Homosexuality

[Floatingaxe]

God also hates it when we lust after someone, we commit adultery, He hates anger, since that's like murdering someone in your heart, God hates ALL sin. All sins are abominations before the Lord, which is why we must repent of ALL our sins. If a practicing homosexual comes before Christ and doesn't repent of that, then it calls into question if they've repented at all, simple as that. If they repent, backslide into practicing again, they need to lay it before God and pray for His guidance, but in those situations they're still Christians, God still loves them, He won't condemn someone already in Christ no matter what they do. But it does Him no service if they continue to live in a sinful lifestyle, especially if they go around saying He's ok with it. Which He isn't. So the practicing unrepentant have a lake of fire to fear, and the practicing repentant have some explaining to do.

Good stuff! Plain truth...

 

[Bro.T]

Good stuff! Plain truth...

Well, you're right the Lord give people room to repent, and hopfully
people repent in a respectfull time.

Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (MAtthew 24:46-51)

Drinking is not a sin people, its getting drunken, lets not forget Jesus
turn water into wine.

Now when if comes to anger, the Lord gives us room for that, as well.

Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: Neither give place to the devil. (Ephesians 4:26,27)

peace in Jesus name

 

[SoundCard]

Well, you're right the Lord give people room to repent, and hopfully
people repent in a respectfull time.

Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (MAtthew 24:46-51)

Drinking is not a sin people, its getting drunken, lets not forget Jesus
turn water into wine.

Now when if comes to anger, the Lord gives us room for that, as well.

Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: Neither give place to the devil. (Ephesians 4:26,27)

peace in Jesus name

Tanzel, I'm going to tell you this one last time, and one last time only, and after that I'm done arguing this point with you.

NOTHING CAN TAKE THOSE WHO ARE IN JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD OUT OF HIM. Not sin, not failing to keep the law which you so urge people to do, nothing, nada, nothing on this Earth or in Heaven will take us from God's hand. Once with Christ, always. Non negotiable. Non loseable.

Romans 8:38-39 NIV

38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[m] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[Bro.T]

Tanzel, I'm going to tell you this one last time, and one last time only, and after that I'm done arguing this point with you.

NOTHING CAN TAKE THOSE WHO ARE IN JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD CAN BE TAKEN OUT OF IT. Not sin, not failing to keep the law which you so urge people to do, nothing, nada, nothing on this Earth or in Heaven will take us from God's hand. Once with Christ, always. Non negotiable. Non loseable.

Romans 8:38-39 NIV

38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[m] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

I believe some where down the line, you going to understand which law was nail to the cross, unfortunately it takes more time for some people. I left you at your peace with your believe, and you come on the Homosexual thread, telling me I'm taking people away from christ, and
the Bible don't even support your believe. I bring people to christ, I
bring forth the uncut word of God, so people can have a great opportunity
for salvation, I talk with scripture and verses, you just talking. I don't
go around telling people not to listen to you, because that not my job.
I let people make that decission for themselfs, like the Lord do.

I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: 30:20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them. (Deuteronomy 30:19,20)

Some people want the truth and some want to hear a beautiful story,
I'm the type of person that tells people the truth. I underline that
part to show that Jesus was quoting Moses in... Mark 12:33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. This sound like the
animal sacrifical Law to me. Lets take another look at what Jesus said
concerning the Law....

Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me? (John 7:19) This is what you trying to do to
me, coming on this thread.

peace in Jesus name

 

[Floatingaxe]

Tanzel, I'm going to tell you this one last time, and one last time only, and after that I'm done arguing this point with you.

NOTHING CAN TAKE THOSE WHO ARE IN JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD CAN BE TAKEN OUT OF IT. Not sin, not failing to keep the law which you so urge people to do, nothing, nada, nothing on this Earth or in Heaven will take us from God's hand. Once with Christ, always. Non negotiable. Non loseable.

Romans 8:38-39 NIV

38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[m] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

WELL! This is incongruent with your post #79, for which I repped you.

Care to explain?

 

[Floatingaxe]

Double post...

 

[SoundCard]

My apologies, I got a bit heated for a moment and mistyped. I meant to say nothing can take those who are in Christ out of Him. Once we are saved nothing can take it away was my point, my apologies again if I misrepresented that point.

 

[Bro.T]

My apologies, I got a bit heated for a moment and mistyped. I meant to say nothing can take those who are in Christ out of Him. Once we are saved nothing can take it away was my point, my apologies again if I misrepresented that point.

peace in Jesus name

 

[hiumble1]

I think at times we can focus too much on one branch.

