High riser and shooting high

[MForbes]

I’m out of this conversation.

IMO, the more we start depending on AI, the stupider the human race is going get.

 

[AlexB23]

I’m out of this conversation. Go ahead and use AI.

IMO, the more we start depending on AI, the stupider the human race is going get.

I agree, 100%. My job almost forced me to use ChatGPT AI, even if my job duties do not require it, so I told them no. Not everything can be automated though. However, AI can be useful in niche scenarios, but I still trust humans more. TikTok and maybe even AI have made humanity fall. Also, AI is awful at math, so I never use it for math, unless I want to test it, and most of the times, AI fails.

 

[MForbes]

Unqualified, if you really want me to break this down in an easy to understand manner, just let me know. I’ll need some info, though.

 

[Unqualified]

Yeah, try my suggestion first, then ask Perplexity AI. If all else fails, listen to @MForbes' suggestion about Burris Optics inserts, as he has been using guns for twice the time I have existed on Earth. And hey, target practice is good for hand-eye coordination.

yeah it’s good. Thank you for seeing this through. It was a great thread, and thanks to all who participated.

 

[AlexB23]

yeah it’s good. Thank you for seeing this through. It was a great thread, and thanks to all who participated.

You are welcome. Can you give us on the forum an update on how the gun performs after you adjust the scope?

 

[Unqualified]

Sure. But to tell you the truth I may be going a different route. I’m having the bolt fixed. Then all these troubles will be gone. Just decided this evening. It was so far out I don’t see how .011 could fix it. It was so tall I couldn’t hold it straight up and down. Lost cheek weld and the look was awkward. I designed it myself and it wasn’t functional enough. I kept asking God, He told me the bolt long before castboolits forum. Changes the look of the gun, but it’s the best solution after drilling it for scope. Smoother more saleable, I’m going to keep it, not buying anymore guns in ca. I do appreciate the help before I knew what to do. Exploring and getting practical without spending too much money.

Prove me wrong @MForbes , Mr Forbes, make it simple. I’m willing to listen. We are now having a hot spell so I won’t be getting to the range soon. Only there could I test your theory Mr @AlexB23 you can be sure I’ll test it before I sell all the parts. Thanks again.

 

[AlexB23]

Sure. But to tell you the truth I may be going a different route. I’m having the bolt fixed. Then all these troubles will be gone. Just decided this evening. It was so far out I don’t see how .011 could fix it. It was so tall I couldn’t hold it straight up and down. Lost cheek weld and the look was awkward. I designed it myself and it wasn’t functional enough. I kept asking God, He told me the bolt long before castboolits forum. Changes the look of the gun, but it’s the best solution after drilling it for scope. Smoother more saleable, I’m going to keep it, not buying anymore guns in ca. I do appreciate the help before I knew what to do. Exploring and getting practical without spending too much money.

Prove me wrong @MForbes , Mr Forbes, make it simple. I’m willing to listen. We are now having a hot spell so I won’t be getting to the range soon. Only there could I test your theory Mr @AlexB23 you can be sure I’ll test it before I sell all the parts. Thanks again.

Good idea. So, you will go ahead and pay the gunsmith instead? Try my theory once the weather cools off as well, and also ask Mr. Forbes. Honestly, go with Mr. Forbes' idea first, as he knows a lot more than I do. My city had a heatwave a few days ago in Wisconsin, 90+ degrees F last week for roughly three days.

 

[Unqualified]

Today’s the last day of spring. This week 95-100. The zee rings will help the scope sit well in uneven rings. They could help one side or the other go up up to .020. So they might work. But I have to get them to a place where a fine adjustment will work. It’s a good idea I just don’t want to spend anymore money on rings. I’m going to the source of the problem.

is it humid there in Wisconsin?

Good idea. So, you will go ahead and pay the gunsmith instead? Try my theory once the weather cools off as well, and also ask Mr. Forbes. Honestly, go with Mr. Forbes' idea first, as he knows a lot more than I do. My city had a heatwave a few days ago in Wisconsin, 90+ degrees F last week for roughly three days.

 

[AlexB23]

Today’s the last day of spring. This week 95-100. The zee rings will help the scope sit well in uneven rings. They could help one side or the other go up up to .020. So they might work. But I have to get them to a place where a fine adjustment will work. It’s a good idea I just don’t want to spend anymore money on rings. I’m going to the source of the problem.

is it humid there in Wisconsin?

Right now, it is raining, but it does get humid sometimes, though not as much as states to the south. I am glad that you are going to the source of the problem. Once the heatwave ends, I look forward to the results at your gun range.

 

[Unqualified]

Yes, it is hot out. That will give me sometime to work in doors. Im thinking I will be w/o a bolt for a couple of weeks.
we probably won’t get any rain for another five months, except a little in august. Ahem. There have been fires around. But places with summer rain don’t get many.

