"Hitler was right about the jews" flag on Arizona bridge

[NxNW]

No one 'established' that the National Socialist German Workers Party was not socialist.

I guess you must have missed my prior post with several links establishing that very fact.

 

[prosperity4all]

Neo-Nazi Paul Dunleavy sentenced to detention for preparing acts of terrorism

Neo-Nazi sentenced to detention for preparing neo-Nazi acts of terrorism

Neo-Nazi Harry Vaughan sentenced on 14 terror offences

Harry Vaughan: Neo-Nazi sentenced

Neo-Nazi Richard Holzer pleads guilty to bomb synagogue

Man described as neo-Nazi pleads guilty to Colorado synagogue bomb plot

 

[OldWiseGuy]

is USA Politics becoming more right wing now? because

neo nazis get arrested for putting "Hitler was right about the jews" flag on Arizona bridge

4 men suspected of hanging ‘Hitler was right about the jews" flag on Arizona bridge arrested for trespassing

4 men arrested for hanging ‘Hitler Was Right about the jews" flag on bridge in Arizona

4 men arrested for hanging 'Hitler Was Right about the jews" flag on bridge in Arizona - Jewish Telegraphic Agency

Four men arrested for hanging ‘Hitler Was Right about the jews" flag on bridge in US


why do people think the holocaust is hoax?


because

I don't understand

someone please explain





and



why did adolf hitler feel strong desire to kill all the Jewish people in the world?




and






why have Neo Nazis become totally obsessed with killing all the Jewish people in the world now? because



more and more violent attacks on jewish people now because of Anti-Semitism

Perhaps it's prophetic.

 

[Thomas White]

Ah, yet another person who thinks Hitler was a right winger!
For your information, Hitler and his Nazi Party were all socialists. The clue is in the Nazi name. The National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party
As can be seen, the Nazis were all socialist worker, but since the war, in order to whitewash western socialist parties, the media has gone overboard in labelling the Nazis as right wing instead of left!
Hitler was always a Fascist, as was his Axis pal, Mussolini. Mussolini started off as a communist before he developed his own version of left wing politics calling it Fascism!

Whether Hitler or Mussolini, their Fascist parties specialised in thuggery to get their political power.
Sadly, in yet another inversion of truth, one of the worst examples of fascism today is ANTIFA, a so called anti Fascist group whose activities are modelled precisely on the Fascist parties of Europe from the 40s.

Next in line for todays Fascist activity is of course BLM who again model the 1940s fascism to force their opinion on the country.

What is the definition of facism?

 

[prosperity4all]

63% of US Jews Encountered Anti-Semitism Over Last 5 Years

Survey: 63% of US Jews Encountered Anti-Semitism Over Last 5 Years

 

[Robban]

So whats new?

It just does not go away.

Strange as it may seem, in the words of the late Rebbe M.M.Schneerson of righteous memory;

"Only deeds of goodness and kindness can change the world."

 

[FireDragon76]

Complete nonsense their policies were never right wing but invariably socialist of one sort or another.

Here's Hitler himself expounding socialism-
“National Socialism derives from each of the two camps the pure idea that characterizes it, national resolution from bourgeois tradition; vital, creative socialism from the teaching of Marxism.” – January 27, 1934, interview with Hanns Johst in Frankforter Volksblatt

“There is a difference between the theoretical knowledge of socialism and the practical life of socialism. People are not born socialists, but must first be taught how to become them.” – October 5, 1937, speech in Berlin

“In those countries, it is actually capital that rules; that is, nothing more than a clique of a few hundred men who possess untold wealth and, as a consequence of the peculiar structure of their national life, are more or less independent and free. They say: ‘Here we have liberty.’ By this they mean, above all, an uncontrolled economy, and by an uncontrolled economy, the freedom not only to acquire capital but to make absolutely free use of it. That means freedom from national control or control by the people both in the acquisition of capital and in its employment. This is really what they mean when they speak of liberty. These capitalists create their own press and then speak of the ‘freedom of the press.’ In reality, every one of the newspapers has a master, and in every case this master is the capitalist, the owner. This master, not the editor, is the one who directs the policy of the paper. If the editor tries to write other than what suits the master, he is ousted the next day. This press, which is the absolutely submissive and characterless slave of the owners, molds public opinion. Yes, certainly, we jeopardize the liberty to profiteer at the expense of the community, and, if necessary, we even abolish it.” – December 10, 1940, speech in Berlin

“Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism.” – August 15, 1920, speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus.

