How can RCs and Protestants reconcile

[squint]

sorry, Paul did this in speaking of some....

It's no wonder in this forum, so many just cannot make distinctions
of false teachers & false teachings...
you're programmed to think that you cannot KNOW the truth of God
& that you cannot claim to be right.
That's evil around here.

NO one is 'totally right.' It's NOT possible. We 'all' see only IN PART...so there is no TOTALLY right.

And no, it is NOT evil to love our neighbors as ourselves NOR is their any FAULT to be found in attempting to do so OR to justify such by the scriptures.

& it's no wonder people are led by false teachers too.

And it's real easy to sling around unsubstantiated false accusations and not well thought out positions.

John 8:32
And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

2 Timothy 2:25
in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth,

It boils down to some are right & some are wrong.
In the end, God will make the judgments on who had it wrong
& who had it right.
It's not that we cannot know[/quote]

It is when we fault the other that we ourselves have fallen.....and we fall in that way as VICTIMS of DARKNESS, not as children of the LIGHT.

The RCC cannot stop me with their doctrinal impositions fromm being a child of The Light anymore than they can stop me from loving my neighbors as myself. I even get to love them too!

enjoy!

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[LittleLambofJesus]

here's the correct hat for this thread

Or this

John 9:39 And said the Jesus "into judgement I, into the world, this, came. That the ones no beholding may be beholding, and the ones beholding, blind may be becoming".
41 Said to them the Jesus "if Blind ye were, not ever ye had sin. Now yet, ye are saying that 'we are Beholding', the sin of ye is remaining".

 

[Nadiine]

It does.



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oh good, I hate when I try to say something but it doesn't come
out right or how I mean it.


Oh & I'm present now, you can add me on the list

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[racer]

Maybe so. You were describing this utopia

One can dream about Utopia--who will deny that in heaven there'll be Catholics, Baptists, Pentecostals, Lutherans, Anglicans, Methodists, Non-denominationals?

that could be with denominations and such but it would require a toss out of theology,

Not necessarily. It would require and adjustment to our perception of theology.

which ultimately would require us to throw out our bibles

I disagree.

 

[ARBITER01]

Love is of God, and everyone who loves IS born of God, but he may not realise it works the opposite too. You dont have the love of God Unless you ARE born of God.

Exactly!

Without being born again, the love of GOD is not within us. Just because a person demonstrates a form of love does not automatically include them as a Christian, which is what some segments of universalists tend to think.

Normally it is the homosexual crowd that wants to concentrate on just love being the answer towards everyone and ignoring all the rest of the truth.

 

[squint]

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Which is why we should speak the 'truth' as we know it...
IN love.

Ah, and you also know that LOVE believes ALL THINGS right?

4 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant
5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;
6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth.
7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

When the JW's or the Mormons come to my door, the LAST thing I would EVER tell them is that they are DAMNED in the name of LOVE or that they have to 'believe like me' to be saved. That is just idiocy.

enjoy!

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[racer]

One can dream about Utopia--who will deny that in heaven there'll be Catholics, Baptists, Pentecostals, Lutherans, Anglicans, Methodists, Non-denominationals?

Not necessarily. It would require and adjustment to our perception of theology.

I disagree.

Oooops, I left out the Orthodox . . . sorry . . .

 

[ARBITER01]

One can dream about Utopia--who will deny that in heaven there'll be Catholics, Baptists, Pentecostals, Lutherans, Anglicans, Methodists, Non-denominationals?

Not necessarily. It would require and adjustment to our perception of theology.

I disagree.

The only people up is heaven will be sons of GOD. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, male or female after salvation. So only those that were born into the kingdom of His Son will be there, no one else.

Jesus brought a sword and it divides.

 

[sunlover1]

oh good, I hate when I try to say something but it doesn't come
out right or how I mean it.


Oh & I'm present now, you can add me on the list

Nadiine, LittleLambofJesus, benedictaoo, Tzaousios, tadoflamb, squint, racer, ARBITER01, Oneofthediaspora, boswd

So... what do you think NOW?
Almost bad as P/E?


Anyhow, hope you enjoy all of our little group as
you get acquainted.
MOST folks here are loving even when we are unreasonable.

 

[sunlover1]

Exactly!

Without being born again, the love of GOD is not within us. Just because a person demonstrates a form of love does not automatically include them as a Christian, which is what some segments of universalists tend to think.

Normally it is the homosexual crowd that wants to concentrate on just love being the answer towards everyone and ignoring all the rest of the truth.

