Homosexuality

[Loudmouth]

Both attractions are unnatural and abnormal.

According to whom?

A homosexual says that they were born that way, and so does a zoophile.

I was born a heterosexual.

When these two groups act on their desires it causes negative health effects. They are both damaging, unhealthy, and unnatural sexual deviations.

Please, explain. I have known many same sex couples, and their relationships are just as undamaging and healthy as any heterosexual relationship I have seen.

If you are going to argue that unnatural is bad, then please try to be consistent. You should not wear clothes, eat processed foods, drive in cars, fly in airplanes . . . etc.

Now you go back and read what I wrote in my first post and tell me how homosexuality is any better than beastiality.

I think you just proved my point for me. You view homosexuals as animals.

 

[Nani-Day]

According to whom?

Common sense, and a mind unaffected by liberal trash.

I was born a heterosexual.

What's your point?


Please, explain. I have known many same sex couples, and their relationships are just as undamaging and healthy as any heterosexual relationship I have seen.

Im mostly talking about the blatantly unnatural sex acts that have a ridiculously high risk for diseases along with the act of sodamy. Its also not healthy to the surrounding young minds that are being taught that this abnormality is normal when its clearly not. You should read up on statistics of homosexual relationships.

If you are going to argue that unnatural is bad, then please try to be consistent. You should not wear clothes, eat processed foods, drive in cars, fly in airplanes . . . etc.

Terrible argument. Im talking about basic biology, not inventions that we've thought up through out time. Also humans were given the ability to create and do those things. That is our nature.

I think you just proved my point for me. You view homosexuals as animals.

Youre not even trying to listen are you?

You still havent answered any of my questions either.

 

[Loudmouth]

Common sense, and a mind unaffected by liberal trash.

Liberals have been called names ever since the civil rights movement. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it continues today. For whatever reason, some people really hate it when people get equal treatment under the law.

Im mostly talking about the blatantly unnatural sex acts that have a ridiculously high risk for diseases along with the act of sodamy. Its also not healthy to the surrounding young minds that are being taught that this abnormality is normal when its clearly not. You should also read up on statistics of homosexual relationships.

I see a lot of claims, but no real data. Heterosexual couples engage in those same behaviors, and yet I don't see you condemning heterosexual couples.

Terrible argument. Im talking about basic biology, not inventions that we've thought up through out time. Also humans were given the ability to create and do those things. That is our nature.

Do you really think that homosexuality was just invented, and that it has no biology behind it?

You still havent answered any of my questions either.

Which questions would you like answered?

 

[Andrea411]

Both attractions are unnatural and abnormal. A homosexual says that they were born that way, and so does a zoophile. When these two groups act on their desires it causes negative health effects. They are both damaging, unhealthy, and unnatural sexual deviations. Now you go back and read what I wrote in my first post and tell me how homosexuality is any better than beastiality.

Why would anyone answer such a post... its obviously entirely ignorant. Comparing homosexuality to beastiality is like comparing it to pedophilia.
Why not compare it to adultery? or the desire to look at porn? Both national pastimes for heterosexuals.
Compare the sin of one group with a similar sin of another.... don't just reach for what you find appalling.

 

[Andrea411]

The flu killed 50 million people in a single year after WW I. Are you going to tell me that breathing is a sin?

Prior to vaccinations and modern medicine, 50% of children died before the age of 3, and 10% of pregnances resulted in the death of the mother. By your twisted logic, heterosexuality has been punished far worse over decades.

I didn't get your point... who said punished. The consequences of our behaviors are what I was talking about. Are you suggesting that there should not be any morals? what does the flu have to do with my post?

The fact is everyone dies of something, the death rate will always be 100%

Never mind, your as unreasonable as the rest of them... I'm unsubscribing to this thread.

 

[GenetoJean]

Unless loudmouth condones beastiality as well, then his posts are hypocritical.

Dont give me that animal abuse crap either. Dogs will try to hump anything from people to inanimate objects. If a woman were to submit to that and enjoy it (as well as the dog) then what harm is being done?[\quote]

No, dogs cant give consent. That is a fact and is not using the eww factor.

What about a 45 year old man who is attracted to a 14 year old girl? What if shes also attracted to him? What if they get married when shes legal and stay married happily until death do they part? If they truly loved each other then what harm was done?

If the age of consent in that state is above 14 then a 14 year old can not legally consent. That is a fact and is not using eww factor.

These are the same type of disgusting arguments pro gay activist would use if they were fighting for and defending other sexual immoralities. If you have objections to these scenarios then youre going to have to do better than "eww thats wrong!" Yeah its obviously wrong and just like every other sexual immorality. So what makes homosexuality any better?

Apparently it is the fundamental Christians who are using those disgusting arguments because it is the fundamental Christians who keep bringing them up. I am not going to mention homosexuality itself since it is against forum rules.

 

[Nani-Day]

Going around in circles at this point. Im not on a keyboard so I cant keep this up. Im praying for you dude.

Btw nobody here is trying to condemn people with same sex attractions but we will call out the immoral acts that many homosexuals participate in for as long as you keep trying to get people to accept it. Im not giving heterosexuals a free pass either. As i said in another topic, I feel that fornication and divorce are much bigger issues that need to be dealt with first.

If you wanna answer those questions now then check the scenarios I gave you in my first post. See if you can answer without bias or some emotionally charged response about how homosexuality is any better than beastiality, or any other unnatural attraction.