There is a whole bunch of branches (sin) to call out... Some focus too much on the branch of Homosexuality... to the point that most people will sanctify the branch and say they were born that way [Is there a Gay Gen? http://www.narth.com/docs/istheregene.html]

You will hear people give this statement "love the sinner hate the sin" which is not in the Bible. Ghandi said it.
We can not separate the sinner from the sin (only those who are saved by the redeeming Blood of Christ will have their sin covered by His Blood).
When an unsaved person stands before in judgement he will have both him and his sin cast into the lake of fire.
Lies, Theivery, adultry, lust, etc...
And when we say we can not judge? wow..... Jesus did say to judge, but not in appearance but in righteousness.
Also when we say we can't judge, we do it every day! left turn right turn, Lays potato chips or cost cutter brand, Citgo or BP.... Knowing the difference between Jeffrey Dahmer and Mother Theresa. He also said you will know a falso teacher by their fruits (sorry, but will have to judge good fruit from bad fruit).
We are not to condemn (or in essence stone)...
But what you do when you explain things to people with regards to sin is to do it in such a way that you explain it as a mirror that they must look at to see themselves as God sees them GUILTY.
people are quick to throw out the "let him who is without sin throw the 1st stone" this has to with condeming and not to judgement...
There are 2 distinctive camps believers and unbelievers (2 lines: Goats and Sheep). Some believe in the once saved always saved: which tends to be a license to sin... If you are truly sorry and are beggin forgiveness you will do the offensive act NO More. [otherwise you are just sorry you got caught]

 

[Floatingaxe]

Tanzel, I'm going to tell you this one last time, and one last time only, and after that I'm done arguing this point with you.

NOTHING CAN TAKE THOSE WHO ARE IN JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD OUT OF HIM. Not sin, not failing to keep the law which you so urge people to do, nothing, nada, nothing on this Earth or in Heaven will take us from God's hand. Once with Christ, always. Non negotiable. Non loseable.

Romans 8:38-39 NIV

38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[m] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Where does it say sin cannot take someone out of the hand of Jesus? Anyone who would fall so desperately into sin would not be a born again person to begin with.


1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.


None of the above are believers. God's Word is the standard. There is no excuse not to know this stuff this side of Judgment Day.

 

[SoundCard]

Where does it say sin cannot take someone out of the hand of Jesus? Anyone who would fall so desperately into sin would not be a born again person to begin with.


1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.


None of the above are believers. God's Word is the standard. There is no excuse not to know this stuff this side of Judgment Day.

Right, those who are classified as such aren't in Christ, but those in Christ are no longer seen as the sinners they once were, are they? So what happens if someone becomes backslidden once under the mantle of Christ? Will all of a sudden His actions on the Cross be nullified? Of course not! Paul even talks about those who have lived such lives:

1 Corinthians 3:10-15 NIV

10By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should be careful how he builds. 11For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. 14If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. 15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.

The works of a Christian who lives a life of sin will be tested by fire and burnt up as Paul tells us right here. The person sins, the works are destroyed, but the person themselves is spared that, because they are SAVED. Sin has NO power over Christ. Christ has conquered it. Those in Christ are spared it even if they do horrible things, but they shouldn't be doing them at any stretch of the imagination, but quite frankly what you're purporting here of the idea that salvation can be lost and Christ's work undone is nothing short of lunacy.

 

[Wade Smith]

Typical condemnation of another sinner who sins appear to be 'bigger' than yours. You would be surprised how many homosexuals that know the Lord, very surprised. Don't assume just because of an outward sign that they have not been touched by the hand of God and that he is not in the process of sanctifying them. But, most people would not know that or even believe because their close-minds and legalistic attitudes won't allow for it.

No no.

"Holiness" is not "legalism".


"Legalism" is trying to earn righteousness through keeping ceremonial laws.

"Holiness" is being obedient to the Word of God when he says, "Thou shalt not..." and "come out from among them and be ye holy for I am HOLY."


You rightly say the Lord can touch anyone.

However, "Faith without works is dead."


Homosexuality, in particular, IS a worse sin than most others. The fact is, sins DO have "degrees" in the Bible, and some are punishable by death, while others are not.

Homosexuality was certainly one of those punishable by death.


It represents a complete perversion of covenant relationship, and as well, a complete perversion and rebellion against God's natural order AND against God's salvation plan for the church.


Marriage is between a man and a woman, because the man typifies Christ and the woman typifies the believer.


As Jesus said to Nicodemus, "If I have told you natural things and you do not understand, how will you understand if I tell you Spiritual things?"


Jesus can save the soul of a homosexual.

However, that homosexual must REPENT (turn away from his sin,) and believe the Gospel.

 

[Wade Smith]

quite frankly what you're purporting here of the idea that salvation can be lost and Christ's work undone is nothing short of lunacy.

That is another debate, but no it isn't lunacy.


We are saved through faith in Jesus Christ and his work on the cross, and I might quickly add, continuing in faith in Jesus Christ and his work on the cross, and nothing else.