And as my pastor says, "Whats LOVE got to do with it"?
YES God loves us.
I love my kids, but if they fight and come to me saying, well mom,
i know you love me so ...(blah blah) I say , Yeah I love you!
What's THAT got to do with it?

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Ah, and you also know that LOVE believes ALL THINGS right?

4 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant
5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;
6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth.
7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

When the JW's or the Mormons come to my door, the LAST thing I would EVER tell them is that they are DAMNED in the name of LOVE or that they have to 'believe like me' to be saved. That is just idiocy.

enjoy!

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It IS love to tell them the truth.
It's the opposite of love to make someone comfortable now,
in lieu of eternity.

 

[Tzaousios]

If you deny the sufficiency of Christ's atonement, you are not saved.

I affirm that Christ's atonement is sufficient for all believers. However, what do we say to those Protestants who believe in a limited atonement and that Christ's blood is sufficient in theory for all men, but only efficient for some?

JohnDeereFan, I think my post became lost in the flurry of replies to this thread. I am interested in what your answer to my question might be. Thanks.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

So... what do you think NOW?
Almost bad as P/E?


Anyhow, hope you enjoy all of our little group as
you get acquainted.
MOST folks here are loving even when we are unreasonable.

I actually enjoyed posting on the ole GA board and that is definately where a Christian needed "tough skin"!!!

 

[ARBITER01]

And as my pastor says, "Whats LOVE got to do with it"?
YES God loves us.
I love my kids, but if they fight and come to me saying, well mom,
i know you love me so ...(blah blah) I say , Yeah I love you!
What's THAT got to do with it?

Lol, tough love.

 

[racer]

The only people up is heaven will be sons of GOD. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, male or female after salvation. So only those that were born into the kingdom of His Son will be there, no one else.

Catholics (please correct me if I'm wrong) don't actually preach "born again" as do we Protestants. However, they do go through "Baptism and Communion." This, as well as I understand it (and I am not Catholic), is their form of being "reborn."

Jesus brought a sword and it divides.

Are you saying, that no people who were of the Catholic faith when they resided on earth will be in heaven?

 

[sunlover1]

Lol, tough love.

Well someone hasta do it .

I see we have a new thread competing with this one.
Naturally it's bottom line is Sola Scriptura.

ALWAYS about the "Word".
Nothing new under the sun.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Catholics (please correct me if I'm wrong) don't actually preach "born again" as do we Protestants. However, they do go through "Baptism and Communion." This, as well as I understand it (and I am not Catholic), is their form of being "reborn."

It's a passage in a life within the institution, not necessarily a matter of the heart.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Are you saying, that no people who were of the Catholic faith when they resided on earth will be in heaven?

 

[ARBITER01]

Catholics (please correct me if I'm wrong) don't actually preach "born again" as do we Protestants. However, they do go through "Baptism and Communion." This, as well as I understand it (and I am not Catholic), is their form of being "reborn."

Are you saying, that no people who were of the Catholic faith when they resided on earth will be in heaven?

In heaven there will be no denomination, only those who were born into the kingdom of HIS Son.

As far as being born again, it is those who washed their robes in the blood of the lamb who were up in heaven around the throne of GOD.

 

[squint]

Right, their father is the devil.
He wasnt speaking TO the devil.

The Devil, the devils children are ALL of 'one family.' The anti-Christ spirit family. They ALL work the same way, and are VERY predictable. One of the very first SIGNS of their existence IN people is to only blame and accuse mankind. Another 'sign' is to sentence people to burn alive forever. These are all workings of that EVIL in peoples hearts.

The point with all of this SL is that Jesus DID without any doubt speak to OTHER ENTITIES in and with mankind.

On this basis alone it pays us as believers to pay attention to WHO is or MAY be being addressed and maybe even give our fellow man the possibility of a break in these matters and turn our "Godly judgment" at least to the other parties that are in fact involved.

enjoy!

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[racer]

It's a passage in a life withing the institution, not necessarily a matter of the heart.

Clearly, I don't agree with Catholic theology, or I would be Catholic. But, I am enough of a realist to understand that my perceptions and beliefs, as I discern them, are as subject to being faulty as anyone whose beliefs are not in line with mine.

I have very strong opinions and disagree openly with those of differing faiths, but hey, to assert that "my" understanding of Scripture is completely right and anyone whose understanding is not in line with mine is in trouble, would kind of be like me asserting that "I" am infallible. I don't think I want to go there . . . .