How can RCs and Protestants reconcile

[squint]

Sorry fella, being born again by the blood of Jesus is what adds you to the body of Christ, not just believing you are.

Sorry fella, your formula isn't going to change Love or God Living in anyone IF they don't cotton to your formula.

You have to receive His salvation from Him, and it is a tangible experienced event.

It may very well be personally and subjectively tangible but it is not a provable experimental (tangible empirical evidence via experiement) experience.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you have never had it happen and you are living in your mind.

Well there Mr. I have it and you may not, when you gett yer ol' lasso around LOVE you jes bring 'im on over to me I'll jes give 'im a RIDE OK? Otherwise I'll remain suspect of your attempts to formulate God into whatever incantations you may employ to use against others.

enjoy!

squint

 

[ARBITER01]

What do you mean what am I trying to 'get at?' I said the sin of homosexuality is no different than your sin or the sin anyone else has. You think if a homosexual is born again that they stop being homosexual? lol You think that God does not save homosexuals? lol He will save them no differently than He will save you and it won't be based on your ability to make your flesh or mind sinless in the name of God 'cause that AIN'T gonna happen.



If you have divided yourself from your neighbors you are really going to have quite a hard time loving them eh? God did not come to take us 'out' of the world. Quite the opposite.



We cannot say we have no sin or we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

Paul said when he wanted to do good that EVIL was present with him and that the sin that indwelt him was NO LONGER I....Romans 7:17-21. Paul also said God Himself put a devil upon him. I like that kind of stark honesty.

enjoy!

squint

Taking things out of context eh?

Sorry, it is no longer I who live but Christ who lives in me, and no, I'm not a sinner under the dominance of sin any longer because of that fact. I was buried and risen with Him.

 

[racer]

Or the Messianics

http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=130

Uh huh, Messianic Judaism right here:

http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Mormons are polytheists
JWs deny the divinity of Christ

What about Messianics?

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=3877128&page=4&highlight=Messianics
Differences between Christianity and Messianics

 

[ARBITER01]

Sorry fella, your formula isn't going to change Love or God Living in anyone IF they don't cotton to your formula.


It may very well be personally and subjectively tangible but it is not a provable experimental (tangible empirical evidence via experiement) experience.



Well there Mr. I have it and you may not, when you gett yer ol' lasso around LOVE you jes bring 'im on over to me I'll jes give 'im a RIDE OK? Otherwise I'll remain suspect of your attempts to formulate God into whatever incantations you may employ to use against others.

enjoy!

squint

Lol, my friend, ye must be born again.

 

[squint]

Have you paid close enough to Squint's arguments? When he referred to "love" (I believe, but could be wrong) "buying and paying" for his (I think he's a he ) salvation, he assumed that we fellow Christians would understand he was referring to Christ.

YES! VERY MUCH, thank you for listening!

I also think it very ILL advised to think we can formulize or put into a "tin can" experiencing LOVE. Impossible I'd say.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Lol, my friend, ye must be born again. You obviously are not.

How so>

 

[racer]

Mormons are polytheists
JWs deny the divinity of Christ

No argument from me . . .

 

[squint]

Lol, my friend, ye must be born again. You obviously are not.

Oh, by all means, please provide me your certification list...then let me know which one of several dozens that I've seen are applicable and certifiable and by whom.

One thing is for certain, LOVE is undoubtedly in EVERY CASE vastly Superior to whatever formula you want to put upon Him.

You use your 'born again formula' (whatever in the world that is) to CONDEMN others, that much is obvious and AS SUCH to me, a very worthless measure.

enjoy!

squint

 

[ARBITER01]

How so>

Well, anytime someone arguably refuses to acknowledge the born again experience in their life, that normally is a big flag as to them not being of Jesus.

Additionally, he is trying to make up his own requirements as to who can be a Christian and again, arguing against what Jesus said about it, which is no different from some denominations in that respect.

 

[sunlover1]

If you have divided yourself from your neighbors you are really going to have quite a hard time loving them eh? God did not come to take us 'out' of the world. Quite the opposite.

9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.​

http://christianforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=50569216#_ftn1http://christianforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=50569216#_ftnref1

 

[squint]

Taking things out of context eh?

Sorry, it is no longer I who live but Christ who lives in me, and no, I'm not a sinner under the dominance of sin any longer because of that fact. I was buried and risen with Him.

I see. So this doesn't apply to you either?

1 John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

 

[racer]

Lol, my friend, ye must be born again. You obviously are not.

 

[ARBITER01]

Oh, by all means, please provide me your certification list...then let me know which one of several dozens that I've seen are applicable and certifiable and by whom.

One thing is for certain, LOVE is undoubtedly in EVERY CASE vastly Superior to whatever formula you want to put upon Him.

You use your 'born again formula' (whatever in the world that is) to CONDEMN others, that much is obvious and AS SUCH to me, a very worthless measure.

enjoy!

squint

The truth is the truth, whether you want to think someone is condeming you or not.

You don't get a free pass with everyone just because you claim to love folks, people will test the spirit and want to know those who labor amongst them. There are going to be wolves in sheeps clothing claiming to be a Christians, and we are to be smart about it and know them by their fruits.

 

[squint]

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9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.​

You will inevitably be led to see the 'wicked person' as the other people.

I see the 'wicked' as a working that is with me. You know the drill.

I also see Jesus in the midst of harlots and sinners of every kind with a particular hatred of those who were captured by 'religious' anti-christ spirits who like to beat their chests and say 'thank God I'm not like the other people.'

enjoy!

squint

 

[racer]

LLOJ now sits out for awhile and lurks

Hebrews 2:14 Therefore then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, and He in like manner did partake to the same, that thru the Death He might take-away the one having the power of the Death--that is, the Devil

Yeah, ain't that a crock! Pile up some good dry driftwood, throw in a match or two, sit back and watch the sparks fly---then when the small flickering flame becomes boring, pour on the gasoline and have a bonfire!!!

 

[ARBITER01]

I see. So this doesn't apply to you either?

1 John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

No I don't because I've been cleansed from all unrighteousness. You don't understand the context of the passage.

Once we confess our sins He is faithful and Just to forgive us,..

1Jn 5:18 We know that whosoever is begotten of God sinneth not; but he that was begotten of God keepeth himself, and the evil one toucheth him not.

 

[squint]

The truth is the truth, whether you want to think someone is condeming you or not.

By all means, please feel free to expound the eternal fate of those people who do not meet your formula for being 'born again.'

You don't get a free pass with everyone just because you claim to love folks,

Sez you.

Romans 13:
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Galatians 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

people will test the spirit and want to know those who labor amongst them. There are going to be wolves in sheeps clothing claiming to be a Christians, and we are to be smart about it and know them by their fruits.

Uh huh. Who is a wolf but that working that condemns those we are to love?

enjoy!

squint

 

[racer]

You don't get a free pass with everyone just because you claim to love folks,

Are you actually reading Squints posts or are you clueless? Squint explained when he spoke of love, he wasn't speaking of "love" in general, but Christ.

 

[squint]

No I don't because I've been cleansed from all unrighteousness. You don't understand the context of the passage.

Once we confess our sins He is faithful and Just to forgive us,..

Don't know too many groups other than fringe cults and some sects of reformeds who claim sinless perfection of their flesh.