How can RCs and Protestants reconcile

[LittleLambofJesus]

The Devil, the devils children are ALL of 'one family.' The anti-Christ spirit family. They ALL work the same way, and are VERY predictable. One of the very first SIGNS of their existence IN people is to only blame and accuse mankind. Another 'sign' is to sentence people to burn alive forever. These are all workings of that EVIL in peoples hearts.

John 8:44 :Ye out of a father, the Devil are and the desires/lusts/epi-qumiaV <1939> of the father of ye, ye are willing to be doing.

Reve 18:14 `And the fruition of the desires/epi-qumiaV <1939> of the soul of thee departed from thee. And all the sumptious-things and shinings perished from thee. And not still not no shall be finding them.

 

[Nadiine]

And as my pastor says, "Whats LOVE got to do with it"?
YES God loves us.
I love my kids, but if they fight and come to me saying, well mom,
i know you love me so ...(blah blah) I say , Yeah I love you!
What's THAT got to do with it?



It IS love to tell them the truth.
It's the opposite of love to make someone comfortable now,
in lieu of eternity.

So... what do you think NOW?
Almost bad as P/E?


Anyhow, hope you enjoy all of our little group as
you get acquainted.
MOST folks here are loving even when we are unreasonable.

I'm not sure if I'm ready yet to join the Nuclear Club

- let me sleep on it & I'll see how I feel in the morning


If I can handle P/E I'm sure I'll be fine here;
that is unless I get turned against by BOTH Catholics & Non's
for NOT putting on my war gear & stepping out onto the front lines.

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[ARBITER01]

Well someone hasta do it .

I see we have a new thread competing with this one.
Naturally it's bottom line is Sola Scriptura.

ALWAYS about the "Word".
Nothing new under the sun.

Yea. I have to manage my subscriptions or I'm all over the place with subjects. I'll check it out.

 

[squint]

Exactly!

Without being born again, the love of GOD is not within us. Just because a person demonstrates a form of love does not automatically include them as a Christian, which is what some segments of universalists tend to think.

Normally it is the homosexual crowd that wants to concentrate on just love being the answer towards everyone and ignoring all the rest of the truth.

Glad you are honest enough to say 'some segments.' Christian Universalism is just like any other christian group containing a VAST ARRAY of beliefs and differences just like any protestant or orthodox group.

As to your remark about homosexuals, I believe that is no different of a sin than what you also have, even though it may not be the same sin action. Yours is the same SIN as theirs buddy and yours are not excused just because you are a believer while you get to openly condemn their sin, though most so called believers do like to try.

 

[squint]

Love will not buy you salvation.

Last time I checked LOVE already bought and paid for my salvation. Sorry.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

LLOJ now sits out for awhile and lurks

Hebrews 2:14 Therefore then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, and He in like manner did partake to the same, that thru the Death He might take-away the one having the power of the Death--that is, the Devil

 

[racer]

In heaven there will be no denomination, only those who were born into the kingdom of HIS Son.

Already addressed this argument with someone didn't I?

See, this is our biggest problem, some times we are such literalists, we create disagreements where, in reality, there are none.

As I said, in another comment, some people of all different faiths while they inhabited earth and their human bodies will be in heaven.

I said it once, and I'll say it again: When we stand before Christ--He is not going to ask us what church we attended.

As far as being born again, it is those who washed their robes in the blood of the lamb who were up in heaven around the throne of GOD.

Statements that are as vague and open to interpretation as Scripture is sometimes, give me a headache!

 

[ARBITER01]

As to your remark about homosexuals, I believe that is no different of a sin than what you also have, even though it may not be the same sin action. Yours is the same SIN as theirs buddy and yours are not excused just because you are a believer while you get to openly condemn their sin, though most so called believers do like to try.

I'm not sure what you are trying to get at here unless you have yet to go through the experience of being born again.

A born again Christian is no longer a part of this world and it's people, they have come in contact with Jesus upon the throne and have experienced His new life. While they may be here, spiritually they are no longer sinners and part of a fallen race.

