Hillary Clinton calls for "Formal Deprogramming" of Trump supporters

[USincognito]

I could word for word restate your comments above, but switch Trump and Biden and be as honest and truthful about my opinion as you are about yours.

No, you couldn't. Tell you what, give me one example of President Biden exhibiting narcissism.

That is the beauty and power of this nation. We can be complete polar opposites politically, but live side by side.

Only one side has been calling for civil war or a "national divorce".

The main difference is I don’t think Biden supporters need to be reprogrammed.

Good thing Secretary Clinton wasn't talking about all Donald supporters.

I Also have personal issue with a man who showers with his pubescent daughter against her will.

Slander based on a fake entry inserted into a stolen diary.

 

[USincognito]

I have personal issue with a man who brags about quid pro quo's,

Why are we still having to correct this lie in October 2023? Shokin was fired as part of U.S. policy towards Ukraine. There was no quid pro quo.

who lies to the public repeatedly about knowing his sons businesses',

We have yet to see any evidence that he did. Devon Archer certainly didn't provide any.

who influence peddles to the tune of millions of dollars,

Why have yet to see any evidence that he did. The SARs certainly don't provide any.

who stores national records in his garage oh, my list could go on also....

The President wasn't "storing" "national records". The dozen or so documents he had were of such little consequence that NARA wasn't even looking for them.

 

[Belk]

She said MAGA supporters. That is essentially all Trump voters. If that is not what she meant, she should have clarified.
But I suspect that is exactly what she meant. You know, all the "deplorables."

First off, that is not what she claimed. Secondly to try to equate everyone who voted for Trump as a MAGA supporter is to WAY overestimate Trump's die hard fans.

 

[Aldebaran]

First off, that is not what she claimed. Secondly to try to equate everyone who voted for Trump as a MAGA supporter is to WAY overestimate Trump's die hard fans.

Let's see: Trump's slogan is Make America Great Again. That's what MAGA means. So, when a citizen votes for Trump, are they not supporting MAGA, thereby making them a "MAGA supporter"?

 

[FenderTL5]

You know, all the "deplorables."

She didn't say "all" were deplorable either.
She said what she said, it was ill advised and detrimental to her cause, but she never said all were deplorable.


fwiw, based on what I've seen and read, she wasn't wrong.

 

[Belk]

Let's see: Trump's slogan is Make America Great Again. That's what MAGA means. So, when a citizen votes for Trump, are they not supporting MAGA, thereby making them a "MAGA supporter"?

You want me to repeat myself? Ok. To try to equate everyone who voted for Trump as a MAGA supporter is to WAY overestimate Trump's die hard fans.

 

[FenderTL5]

..to equate everyone who voted for Trump as a MAGA supporter is to WAY overestimate Trump's die hard fans.

100% agree.
There's a significant number of GOP supporters, conservatives, who held their nose and voted Trump simply because he was the nominee.
We've read that exact sentiment on these forums, a lot.
otoh, the die hard supporters.. yeah, whatever.

 

[Aldebaran]

You want me to repeat myself? Ok. To try to equate everyone who voted for Trump as a MAGA supporter is to WAY overestimate Trump's die hard fans.

The most sincere form of support for a candidate is to vote for them.

 

[Belk]

The most sincere form of support for a candidate is to vote for them.

You don't need to convince me that your desperately want to expand these remarks to all Trump voters. I fully believe that is the aim.

 

[USincognito]

Why are fixated on that? I didn't hear hillary mention it, so why do you?

I'm not "fixated" on anything. I'm trying to help the confused members here understand to whom Sec. Clinton was referring.

I could use a dozen other examples.
- people who thought there was a basement sex dungeon in Comet Ping Pong where children were abused.
- people who think everyone corrupt except for Donald and he's the only one who can save America.
- people who think Donald is being politically persecuted because "they" hate him.
- people who want a civil war if Donald isn't reelected.
- people who think that JFK will is still alive and will return to being Donald's vice president.