Read Paul's parable of the olive tree in Romans. Also read Peter's writings, in which he clearly talks about people losing their salvation. "falling from their steadfastness", "dog returning to its vomit", "sow returning to wallow in the mire". Paul: "if God spared not the natural branches take heed lest he spare not thee also."


And Paul also said in Romans 6.

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we who are dead unto sin live any longer therein?"


Paul is here addressing the notion of "license", which is the idea that, "since Christ 'paid it all' we can do anything we want and still be saved and justified."

Paul says, "God forbid."

James says, "Show me your faith by your works." and "Faith without works is dead."


"Justification by faith," however, If a person has no good works, or has nothing but evil works, then they aren't saved. They are an imposter. "Faith without works is dead."

and Repentance is the most important work of all, because without repentance one cannot be saved.

Jesus said, "REPENT and believe the Gospel." He did not merely say, "believe the gospel," because, "The devils believe also and tremble."


Even the devil "believes" the gospel. He simply doesn't care.

 

[SoundCard]

Why do people assume I'm trying to say that it's acceptable to repent in Christ then go about sinning? That's not the point I'm trying to make at all, what I AM trying to say is even if a believer does sin for the rest of their lives it won't separate them from God, but as I've said in other topics, it does God no service, and as Christians here I'm expecting you know what it means when I say service to God.

 

[timamin]

Leviticus 18:22 'You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It
is an abomination.
Leviticus 18:23 'Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile
yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to
mate with it. It is perversion.

Leviticus 20:13 'If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be
put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not
inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither
fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor
sodomites,
1 Corinthians 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor
revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[Bro.T]

No no.

"Holiness" is not "legalism".


"Legalism" is trying to earn righteousness through keeping ceremonial laws.

"Holiness" is being obedient to the Word of God when he says, "Thou shalt not..." and "come out from among them and be ye holy for I am HOLY."


You rightly say the Lord can touch anyone.

However, "Faith without works is dead."


Homosexuality, in particular, IS a worse sin than most others. The fact is, sins DO have "degrees" in the Bible, and some are punishable by death, while others are not.

Homosexuality was certainly one of those punishable by death.


It represents a complete perversion of covenant relationship, and as well, a complete perversion and rebellion against God's natural order AND against God's salvation plan for the church.


Marriage is between a man and a woman, because the man typifies Christ and the woman typifies the believer.


As Jesus said to Nicodemus, "If I have told you natural things and you do not understand, how will you understand if I tell you Spiritual things?"


Jesus can save the soul of a homosexual.

However, that homosexual must REPENT (turn away from his sin,) and believe the Gospel.

That was said good, thanks for putting some understanding on the table.

peace in Jesus name

 

[SoundCard]

This is going to be a long one.

First and foremost, I am going to keep saying this until someone finally hears me!

When it talks about the adulterer, the liar, the sorcerer, the homosexual, not inheriting the Kingdom of God, it is talking about those who are NOT in Jesus Christ. Those who are NOT saved. Those who ARE saved are NO LONGER those things. We are righteous IN CHRIST. WE ARE SAVED IN CHRIST. We are made righteous by the power of Jesus Christ and by the power of Jesus Christ alone.

Observing the laws of Moses does nothing but make people stumble, because it was by that old covenant that sin was made aware, but even then the promise to Abraham came BEFORE THE LAW WAS EVEN KNOWN. Faith was at work before Moses, sin was at work before the law of the letter. Works were before the law! Works are living our faith! Faith comes by belief! Salvation comes by belief! Repentance comes from belief! It is not repent then come before the Cross is it!? Has it ever been?! I think not! It is and always has been come before the Cross and then repentance shall come! The work of salvation comes to us when we put our BELIEF in Christ. Not when we put our works of the law into action! Not when we choose to follow a Sabbath, not when we choose refrain from eating certain foods, works do not beget faith! Faith begets work! Works without faith is fruitless, and faith without works is dead, but those who have faith will find plenty of works at their hands!

NO ONE HAS THE POWER TO TAKE THOSE WHO ARE SAVED, MADE RIGHTEOUS IN CHRIST, OUT OF THAT SALVATION. NO SIN, NO ACTION BY MAN SHALL EVER OVERPOWER THE WORK OF THE CROSS. IT IS COMPLETE, IT IS ETERNAL, IT IS FOREVER.

We are saved through faith in Jesus Christ and his work on the cross, and I might quickly add, continuing in faith in Jesus Christ and his work on the cross, and nothing else.


Read Paul's parable of the olive tree in Romans. Also read Peter's writings, in which he clearly talks about people losing their salvation. "falling from their steadfastness", "dog returning to its vomit", "sow returning to wallow in the mire". Paul: "if God spared not the natural branches take heed lest he spare not thee also."

First, let's address Paul talking about the olive tree, since you seem to lump several verses together.

Romans 11:17-24 NIV

"17If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in." 20Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
22Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!"

