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In a sense...some denominations have Wesleyan Holiness roots...but there are other categories as well.If I remember correctly, Pentecostals are the spinoff from Methodism.
Oh, I see, so Divine Love is not "knowing"?
Whatever are you talking about?
Loving is not relationship? Whatever do you mean?
What in your mind and definition is "relationship"?
Somehow I think you have your own personal definition. Please share it.
I don't know them.. the wolves OR the godly ones.Ok so....theres been some fairly heated debates recently involving certain Pente / Charismatic 'practices' where me and others have been trying to ask people involved in these things to discuss exactly which of the leaders / teachers /pastors in those movement are DAMAGING and which ones do they hold up as good examples.
So can we have a thread where we discuss exactly this issue and come to some unity on who are the false teachers who have deceived MILLIONS in the third wave movement, how this has happened......and how the respected leaders in the movement differ from the wolves.
Please bring forward the wolves AND the godly teachers in the movement and lets critically examine their respective teachings in the light of day.
Ready......set.......begin >
Probably came up with it from the Bible. it's just a Christian truth. Bible says we do not wrestle flesh and blood ...I've heard this a few times...not really sure where folks came up with that either...but, I recall hearing it said by a Baptist once...so it must not be a strictly Pentecostal/Charismatic saying.
Probably came up with it from the Bible. it's just a Christian truth. Bible says we do not wrestle flesh and blood ...
Probably came up with it from the Bible. it's just a Christian truth. Bible says we do not wrestle flesh and blood ...
Satan walks around like a roaring lion seeking who he might devour 1 peter 5
The theif comes not BUT to
kill
steal
and destroy.
We WRESTLE not against flesh and blood but against .....
...because if you're really saved you won't be able to stand what you're doing for very long."
Sorry but your post is too difficult to understand .Yes but the bible also says .. we are called to peace .
and the bible also says .. we should not have an unhealthy interest in controversies .
and also that one who has respect for God will avoid all extremes .
there are times when God is blessing you, and everyone else is acting all crazy, and such doctrines can make us question if we should be in a place of peace . and this tells me . that's something the devil would say .
don't worry . trust instead . and the peace that surpasses all understanding will protect your heart and your mind in Christ Jesus .
by believing all affliction is a reward for doing good, we let the enemy in that way .
a balanced perspective is always the order of the day .
Sorry but your post is too difficult to understand .
Anyhow. I posted what the Bible says.. that there's a devil making trouble for us..
God warned us.
So when trouble comes I look to see where it's coming from and act accordingly.
If it's from the enemy i stand and fight like a man.
If it's God pruning me i cry... well?...
If it's God disciplining me, I repent.... etc.
But I don't just "assume" that it's God ...
Good rule of thumb:
God is always good
devil is always bad
I meant in the OT knowledge shows up in English but there are two types of knowledge. Head knowledge and intimate knowledge .
What I understand trinity to be is the oneness described in John where Jesus said "do you not know that i am in the Father and the Father is in me?"
Jesus prayed that we have the same oneness, and in this way we "trinity" with one another, i in you you in me and the community in and in one another as one body .
God is trinity . we "trinity" with other people .
and we are all one in each other .
or as it is prophesied of the final picture God will be all and in all .
So once I experienced it to understand it,
i realized all in the image and likeness .
have this capacity .. and they do it all the time .
Good... cos it was Scripture lol.I'm with you there...
I don't think we have to worry overly much about 'that' happening!but there are some sayings that could be taken the wrong way...like this one that Michael mentioned...An immature Christian may think that if they aren't going through some sort of trial that they've lost their salvation or God's angry with them or something...it sounds silly, I know...but we have to be careful with how we word things.
Jow very pantheistic and New Age.
That floats well with the Word of Faith cult too.
Yes but the bible also says .. we are called to peace .
and the bible also says .. we should not have an unhealthy interest in controversies .
Yep.. he does try to trick.well even that rule of thumb for example, sometimes the devil will be nice to you or even act according to scripture . so it is not always so simple .
it's always just emphasis . and how it affects the hearts . at times i can see the melody words make .
just expressing how i was experiencing scripture .
you left out an important word that gives the context, "useless".
We are to avoid useless controversies. Christians are to ernestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints(Jude 3).
Experiences are misleading and deceiving, don't trust them unless tested against the sure Word of God, understood in context, and not reading your own invented meanings into them as some kind of mystic.
Amen.Experiences are misleading and deceiving, don't trust them unless tested against the sure Word of God, understood in context, and not reading your own invented meanings into them as some kind of mystic.
Yep.. he does try to trick.
But the devil is always bad
God is always good.
Amen.
The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.. who can know it?
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