth.

 

[joshua 1 9]

... I think you already answered this question of mine.
But you must have met some very strange children if you think they only liked dinosaurs just because of their teeth.

About dot com says the number one reason children like dinosaurs is because they are really big and scary. Steven Spielberg likes to cash in on this with his Jurassic Park movies.

Why Do Kids Like Dinosaurs? The Mystery Explained

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

About dot com says the number one reason children like dinosaurs is because they are really big and scary. Steven Spielberg likes to cash in on this with his Jurassic Park movies.

Why Do Kids Like Dinosaurs? The Mystery Explained

That's not what it says. The link even gives the first reason as: "Reason No. 1: Dinosaurs Are Big, Scary – and Extinct".
Elephants are big and scary, but they don't have teeth. Neither do rhinos, but they children are equally as fascinated by them as they are by dinosaurs.

 

[joshua 1 9]

That's not what it says. The link even gives the first reason as: "Reason No. 1: Dinosaurs Are Big, Scary – and Extinct".
Elephants are big and scary, but they don't have teeth. Neither do rhinos, but they children are equally as fascinated by them as they are by dinosaurs.

The point is that Dinosaurs is a very important part of Creationism. If you want to teach Creationism to children one way to do that is to get their attention by talking about Dinosaurs. In this thread we are talking about Coelophysis and the part that Coelophysis plays in evolution. This has to do with the evolution of carnivores.

Somewhere along the way creationism and evolution goes their own way. This happens in Pangea at the time of the flood. So when we read about Noah's flood in the Bible this is an allegory and points to what happened in Pangea when the world was destroyed at the time the Coelophysis were destroyed.

Of course for Evolutionists extinctions and populations are all a part of evolution and they do not see any difference between this event and all the other extinction repopulation events. Even the Bible talks about how God populates the earth with a remnant which is believed to be 10%.

Doomsday preppers talk about that today. They think that 90% of the population is going to be destroyed and in order to survive 10% of the people are going to need to be prepared for what is coming. Mormons for example have been very big on this sort of teaching for over 100 years now.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The point is that Dinosaurs is a very important part of Creationism. If you want to teach Creationism to children one way to do that is to get their attention by talking about Dinosaurs. In this thread we are talking about Coelophysis and the part that Coelophysis plays in evolution. This has to do with the evolution of carnivores.

But you can't teach creationism because there is nothing to teach.

 

[joshua 1 9]

But you can't teach creationism because there is nothing to teach.

For me theistic evolution is creationism.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

For me theistic evolution is creationism.

It is a form of creationism, I will grant you that, but it is a form that can actually WORK with science whilst regular Biblical creationism cannot be teachable or work.

 

[joshua 1 9]

It is a form of creationism, I will grant you that, but it is a form that can actually WORK with science whilst regular Biblical creationism cannot be teachable or work.

We have cause and effect. The world we live in is effect. God became a part of the world when Jesus was born. People are without excuse because we can see God in the world that He created: "For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." Romans 1:20

 

[SkyWriting]

Is this a reference to the burgess shale? The fossils are so abundant from that era that they are almost a dime a dozen. I even have some around here somewhere. View attachment 189765

Any form of life must be buried quickly before decay or consumption by other animals. I suppose a poison or temperature change might kill off scavengers at the same time in some cases.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

...The idea that anything can die and slowly
sink to the ocean or lake bottom is ridiculous.

Have you not heard of 'whale fall'? Many kinds of marine vertebrates die and slowly sink to the ocean floor - there's a whole ecosystem of creatures evolved to scavenge their carcasses. What do you think happens to dead marine vertebrates, and where do the sea bed carcasses come from if not above?

 

[SkyWriting]

Have you not heard of 'whale fall'? Many kinds of marine vertebrates die and slowly sink to the ocean floor - there's a whole ecosystem of creatures evolved to scavenge their carcasses. What do you think happens to dead marine vertebrates, and where do the sea bed carcasses come from if not above?

I have heard such bunk. The possibility of a fossil resulting is close to zero.
Even the bones get eaten, as your link states.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Any form of life must be buried quickly before decay or consumption by other animals. I suppose a poison or temperature change might kill off scavengers at the same time in some cases.

The issue is to be well preserved and protected from bacteria.

 

[SkyWriting]

The issue is to be well preserved and protected from bacteria.

Pickle brine might work.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

We have cause and effect. The world we live in is effect. God became a part of the world when Jesus was born. People are without excuse because we can see God in the world that He created: "For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." Romans 1:20

Meaningless. You cannot teach Biblical creationism as a scientific theory because there is no science. You cannot reconcile evolution with Biblical creationism, and you cannot reconcile the discovery of dinosaurs with Biblical creationism.

 

[joshua 1 9]

there's a whole ecosystem of creatures evolved to scavenge their carcasses.

This happens out in our yard if we throw food out there. First the cats come along and eat what they want, although they mostly make a mess. Then the squirrels get what they want, and the birds eat what they want. The possum eats a lot and cleans up pretty good after the cats. Then the ants and bacteria works on what is left. It is a messy process but everything pretty much gets recycled. Every now and then a racoon comes along and eats something.

 

[joshua 1 9]

You cannot teach Biblical creationism as a scientific theory because there is no science.

The only creationism that is acceptable right now is Francis Collins. Esp his book called "The language of God". I have studied some of Gerald L. Schroeder. He gets into Jewish tradition, including Kabbalah & Maimonides. The Kabbalah is considered to be for older people that are at least 30. So that is not as much of an issue for school age children that we usually are concerned with in a conversation like this.

Of course there is no restriction on what the school teaches.
The concern is on what the students will be tested on.

 

[bhsmte]

The only creationism that is acceptable right now is Francis Collins. Esp his book called "The language of God". I have studied some of Gerald L. Schroeder. He gets into Jewish tradition, including Kabbalah & Maimonides. The Kabbalah is considered to be for older people that are at least 30. So that is not as much of an issue for school age children that we usually are concerned with in a conversation like this.

Of course there is no restriction on what the school teaches.
The concern is on what the students will be tested on.

Can you tell us what Francis Collin's opinion is on the theory of evolution?