Homeopathy - a good thing?

What is homeopathy

  • Placebo and harmless

  • Occultic and harmful

  • Beneficial and to be encouraged for Christians

  • Beneficial but Christians shoud not take it


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tickingclocker

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For the most part I don't believe homeopathy is useful. Certainly other alternative treatments can be excellent including herbalist medicine. Homeopathy seems to be a load of rubbish although not harmful unless someone takes the unhealthy approach of ignoring all other forms of treatment.
Not all herbs have the same strength. No one can look at them and determine the levels either. One plant might be stronger, the next one to it weak. Both look equally healthy. Who officially tests this stuff before its manufactured and distributed? What do labels say? Which are considered the most effective best brands--for what conditions? And what level of natural chemicals does your particular body need? That can only be determined by ongoing blood tests and a medical doctor interpreting the results. I wouldn't want a chiropractor handing me herbal supplements to help eliminate a brain tumor. Christian or Atheist. If they aim at the broad side of a barn, naturally they will hit some small portion of it... and declare success? I prefer my doctors be extremely precise and demand all-around exactness, myself. Their muddling through medical school is NOT going to reveal itself through me. That is for sure.

My opinion is, there's too many variables within the homeopathic arena for anything more than a few muscle sprains from working in the yard or spring cleaning, after a sedentary winter spent on the couch watching Dirty Jobs reruns.
 
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My mother nearly killed herself by taking mega-doses of various, self-prescribed vitamins and herbs. I don't think there's any occult involved in her (ab)use of these substances but they are definitely dangerous.
 
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Not all herbs have the same strength. No one can look at them and determine the levels either. One plant might be stronger, the next one to it weak. Both look equally healthy. Who officially tests this stuff before its manufactured and distributed? What do labels say? Which are considered the most effective best brands--for what conditions? And what level of natural chemicals does your particular body need? That can only be determined by ongoing blood tests and a medical doctor interpreting the results. I wouldn't want a chiropractor handing me herbal supplements to help eliminate a brain tumor. Christian or Atheist. If they aim at the broad side of a barn, naturally they will hit some small portion of it... and declare success? I prefer my doctors be extremely precise and demand all-around exactness, myself. Their muddling through medical school is NOT going to reveal itself through me. That is for sure.

My opinion is, there's too many variables within the homeopathic arena for anything more than a few muscle sprains from working in the yard or spring cleaning, after a sedentary winter spent on the couch watching Dirty Jobs reruns.
Would you consider the advice of a Chiropractor who uses the full spectrum of tests from blood, urine, stool and hair analysis to prescribe pharmaceutical grade potent formulas researched to be effective in the treatment of restoring the body to health? I am a Chiropractor who is doing just that at Lab Analysis Nutrition https://labanalysisnutrition.acuityscheduling.com I can do it all over the internet and never see the patient.
 
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Would you consider the advice of a Chiropractor who uses the full spectrum of tests from blood, urine, stool and hair analysis to prescribe pharmaceutical grade potent formulas researched to be effective in the treatment of restoring the body to health? I am a Chiropractor who is doing just that at Lab Analysis Nutrition https://labanalysisnutrition.acuityscheduling.com I can do it all over the internet and never see the patient.
No. A chiropractor is not on the level of a licensed medical physician. I mean no offense, but I prefer the best medical specialists out there when something critical may be or is wrong with me. I wouldn't go to a dermatologist for my vision, nor would I go to a urologist for a skin problem. Why would I go to someone who manipulates my muscles and bones for a problem with my liver or with an ingrown toenail?

There are reasons why a body is not in good health. If the reason is known and able to be treated with herbs, there are times when they might help. Personally, I wouldn't take the chance with my health. I knew two women who died from taking Ephedra for weight loss. It damaged their hearts so severely they died. Both were refused as candidates for heart transplants because of other conditions. If they hadn't taken Ephedra they would still be overweight, but would also still be alive today. I don't wish to be remembered by as "who knew"? Would you?