You say this is talking about salvation. That someone can lose it, yet however we see over in Hebrews...

Hebrews 9:23-28 NIV

"23It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24For Christ did not enter a man-made sanctuary that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God's presence. 25Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26Then Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But now he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him."

Ok, since Christ didn't die multiple times for multiple sins, but once for all sin, then all sins we've ever committed or ever would commit were paid for on the Cross. So with that in mind, it becomes clear that Paul IS NOT talking about salvation there! So what then is he talking about? He is talking about those who are in Christ who act in an unholy way will not be subject to God's grace or mercy in events resulting from their inequity. Though should that person return from their sin, God will accept them and they will enter His good graces again. That, however, does not mean their salvation has become moot, far from it.

Why is that? Becauuuuuuse...

Romans 8:1-4 NIV

"1Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,[a] 2because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature,[b] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering.[c] And so he condemned sin in sinful man,[d] 4in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit."

Therefore stop telling people their salvation is at risk! God is a good Lord who will keep His own. They will be disciplined for their actions, for the Lord is also a Father to us now. Now, as for your bit about Peter talking about that...

2 Peter 2:1-

"1But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping."

Peter is NOT talking about Christians losing their salvation! He is talking CLEARLY about those who call themselves Christians who are in fact wolves in sheeps clothing, deceivers and liars, who will be punished for their trespasses!

People, I'm not trying to cause problems here, I'm wanting people to see the truth that is evident in scripture itself. All I'm doing here is retelling what I have read. You're right about the fact we shouldn't go on and do whatever we want as far as sin goes, but as far as things as what we call Holy days or what we eat, don't worry about that. That's between the person and God, it is a matter of faith. The written code is done away with, but the law of the Spirit is in effect. Sin is still sin. Those who betray their nature by giving into their temptations will fall, and fall hard. Only in Christ will they ever be able to stand again, and even then He will not abandon them. In their lowest moments they will remember Him. Even if they die from their actions, Christ will not abandon them for it. It then falls back to what Paul said. Their works will be caught up in fire, but they themselves shall survive. So let's stop spreading the ideas of legalism, or that Christians can be abandoned by God, because quite simply, it is unBiblical, and unChristian.

Peace and Love in Christ our Holy Lord.

 

[Bro.T]

I think at times we can focus too much on one branch.

There is a whole bunch of branches (sin) to call out... Some focus too much on the branch of Homosexuality... to the point that most people will sanctify the branch and say they were born that way [Is there a Gay Gen? http://www.narth.com/docs/istheregene.html]

You will hear people give this statement "love the sinner hate the sin" which is not in the Bible. Ghandi said it.
We can not separate the sinner from the sin (only those who are saved by the redeeming Blood of Christ will have their sin covered by His Blood).
When an unsaved person stands before in judgement he will have both him and his sin cast into the lake of fire.
Lies, Theivery, adultry, lust, etc...
And when we say we can not judge? wow..... Jesus did say to judge, but not in appearance but in righteousness.
Also when we say we can't judge, we do it every day! left turn right turn, Lays potato chips or cost cutter brand, Citgo or BP.... Knowing the difference between Jeffrey Dahmer and Mother Theresa. He also said you will know a falso teacher by their fruits (sorry, but will have to judge good fruit from bad fruit).
We are not to condemn (or in essence stone)...
But what you do when you explain things to people with regards to sin is to do it in such a way that you explain it as a mirror that they must look at to see themselves as God sees them GUILTY.
people are quick to throw out the "let him who is without sin throw the 1st stone" this has to with condeming and not to judgement...
There are 2 distinctive camps believers and unbelievers (2 lines: Goats and Sheep). Some believe in the once saved always saved: which tends to be a license to sin... If you are truly sorry and are beggin forgiveness you will do the offensive act NO More. [otherwise you are just sorry you got caught]

Praise the Lord, I thank you for putting Good Understanding, on the table.

peace in Jesus name

 

[SoundCard]

Praise the Lord, I thank you for putting Good Understanding, on the table.

peace in Jesus name

If I have spoken a lie then prove me wrong here! If what I say is untrue then show me the error of my ways people! If I speak against the Lord above then reprove me of my actions, but I am convinced what I say is truth, because I give you the answers from His book of truth! I'm not referring to the Pope, or John Calvin, or anyone of that nature, from God's own Holy Book I am telling you these things, so if I am wrong, then show me the error of my ways!

 

[Bro.T]

You have to pray, but the things is, you have to know how to pray.
I'm going to tell you exactly what to do.

When you pray, ask the Father for understanding in his word, in the name of Jesus .

Lets get an example...After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. in Jesus name Amen. (Matthew 6:9-13)

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.(Matthew 6:6,7)

And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13,14)

But keep this in mind...He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination. (Proverbs 28:9)

peace in Jesus name