“Because it seems inseparable from the social idea and we do not believe that there could ever exist a state with lasting inner health if it is not built on internal social justice, and so we have joined forces with this knowledge.” – August 15, 1920, speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus

“We must on principle free ourselves from any class standpoint.” – April 12, 1922, speech in Munich

“There are no such things as classes: they cannot be. … here there can be no class, here there can be only a single people and beyond that nothing else.” – April 12, 1922, speech in Munich


“To put it quite clearly: we have an economic program. Point 13 in that program demands the nationalization of all public companies, in other words socialization, or what is known here as socialism. … the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me? Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals anymore; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.” – May 4, 1931, interview with Richard Breiting

“What they hate is the Germany which sets a dangerous example for them, this social Germany. It is the Germany of a social labor legislation which they already hated before the World War and which they still hate today. It is the Germany of social welfare, of social equality, of the elimination of class differences—this is what they hate! They hate this Germany which in the course of seven years has labored to afford its Volksgenossen a decent life. They hate this Germany which has eliminated unemployment, which, in spite of all their wealth, they have not been able to eliminate. This Germany which grants its laborers decent housing—this is what they hate because they have a feeling their own peoples could be ‘infected’ thereby. They hate this Germany of social legislation, this Germany which celebrates the first of May as the day of honest labor.” – May 8, 1939, speech “Party Comrades! My German Volksgenossen!” at the Bürgerbräukeller in Munich

“Is there a nobler or more excellent kind of Socialism and is there a truer form of Democracy than this National Socialism which is so organized that through it each one among the millions of German boys is given the possibility of finding his way to the highest office in the nation, should it please Providence to come to his aid?” – January 30, 1937, On National Socialism and World Relations speech in the German Reichstag

Of course Hitler denied class as a legitimate category of social critique. The far-right always does. This just shows how little you understand the subject, that you think that quote somehow supports your spurious logic.

The "socialism" in National Socialism was about solidarity and mass organization of society, but not around class, but race and nation. Fascists borrowed the mass-organizational techniques of the labor movement, but that doesn't mean they were "left wing".

 

[FireDragon76]

LOL. Okay, it came as news to you.

But it's easy to research even if you've missed the reports of events as they've happened. None of this is some kind of conspiracy theory or hidden knowledge.

Opinion | Anti-Semitism Is Flourishing On The Left. Why Does No One Care?

Normalizing Anti-Semitism in the US

If antisemitism is flourishing on the left, please explain why so many intellectuals that are popular on the American left, like Noam Chomsky or Richard Wolfe, are Jewish?

 

[Robban]

Always be walking through the splitting of the sea.

Always be leaving the slavery of Egypt, never say,
"I am this."

And the Israelites walked on the dry land within the sea,
and the water was a wall for them,
to their right and to their left.
(Exodus 14:29)

 

[Albion]

If antisemitism is flourishing on the left, please explain why so many intellectuals that are popular on the American left, like Noam Chomsky or Richard Wolfe, are Jewish?

Because "the left" is a term that refers to a fairly large range of political views.

Included among them are the people you referred to but also there's an alarming and apparently increasing number of anti-Semites.

When these also include members of Congress and they are powerful enough in Democratic Party circles that even someone like Nancy Pelosi thinks she'd better not take them on...you know there's a problem.

 

[FireDragon76]

Because "the left" is a term that refers to a fairly large range of political views.

Included among them are the people you referred to but also there's an alarming and apparently increasing number of anti-Semites.

When these also include members of Congress and they are powerful enough in Democratic Party circles that even someone like Nancy Pelosi thinks she'd better not take them on...you know there's a problem.

I think I know who you are talking about, but you are mischaracterizing the situation. Ilhan Omar was rebuked for her remarks, and she doesn't represent a particularly powerful group of Democrats.

Secondly, most Democrats are not "the Left". Nancy Pelosi is a centrist conservative, her politics are not remotely of the Left. There are few national politicians that are left-of-center Democrats. Perhaps only Tulsi Gabbard fits the bill. Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat, neither is Ocasio-Cortez. They merely caucas with the Democrats in Congress.