 

[Nani-Day]

Why would anyone answer such a post... its obviously entirely ignorant. Comparing homosexuality to beastiality is like comparing it to pedophilia.
Why not compare it to adultery? or the desire to look at porn? Both national pastimes for heterosexuals.
Compare the sin of one group with a similar sin of another.... don't just reach for what you find appalling.

Your ignorance and political correct attitude both disgust and amazes me, but im not gonna argue with you over something you refuse to accept.

 

[RBPerry]

The flu killed 50 million people in a single year after WW I. Are you going to tell me that breathing is a sin?

How many of those had HIV virus, we have no way of knowing. So lets deal with today's issues where we do know. You are not going to get the answers or response you want here so why not just drop it. Actually your attempt to manipulate are getting rather boring.

 

[Loudmouth]

Your ignorance and political correct attitude both disgust and amazes me, but im not gonna argue with you over something you refuse to accept.

Why does it disgust you that homosexuals be treated the same under the law?

 

[Loudmouth]

How many of those had HIV virus, we have no way of knowing. So lets deal with today's issues where we do know. You are not going to get the answers or response you want here so why not just drop it. Actually your attempt to manipulate are getting rather boring.

How about the fact that the vast majority of new HIV infections in Africa are through heterosexual sex?

What bout the fact that the transmission of HIV between female sex partners is well below that of even heterosexuals?

How do you deal with those facts?

 

[Loudmouth]

Btw nobody here is trying to condemn people with same sex attractions but we will call out the immoral acts that many homosexuals participate in for as long as you keep trying to get people to accept it.

You say that nobody is codemning it, and then you condemn it.

If you wanna answer those questions now then check the scenarios I gave you in my first post. See if you can answer without bias or some emotionally charged response about how homosexuality is any better than beastiality, or any other unnatural attraction.

Homosexuality is better than bestiality for the same exact reasons that heterosexuality is better than bestiality.

 

[GenetoJean]

Going around in circles at this point. Im not on a keyboard so I cant keep this up. Im praying for you dude.

Btw nobody here is trying to condemn people with same sex attractions but we will call out the immoral acts that many homosexuals participate in for as long as you keep trying to get people to accept it. Im not giving heterosexuals a free pass either. As i said in another topic, I feel that fornication and divorce are much bigger issues that need to be dealt with first.

If you wanna answer those questions now then check the scenarios I gave you in my first post. See if you can answer without bias or some emotionally charged response about how homosexuality is any better than beastiality, or any other unnatural attraction.

I will go back to your first post and reread the questions and try to answer them. Of course in my opinion, I wont be using bias but in your opinion you will probably think I am.

Edited to add: I did answer your first post and, like I predicted, I dont see any bias. That is what I honestly think of consent. Also as I predicted, you felt I did show bias because I didnt come up with the same answer you did.

 

[Nani-Day]

Unless loudmouth condones beastiality as well, then his posts are hypocritical.

Dont give me that animal abuse crap either. Dogs will try to hump anything from people to inanimate objects. If a woman were to submit to that and enjoy it (as well as the dog) then what harm is being done?[\quote]

No, dogs cant give consent. That is a fact and is not using the eww factor.

If the age of consent in that state is above 14 then a 14 year old can not legally consent. That is a fact and is not using eww factor.



Apparently it is the fundamental Christians who are using those disgusting arguments because it is the fundamental Christians who keep bringing them up. I am not going to mention homosexuality itself since it is against forum rules.

Im not talking about laws or whats legal, and accptable in your mind. Obviously these relationships and acts would be hidden from the public eye just like how homosexuality was illegal and hidden. Like I said if they stay together and marry when shes 18, then whats the harm?

Also when a dog mounts you everytime youre turned over...then yeah thats "consent" enough in my eyes. Actions speak louder than words.

 

[Nani-Day]

You say that nobody is codemning it, and then you condemn it.



Homosexuality is better than bestiality for the same exact reasons that heterosexuality is better than bestiality.

Heterosexuality is normal and healthy, so no its not.

 

[Nani-Day]

I will go back to your first post and reread the questions and try to answer them. Of course in my opinion, I wont be using bias but in your opinion you will probably think I am.

Edited to add: I did answer your first post and, like I predicted, I dont see any bias. That is what I honestly think of consent. Also as I predicted, you felt I did show bias because I didnt come up with the same answer you did.

This post wasnt for you gene.

 

[Nani-Day]

Okay my fingers are destroying this touch screen. Lord's will ill be back later.

 

[Loudmouth]

Heterosexuality is normal and healthy, so no its not.

Sorry, but we are going to need more than your say so.

 

[GenetoJean]

Im not talking about laws or whats legal, and accptable in your mind. Obviously these relationships and acts would be hidden from the public eye just like how homosexuality was illegal and hidden. Like I said if they stay together and marry when shes 18, then whats the harm?

Also when a dog mounts you everytime youre turned over...then yeah thats "consent" enough in my eyes. Actions speak louder than words.

If they get married when she turns 18 and then the world finds out about it, would be a tough call for me. I would look down on the person probably but would probably try to just have as little dealings with them as possible.

 

[RBPerry]

How about the fact that the vast majority of new HIV infections in Africa are through heterosexual sex?

HIV is rampant in Africa, mainly among the black population. It is also a fact that many are bi sexual so that is understandable. So what is the point?

What bout the fact that the transmission of HIV between female sex partners is well below that of even heterosexuals?

Female homosexual normally have fewer sexual partners than male. Also most don't participate in some of the sexual practices that is prevalent in the male homosexual community.

Bottom line it isn't acceptable behavior in the Christian community, you are on a Christian forum and you should try to respect our right to believe as we do. If you think you are going to rewrite Christian ethics your wrong.