How an Evangelical Creationist Accepted Evolution

[Hoghead1]

The scientists would well know what being in the ground for that time could do to it, Patlee34.

 

[AV1611VET]

Ummmm...there is a gene that determines your hair color. A change in that gene, making a hair color different is a mutation.

Ah, yes.

Natural selection?

Does hair color go into fight-or-flight mode?

If evolution causes hair color to change, how's come there are still blondes around?

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

Does hair color go into fight-or-flight mode?

It's a neutral mutation unless there are advantages in your environment. For example, polar bears and their white fur in the arctic would be better survivers than brown bears

If evolution causes hair color to change, how's come there are still blondes around?

That's a cute strawman you built there. Is this a variation of "if we come from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?" question. Certainly you've been around here long enough to know what an erroneous question that is.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's a neutral mutation unless there are advantages in your environment.

May I ask what a "neutral mutation" is?

Is that a mutation that is neither beneficial nor harmful?

 

[lasthero]

Would they know perfect DNA if they saw it?
Even if early DNA was preserved, who knows what being in the
ground for 4000 to 5000 years did to it?

It did nothing to it. It's the same.

There is not one shred of evidence that DNA has ever been or can even be 'perfect'.

 

[Hieronymus]

And if you assume life was created by a God

Not "a God", but God. But which one?

, then we're probably .....?

Special to Him, also his property.

 

[Hieronymus]

May I ask what a "neutral mutation" is?

Is that a mutation that is neither beneficial nor harmful?

No mutation is unharmful, because it's random data-corruption.
You may notice the harm done generations later though.

 

[AV1611VET]

No mutation is unharmful, because it's random data-corruption.
You may notice the harm done generations later though.

Were Adam & Eve products of random data corruption, made in the image and likeness of God and pronounced ...

Genesis 1:31a And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.

 

[Hieronymus]

Were Adam & Eve products of random data corruption, made in the image and likeness of God and pronounced ...

Genesis 1:31a And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.

According to Genesis, obviously not.
According to reason and some commons sense neither (i.m.h.o.)

Mutations take their toll in living nature.
It will degrade, because it's a system without maintenance.

 

[AV1611VET]

According to Genesis, obviously not.

But what sayest thou?

 

[Hieronymus]

But what sayest thou?

I don't believe in materialistic / naturalistic conjectures.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't believe in materialistic / naturalistic conjectures.

I'm confused.

Do you believe in biological macroevolution?

 

[Hieronymus]

I'm confused.

Do you believe in biological macroevolution?

No man, i'm a creationist.
I'd think you could tell.

 

[AV1611VET]

No man, i'm a creationist.

So are theistic evolutionists.

(According to Wikipedia, anyway.)

I'd think you could tell.

Well, I haven't read every one of your posts.

I did look at your profile, but it ... well ... lacks pertinent information.

Just wondering if you believe in monkey-to-man evolution.

You half-sound like a scientist, and I was beginning to wonder where you stood on Genesis 1.

(And still do.)

 

[Hoghead1]

Evolution does not go monkey-to-man. If that is what you believe, then you nee to do more studying on the basics. Also, you cannot always rust Wikipedia. I hold Good and evolution are one, but I would not call myself a creationist. The latter term generally refers to those in creation science.

 

[Hieronymus]

So are theistic evolutionists.

I thought they were theistic evolutionists.

(According to Wikipedia, anyway.)Well, I haven't read every one of your posts.

I did look at your profile, but it ... well ... lacks pertinent information.

Just wondering if you believe in monkey-to-man evolution.

No, nor in fish to bird or whatever.
Mutation is data corruption. Only the viable survive, or need medical help.
I'm a full blown creationist.
I don't believe dead unconscious things can perform miracles.
Yes, miracles.
Because all of mankind doesn't even understand reality.

You half-sound like a scientist,

Do i really?
I take that as a compliment.

and I was beginning to wonder where you stood on Genesis 1.

(And still do.)

Not anymore, i hope.

 

[AV1611VET]

Evolution does not go monkey-to-man.

Then what was the Scopes monkey trial all about?

If that is what you believe, then you nee to do more studying on the basics.

What year was "monkey" plutoed?

If you studied this, I would think you should know.

Also, you cannot always rust Wikipedia.

Well I'm not omniscient, and I misplaced my slide rule, so I don't really know when to rust them and when not to rust them.

I hold Good and evolution are one, but I would not call myself a creationist.

Wikipedia would.

The latter term generally refers to those in creation science.

If you say so.

 

[Hieronymus]

Evolution does not go monkey-to-man. If that is what you believe, then you nee to do more studying on the basics.

It's a poor conjecture.
We're waiting for proof for some 150 years now....
So what's there to study?
Just poor materialistic apologetics, based on the conjecture...

Behold the power of thorough indoctrination...
The church could have only dreamed of something like that...

 

[AV1611VET]

I thought they were theistic evolutionists.

They are.

But they are also creationists.

Theistic evolution, theistic evolutionism, or evolutionary creationism are views that ...

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[Hieronymus]

Allright, i see.