I also prefer to look my doctors in the eye, and they me. One caught the early onset of a condition BY looking me in the eye once! You cannot do that over the internet.
 
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No. A chiropractor is not on the level of a licensed medical physician. I mean no offense, but I prefer the best medical specialists out there when something critical may be or is wrong with me. I wouldn't go to a dermatologist for my vision, nor would I go to a urologist for a skin problem. Why would I go to someone who manipulates my muscles and bones for a problem with my liver or with an ingrown toenail?

There are reasons why a body is not in good health. If the reason is known and able to be treated with herbs, there are times when they might help. Personally, I wouldn't take the chance with my health. I knew two women who died from taking Ephedra for weight loss. It damaged their hearts so severely they died. Both were refused as candidates for heart transplants because of other conditions. If they hadn't taken Ephedra they would still be overweight, but would also still be alive today. I don't wish to be remembered by as "who knew"? Would you?

I also prefer to look my doctors in the eye, and they me. One caught the early onset of a condition BY looking me in the eye once! You cannot do that over the internet.
Did you know I have had more education hours before I graduated than your general practitioner because not only do I learn the medical field but my field also. That is why I am listed as a primary care physician with the health insurance.
 
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I also prefer to look my doctors in the eye, and they me. One caught the early onset of a condition BY looking me in the eye once! You cannot do that over the internet.
You started out stating it was all the diagnostic testing that made the medical doctors superior. Then when I stated I can also do all the diagnostic testing, and advise you with the supplements that would improve your health and not treat symptoms or worse kill you with poisons all the while stating it is the only choice.

Did you know that the statin medication will cause you body to deteriorate into a diabetic condition? That is why within the first year on blood pressure medications, the doctor will state you are pre-diabetic. Then after a few more years, full blown diabetic, you are besides still having high blood pressure problems. Once on statin medication, always on it. It is artificially forcing lower blood pressure but not addressing the problem that caused it. I could go on and on with examples of the deceptions of medication and the health hazards they create.

So while you think radiation and chemo therapy is the answer. Let me tell you what I learned at the medical symposium on oncology. A neurosurgeon spoke on the decisions he has to make on patients who have had cancer, gone through the treatment, were five years in remission, and back with a full blown through body case of cancer. It was a given that seven years later all patients will have the full blown case of untreatable cancer. He was more concerned as to whether surgery on cancered bones would be worth it for the patient because it may or may not alleviate some of the pain they were going through. He knew that it would only be a matter of time before they died.

Here is what is really happening, the chem radiation permeates the body and eats away long after the treatment is over. So while the original cancer seems to be gone, the poison deteriorates the body during its remission period. It flares back up after seven years of being declared cancer free. So I ask you, was the patient really saved by chem/radiation?
 
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Did you know I have had more education hours before I graduated than your general practitioner because not only do I learn the medical field but my field also. That is why I am listed as a primary care physician with the health insurance.
No. How could I? Yet that info wouldn't change my mind. You are not a licensed physician. You are a Chiropractor.

I wish you well.
 
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You started out stating it was all the diagnostic testing that made the medical doctors superior. Then when I stated I can also do all the diagnostic testing, and advise you with the supplements that would improve your health and not treat symptoms or worse kill you with poisons all the while stating it is the only choice.

Did you know that the statin medication will cause you body to deteriorate into a diabetic condition? That is why within the first year on blood pressure medications, the doctor will state you are pre-diabetic. Then after a few more years, full blown diabetic, you are besides still having high blood pressure problems. Once on statin medication, always on it. It is artificially forcing lower blood pressure but not addressing the problem that caused it. I could go on and on with examples of the deceptions of medication and the health hazards they create.