 

[AlexB23]

Yes, it is hot out. That will give me sometime to work in doors. Im thinking I will be w/o a bolt for a couple of weeks.
we probably won’t get any rain for another five months, except a little in august. Ahem. There have been fires around. But places with summer rain don’t get many.

California sounds like a perpetual apocalypse. The state is always burning, it seems. Beautiful state though, as my parents and I went to Yosemite, and a few forests in California in September 2023.

 

[Unqualified]

It was calm for about 50 years before 2018. It’s part of a regular cycle in chaparral to burn Wildly. That’s why I pray for cooler temperatures and early rain. Turns out we are getting about seven days of 100s, but this is summer and hot already. It’s an early summer.

 

[AlexB23]

It was calm for about 50 years before 2018. It’s part of a regular cycle in chaparral to burn Wildly. That’s why I pray for cooler temperatures and early rain. Turns out we are getting about seven days of 100s, but this is summer and hot already. It’s an early summer.

Dang man, seems that you will not have a chance to test out your rifle, cos of this hot weather. I will pray for cooler weather and rain for you. Seems that climate change, along with other factors is making California so hot. Hopefully, we can get cleaner energy down there in Cali.

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Quote from Conservative Energy Network: "Republicans have a proud environmental legacy, epitomized by Theodore Roosevelt’s commitment to land and wildlife conservation in the early 1900s. Conservative scholars, such as those at the Property and Environment Research Center, were at the forefront of market-based solutions to fishery depletion, biodiversity loss, land degradation, water scarcity and pollution. President Ronald Reagan signed the Montreal Protocol to resolve ozone layer depletion, which former UN secretary-general Kofi Annan called 'perhaps the single most successful international agreement to date.'"

 

[Unqualified]

Yeah and the UV INDEX IS GETTING UP TO 10-11 everyday - extreme.

 

[AlexB23]

Yeah and the UV INDEX IS GETTING UP TO 10-11 everyday - extreme.

Dang, that sounds awful. Glad I am not under a heat dome or under high UV index either right now. Be careful, and stay inside for a while until this passes.

 

[Unqualified]

Mausers have such a long action and bolt. The way my scope is made there is not much room for it to move in the rings. So I wonder now if it will be set back enough toward the shooter fo r him to be within the eye relief. The previous riser had enough room in back to go beyond the base rail quite a ways- about two inches. I might have another problem. Not only that but when using a rifle rest I will be back farther so a good sight picture may not be possible. The bolt will be low enough but maybe an extended ring back might work. I just love shopping for this stuff for when I have money. There’s so much good different stuff out there for special projects. I always find what I’m thinking at the time and often cheap too.

one of those cantilever mounts put on backwards for a start.

 

[AlexB23]

Mausers have such a long action and bolt. The way my scope is made there is not much room for it to move in the rings. So I wonder now if it will be set back enough toward the shooter fo r him to be within the eye relief. The previous riser had enough room in back to go beyond the base rail quite a ways- about two inches. I might have another problem. Not only that but when using a rifle rest I will be back farther so a good sight picture may not be possible. The bolt will be low enough but maybe an extended ring back might work. I just love shopping for this stuff for when I have money. There’s so much good different stuff out there for special projects. I always find what I’m thinking at the time and often cheap too.

one of those cantilever mounts put on backwards for a start.

I hope that this hobby goes well. Maybe, go back to a different brand of riser, or use a form of tripod or a rest for your rifle. First, fix the backwards cantilever mount, and then you can move on from there. Also, if you bring the gun to a gun shop, you can ask the store owner for some helpful tips. He/she might be open enough to provide insight (pun intended) to help you find the parts you need.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

The Pic / Weaver rail on your Rifle, could it by chance be a 20 or 30 MOA rail for long range target shooting? This would account for shooting high.

Also your mount seems to be way more elaborate than is needed. I have two mausers with scopes. One is a quick detach German side mount on a 9.3 x 62, the other is on a Zastava M70 sporter with two piece weaver mounts and low weaver rings. Scopes need only to be high enough to clear the bolt handle; they may be mounted higher for specific types of shooting.

Is it possible that you mount (the part with ge rings, is some sort of a long range set up.

Below is the Zastava.

I am in the process of building and tuning a long range rimfire presently; it required medium rings to clear the fairly large Riton scope. It is a CZ455 Supermatch in an MDT Oryx Chassis.

Here is the 9.3 Husqvarna with commercial FN 98 Mauser Action.

Try and keep things as simple as possible.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Could you lose the part I have circled and attach your rungs directly to the PIC rail? All the hardware can compound errors in alignment.

 

[Unqualified]

Yes that is exactly what I did. But I had to straighten the bolt handle first. It was about 1.25 high and that was the only part’ that would clear it. At least the coolest but it didn’t work. So now I’m on the rail, and that should work fine.

I used shims in the front ring and surprisingly that brought it down but not far enough. It’s was all compensating for the wrong bolt handle as I bought it with open 2 leaf sights.

Nice guns you have. I like the stock on the zastava, I bet it’s a shooter. Thanks for the reply. Been waiting for you.