 

[Pommer]

Nice “washed up, has-been politician won’t shut up (already!)” thread.

 

[durangodawood]

Formal doesnt mean forced. So long as there's no coercion, her proposal is completely reasonable given the cultish vortex swirling around DT.

 

[DaisyDay]

Trump is wrong in saying that it is you (followers) that is hated and not him. It is him. He is just saying that to get sympathy. That is all.

Trump is heavily disliked for his own behavior and attitudes and words. He is a womanizer who committed adultery repeatedly, and the words of that Entertainment tonight episode are not such a surprise (the grab them by the privates comment). Trump was recently found liable for sexual assault. Most in New York already saw trrough him. He wasn't a great business man as he claimed.

How many bankruptcies did he have? 6? Including casinos? There is a reason US banks stopped loaning to him.
Trump was known not to pay fully for work done for him. He has a history of fraud; thinkof the Trump University and the Trump Foundation.
The Trump organization was found liable for tax fraud. And the judge of his current trial in NYC already found that he committed fraud and the trial now is for recompense purposes.

Then there was his obnoxious behavior regarding Obama's birth certificate, which came of as racism. His full page ad about the Central Park Five didn't age well as they were all vindicated. Then there is the "lock her up" chant which was new low for American politics. More dictator type of behavior than democratic. His speech was violent in his rallies and seemed to bring out the worst in people ( "knock the crap out of them"). He also said he would pay the legal fees for his followers if they did that - but he didn't .

I will never see why people believe in a man who committs fraud, committs adultery, lies, fails to pay bills and dupes others, and who has a fondness for dictators and strong arm policies. I think that his return to the presidency would cause the end of democracy in the US. Nothing he has said makes me think differently.

You forgot that he called for Gen. Milley to be executed for treason.

Gen. Mark Milley Says He Has Taken 'Measures' to Protect Family After Trump Suggests He Should be Executed

Trump, who is running in the 2024 presidential race, claimed Milley would have faced death "in times gone by" for communicating with a Chinese general during the former president's tenure.

www.military.com

 

[DaisyDay]

Do they want to put you in re-education camps? Hillary has said so a few times now.

Has she actually said that more than once? You all act like she made a formal declaration on the behalf of the Democratic Party rather than an off the cuff joke.

Just because you keep hearing it repeated doesn't mean she said it more than the one time, just that many report it.

 

[Aldebaran]

You don't need to convince me that your desperately want to expand these remarks to all Trump voters. I fully believe that is the aim.

Hillary already made it clear she meant voters. Voting is supporting.

 

[DaisyDay]

Hilary did not suggest any sort of camp.

Yes, it was Karoline Leavitt who said that.

 

[Aldebaran]

I'm not "fixated" on anything. I'm trying to help the confused members here understand to whom Sec. Clinton was referring.

I could use a dozen other examples.
- people who thought there was a basement sex dungeon in Comet Ping Pong where children were abused.
- people who think everyone corrupt except for Donald and he's the only one who can save America.
- people who think Donald is being politically persecuted because "they" hate him.
- people who want a civil war if Donald isn't reelected.
- people who think that JFK will is still alive and will return to being Donald's vice president.

Use as many as you want. However, it was H. Clinton, and not you, in that interview.

 

[DaisyDay]

So, we are just going to ignore her statements?
"Nothing to see here, she really did not say it, and if she did she did not really mean it. Nobody pays any attention to her anyway. Besides Trumpites deserve what they get. Did you hear what he did last week? So just forget what she said and stick to the narrative. Let's talk about something else now."

I suggest that you try to understand what Clinton actually meant by what she said rather than give in to anger and fear.

 

[comana]

Hillary already made it clear she meant voters. Voting is supporting.

Where did she make that clear? It wasn’t”t in the interview being discussed where she made clear she was referring to MAGA cult.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Should we look at just addressing our opponents by deprograming? No, It is not called for. Nor can it be done. All we can do is keep putting the truth out there and hope that it sinks in.

Thank you.
That was easy!