So while you think radiation and chemo therapy is the answer. Let me tell you what I learned at the medical symposium on oncology. A neurosurgeon spoke on the decisions he has to make on patients who have had cancer, gone through the treatment, were five years in remission, and back with a full blown through body case of cancer. It was a given that seven years later all patients will have the full blown case of untreatable cancer. He was more concerned as to whether surgery on cancered bones would be worth it for the patient because it may or may not alleviate some of the pain they were going through. He knew that it would only be a matter of time before they died.

Here is what is really happening, the chem radiation permeates the body and eats away long after the treatment is over. So while the original cancer seems to be gone, the poison deteriorates the body during its remission period. It flares back up after seven years of being declared cancer free. So I ask you, was the patient really saved by chem/radiation?

A doctor would be aware of these things as well. You can test samples for levels, but a Chiropractor cannot interpret them to diagnose except under certain strict conditions (at least in my state). Only a licensed physician can diagnose by law in most US states.

I wouldn't know about cancer or radiation. I'm sure the person with cancer who is still alive because of radiation eight years later remains very grateful to their doctors and treatment.

You sound like a caring person and a great Chiropractor, however, I would not trust my health to anyone but a licensed physician, and the best one for the job at that. My own PCP knows when there is something critical wrong with my health, he automatically sends me to the best specialists. He recognizes some things are simply beyond even his expertise. In fact, he goes to specialists for his medical problems as well. I wish you well in your endeavors. God bless.
 
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I prefer my doctors be extremely precise and demand all-around exactness, myself.
Well if you ever find a doctor who can let me know. If you think your current doctor can then you don't know the truth. Truth is that in a study they may examine 1000 people and see that in most of them there is a benefit. However it will not work for all. So how do you tell if it works? The truth is you can't. A friend of mine was debating me on this. He comes from a family of doctors and even think physiotherapists are questionable. I asked how can you tell if I was taking enough medication or not. While there are blood tests all they actually know is there is an acceptable range. Being in that acceptable range does not mean you are taking the right amount of medication. You could be taking too much or too little. My friend responded by asking if I felt it was effective. My reesponse was simple. No more effective than the four years I wasn't taking it!

The interesting thing about this medication is that when I was younger they took me off it because it was deemed to not be working. I was having seizures every 18 months. Doctors including specialists who said either the medication wasn't working and I just had seizures at that frequency or every 18 months or that every 18 months something happened to change my threshold and I had a seizure. I asked how to determine which it was and the answer was there is no way to tell. Both options were unlikely in terms of the frequency.

Add in to that how they determine the dosage in the first place. They make an educated guess based on known factors such as weigh and height. Then they do a blood test and look at results and adjust it accordingly. The other thing is if they increase the dosage by say 50mg in one person it could cause them to go off the chart the other way or it could cause a very slight increase. That is for people of similar weight & height.

Finally add in how the medication is slowly destroying my liver. Many meds from GP's will either destroy your liver or kidneys.
 
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So while you think radiation and chemo therapy is the answer. Let me tell you what I learned at the medical symposium on oncology. A neurosurgeon spoke on the decisions he has to make on patients who have had cancer, gone through the treatment, were five years in remission, and back with a full blown through body case of cancer. It was a given that seven years later all patients will have the full blown case of untreatable cancer. He was more concerned as to whether surgery on cancered bones would be worth it for the patient because it may or may not alleviate some of the pain they were going through. He knew that it would only be a matter of time before they died.
Perhaps you can explain that to the many cancer patients who have lived over ten years after going into full remission (yes I am aware full remission is not zero). Sorry but you have just lost credibility by not doing your research on claims made. Clearly this guy had an agenda or it was so long ago that you are out of date.. Either way not worth trusting.
 