 

[Albion]

I think I know who you are talking about, but you are mischaracterizing the situation. Ilhan Omar was rebuked for her remarks, and she doesn't represent a particularly powerful group of Democrats.

Unfortunately, these most often cited examples of the problem represent only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to anti-Semitism in politics, academia, and so on.

As for the "power" of the Ilhan Omar et al segment of the Party, it cannot be negligible like you want us to believe it is when Nancy Pelosi attempted to pass a simple motion of censure against anti-Semitism, but wasn't able to muster the votes among the Democrats in the House of Representatives to accomplish even that much.

Rank-and-file Dems revolt against Pelosi over resolution to condemn anti-Semitism | Fox News

 

[FireDragon76]

Unfortunately, these most often cited examples of the problem represent only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to anti-Semitism in politics, academia, and so on.

Evidence? If you're going to make an extraordinary claim, you'ld better have extraordinary proof.

Being opposed to, or critical of Zionism or religious fanaticism isn't the same as anti-Semitism (after all, plenty of Jews in the US aren't particularly religious or politically engaged with Israel). Anti-Semitism is contepmt for Jews as a people, not a particular form of politics or religion.

 

[FireDragon76]

Unfortunately, these most often cited examples of the problem represent only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to anti-Semitism in politics, academia, and so on.

As for the "power" of the Ilhan Omar et al segment of the Party, it cannot be negligible like you want us to believe it is when Nancy Pelosi attempted to pass a simple motion of censure against anti-Semitism, but not including naming any names, and wasn't able to muster the votes among the Democrats in the House of Representatives to accomplish even that much.

What Omar said wasn't necessarily intended to be anti-Semitic and Pelosi wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt, while at the same time making clear the Democrat leadership's stance on anti-Semitism.

It's called nuance. Perhaps Republicans don't understand how that works, judging by history that seems to be the case.

 

[Albion]

Being opposed to, or critical of Zionism or religious fanaticism isn't the same as anti-Semitism (after all, plenty of Jews in the US aren't particularly religious or politically engaged with Israel). Anti-Semitism is contepmt for Jews as a people, not a particular form of politics or religion.

But being opposed to unlimited and unsupervised immigration is "racist?" And using sheet music is supposedly a tribute to "white supremacy."

The double-think coming from one side of the political spectrum these days is stunning.

 

[FireDragon76]

I'm a nobody so words don't count much.
But here's Merriam Webster.-
Definition of socialism
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Obviously Hitler only did some of these, but most modern socialist regimes pick and choose what socialism means to them.

Hitler wasn't commited to collective ownership of the economy of Germany, and certainly wasn't opposed to private property rights in general. Nazi Germany was an industrial oligarchy, not that different from other western countries in terms of its economics. Social programs to benefit a perceived racial group is not "Socialism".

 

[FireDragon76]

But being opposed to unlimited and unsupervised immigration is "racist?"

That's a straw man of the far right.

 

[Albion]

I'm a nobody so words don't count much.
But here's Merriam Webster.-
Definition of socialism
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Obviously Hitler only did some of these, but most modern socialist regimes pick and choose what socialism means to them.

You're right about that. Unfortunately, these three points are what dictionaries customarily do with any tricky term--they give all the possible uses of the word. Not all of them apply to every example of that word, however.

National Socialism, i.e. Naziism, does control all means of production like other forms of Socialism do. With Naziism and its cousin, Fascism, it simply is not considered necessary for the regime to own everything so long as it has absolute power to control it.

 

[Albion]

That's a straw man of the far right.

Oh right. The idea of an open border allowing just about anyone to cross it, including terrorists and child traffickers, and take up residency in the USA is a myth of the "far right." What's more, open borders was never advocated during the recent presidential election, nor has anything like that been happening since. I suppose that explains why illegal immigrants like to show signs saying that Biden invited them.

The Border Guards who have testified to the crisis on the border must therefore be lying, the videos of people crossing unchallenged are phony, the children in Biden's cages are not real, and so on. Yeh, riiiiiiiight.

 

[CuriousPagan]

Pure evil. Disgusting.