 

[squint]

Oh GOD is love, but until you have your spirit renewed by the blood of Jesus and have HIS Holy Spirit place within you, you don't have GOD's love no matter how much you want folks to think you do.

However you try to formulize or formulatize this matter will remain a separate subjective observation.

The requirements are there by GOD, not anyone of us.

All the requirements and the ONLY thing that counts is loving our neighbors as ourselves. To that command there is no exception and no fault. Those who 'do so' have God LIVING and WITH them regardless of what other limitations you have imposed in order to 'condemn' your neighbors.

I had to be born again just like anyone before me. There are no favorites with GOD in HIS salvation.

Well, whooppee ding for you and your groups list. Bravo! Go do something with same.

enjoy!

squint

 

[ARBITER01]

Last time I checked LOVE already bought and paid for my salvation. Sorry.

Sorry, love will not buy you salvation. Your ideas that anyone who loves is automatically a Christian are not grounded biblically.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Sorry, love will not buy you salvation. Your ideas that anyone who loves is automatically a Christian are not grounded biblically.

Then I recommend reading thru the Gospel of John a few times

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7337743

 

[katholikos]

Last time I checked LOVE already bought and paid for my salvation. Sorry.

And what if an atheist is a loving person?

 

[ARBITER01]

However you try to formulize or formulatize this matter will remain a separate subjective observation.



All the requirements and the ONLY thing that counts is loving our neighbors as ourselves. To that command there is no exception and no fault. Those who 'do so' have God LIVING and WITH them regardless of what other limitations you have imposed in order to 'condemn' your neighbors.


Well, whooppee ding for you and your groups list. Bravo! Go do something with same.

enjoy!

squint

Sorry fella, being born again by the blood of Jesus is what adds you to the body of Christ, not just believing you are.

You have to receive His salvation from Him, and it is a tangible experienced event. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you have never had it happen and you are living in your mind.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

And what if an atheist is a loving person?

What about Jews and Muslims

 

[squint]

I'm not sure what you are trying to get at here unless you have yet to go through the experience of being born again.

What do you mean what am I trying to 'get at?' I said the sin of homosexuality is no different than your sin or the sin anyone else has. You think if a homosexual is born again that they stop being homosexual? lol You think that God does not save homosexuals? lol He will save them no differently than He will save you and it won't be based on your ability to make your flesh or mind sinless in the name of God 'cause that AIN'T gonna happen.

A born again Christian is no longer a part of this world and it's people,

If you have divided yourself from your neighbors you are really going to have quite a hard time loving them eh? God did not come to take us 'out' of the world. Quite the opposite.

they have come in contact with Jesus upon the throne and have experienced His new life. While they may be here, spiritually they are no longer sinners and part of a fallen race.

We cannot say we have no sin or we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

Paul said when he wanted to do good that EVIL was present with him and that the sin that indwelt him was NO LONGER I....Romans 7:17-21. Paul also said God Himself put a devil upon him. I like that kind of stark honesty.

enjoy!

squint

 

[racer]

Oh, and FYI, everyone--I checked the CF homepage, and I did not find JWs or Mormons listed under Christian Communities or Faith Groups.

 

[ARBITER01]

Then I recommend reading thru the Gospel of John a few times

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7337743

Sorry, his view is that if someone loves another they are automatically Christians, and Jesus says different about that.

He has a misunderstanding of that book that doesn't agree with the whole of scripture.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Oh, and FYI, everyone--I checked the CF homepage, and I did not find JWs or Mormons listed under Christian Communities or Faith Groups.

Or the Messianics

http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=130

 

[racer]

And what if an atheist is a loving person?

Have you paid close enough to Squint's arguments? When he referred to "love" (I believe, but could be wrong) "buying and paying" for his (I think he's a he ) salvation, he assumed that we fellow Christians would understand he was referring to Christ.

If I'm wrong and don't know what the "hey" I'm talking about, just tell me to shut-up. I probably won't, but you can tell me anyway.

 

[katholikos]

Oh, and FYI, everyone--I checked the CF homepage, and I did not find JWs or Mormons listed under Christian Communities or Faith Groups.

Mormons are polytheists
JWs deny the divinity of Christ