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Well if you ever find a doctor who can let me know. If you think your current doctor can then you don't know the truth. Truth is that in a study they may examine 1000 people and see that in most of them there is a benefit. However it will not work for all. So how do you tell if it works? The truth is you can't. A friend of mine was debating me on this. He comes from a family of doctors and even think physiotherapists are questionable. I asked how can you tell if I was taking enough medication or not. While there are blood tests all they actually know is there is an acceptable range. Being in that acceptable range does not mean you are taking the right amount of medication. You could be taking too much or too little. My friend responded by asking if I felt it was effective. My reesponse was simple. No more effective than the four years I wasn't taking it!

The interesting thing about this medication is that when I was younger they took me off it because it was deemed to not be working. I was having seizures every 18 months. Doctors including specialists who said either the medication wasn't working and I just had seizures at that frequency or every 18 months or that every 18 months something happened to change my threshold and I had a seizure. I asked how to determine which it was and the answer was there is no way to tell. Both options were unlikely in terms of the frequency.

Add in to that how they determine the dosage in the first place. They make an educated guess based on known factors such as weigh and height. Then they do a blood test and look at results and adjust it accordingly. The other thing is if they increase the dosage by say 50mg in one person it could cause them to go off the chart the other way or it could cause a very slight increase. That is for people of similar weight & height.

Finally add in how the medication is slowly destroying my liver. Many meds from GP's will either destroy your liver or kidneys.
The specialist I went to see the time I did require meds did blood testing before dosing, but that was based on the condition. It wasn't life-threatening in its early stages. That's why he's the best specialist in his field, and well-known for being precise and extremely thorough. Sometimes doctors can tell what dosage is needed with certain diseases and conditions, others not so much. Epilepsy is one of those where they cannot, unfortunately. (Not saying you have it, its just one where they must gage doses. Epilepsy is not a disease, but a medical condition with many variables.)

And I agree with you re: cancer survivors. Everyone's body is different, every case is different. Even doctors are different. Who would go to a doctor who's patients die more often than not? He may know stats only by comparing his own patients! Regardless, I would want the best expert guess there is if that's the best way medical science has to work. Wouldn't you? That, and much prayer. Never rule that out. The Lord beats the absolute best doctor every time.

I am sorry you had to go through what you did. It's never easy.
 
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What do we think of homeopathy?

On youtube you can find debate on this.

(Dawkins despises it)

I've just and shingles and I have taken some Rhus Tox for 2 reasons.
I've finished the week's course of allopathic antibiotic and antiviral drugs and am still suffering the continuing (fortunately mild) effects of the shingles on my face. (earache and jaw ache). So why not take the homeopathic stuff? After all it's a sugar pill isn't it?
The second reasons is that it was given me by a caring retired chiropractor at church (good evangelical guy) along with B-vitamins.

But i have formed my opinion of the medicine after a week.

But what do you think?

See a skin specialist to reduce the scarring.
Never stop at one doctor. I went through
5 doctors before I got a correct diagnosis.
 
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No. How could I? Yet that info wouldn't change my mind. You are not a licensed physician. You are a Chiropractor.

I wish you well.
Seriously.... I am a "licensed primary care physician" and that is the Federal and State government official title for Chiropractors across the US.
 
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My mother nearly killed herself by taking mega-doses of various, self-prescribed vitamins and herbs. I don't think there's any occult involved in her (ab)use of these substances but they are definitely dangerous.
Like water ? (People have died from drinking water, too much) So water is dangerous ?

Compare: Take 3 to 12 of any tablet, do you call for medical help ?

Take a handful of M&M's , do you call for medical help ?
 
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Hey there, that's a great question. There are actually many ways to "Natural remedy for menstrual cramps"I found a video on Youtube that explains a few simple ways on how to cure-Natural remedy for menstrual cramps.
I've tried many different ways to cure this. Here's a link to a video that some great tips.

EARN4FUN

Click on that link above and once you land on the page,,click where it says "I AM NOT A ROBOT" and then you click the "Get Link" after redirected to the youtube video that shows how to cure Natural remedy for menstrual cramps.
For you, did one or more ways work ? (for thousands of years, some ways have worked, some ways have not worked)
 
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