High riser and shooting high

[Offline4Better.]

Sorry. Have never mounted a scope. Mostly used iron sights and aiming bead.

That is alright. And yes, you must have had great eyes and stuff for this. I know nothing about guns nor own any, but joined this thread to try my best, as I have basic knowledge about AI and physics, and guns use physics.

 

[Offline4Better.]

Gee, that was swell. So I joined perplexity, not sure about the other one. It’s a quick search and conclusions and got it straight in my mind, about sighting it in. Now it’s up to my scope to have enough adjustment. Which it may not. I put a shorter ring on the front to get me in the ball park. Going to take it to the range today and see. If this doesn’t work I’m a hafta sell it. Thanks for all your assistance and providing AI, and being a sound board. Even without knowledge you helped me. using AI makes me feel young and not rigid and hip. You’re all right.

it’s kinda lonely though using AI and not getting human help. A friendly one might be all a kid would need and then stay isolated, and grow up alone. Anyway…. It got 207 views. I guess no one could help. The answer to this question seems trustworthy.

Ooh, so the AI helped you? I am glad that it worked, so at least half the problem is solved. But yes, hopefully this works well for you. Also, if there are any other people at the range, you could always ask another gun owner for help with the scope adjustment. Who knows, you might make a friend at the range.

But yes, I do agree that over reliance on AI is a byproduct of isolation in the US. We need a balance between human interaction, and artificial intelligence.

 

[Unqualified]

Here is Qwen2 72B: Qwen2 72B Instruct - a Hugging Face Space by Qwen
Or Perplexity AI, which can search the internet, and compile the answer in a response: https://www.perplexity.ai/

Just copy and paste your OP into the lower text box, and omit any extraneous info such as "hello brothers and sisters", and the AI will try the best to answer your question. And yes, AI is interesting stuff. Don't rely on it for everything though.

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The sighting In part was ok but not on the paper, without firing a shot. How many millimeter shim under the front of the base would raise it up enough to make 8 inches at 100 yds or meters whatever is easiest. At2500fps, considering flat trajectory. Is this scientific enough?

 

[Offline4Better.]

The sighting In part was ok but not on the paper, without firing a shot. How many millimeter shim under the front of the base would raise it up enough to make 8 inches at 100 yds or meters whatever is easiest. At2500fps, considering flat trajectory. Is this scientific enough?

Ooh, this would take a while, but I will try my best.

 

[Offline4Better.]

Alright, we know that a minute of angle at 100 yds equates to 1.047 inches of height. So, that means we do not even need the speed, as we can assume the trajectory is flat.

So, 8 inches / 1.047 inches per minute of angle is = 7.641 minutes of angle = 0.127 degrees of angle. If you shoot high, you would have to raise the part of the scope underneath the front scope mount by 7.64 minutes of angle relative to your current setup.

Now, can you tell me the length between the shim and the scope mount opposite of the shim? Then, I can use some trigonometry to calculate how many mm of height for the shim based upon the angle.

 

[Unqualified]

.4 inch+ 1.6 inch+ .25 inch + .5 inch, to the center of the scope.

 

[Offline4Better.]

.4 inch+ 1.6 inch+ .25 inch + .5 inch, to the center of the scope.

And the scope is 4 inches long, as most scopes are?

 

[Unqualified]

And the scope is 4 inches long, as most scopes are?

No, no it’s 11.5 inches long. I wish they were only 4 inches, so much neater, but rare.

 

[Offline4Better.]

No, no it’s 11.5 inches long. I wish they were only 4 inches, so much neater, but rare.

11.5 inches from the first mount to the second mount? If so, then I can do the math shortly.

 

[Unqualified]

11.5 inches from the first mount to the second mount? If so, then I can do the math shortly.

Oh, about five inches.

 

[Offline4Better.]

Oh, about five inches.

I think that is what I need, which is the distance from the farthest mount to the shim, which should be 5 inches from what you told me.

 

[MForbes]

Buy some Burris Signature Zee rings. You can purchase inserts for these that will take care of your problem.

Signature Rings™ | Burris Optics

www.burrisoptics.com

 

[Offline4Better.]

Ok, assuming 5 inches from rear sight (the sight closest to your eye) and front sight (the sight closest to the barrel), you would have to raise the front sight about 0.011 inches, or 0.28 mm.

Math below:

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[Offline4Better.]

Buy some Burris Signature Zee rings. You can purchase inserts for these that will take care of your problem.

Signature Rings™ | Burris Optics

www.burrisoptics.com

@MForbes and @Unqualified , did I math right? MForbes, just as background info, I do not own any guns, but I am halfway decent at math, so I volunteered to help Unqualified with his iron scope, cos hunters have got to put food on the table, and a properly adjusted gun would help him with that.

Here is a sighting tutorial for Unqualified: Video: Sighting-In a Rifle

 

[MForbes]

@MForbes and @Unqualified , did I math right? MForbes, just as background info, I do not own any guns, but I am halfway decent at math, so I volunteered to help Unqualified with his iron scope, cos hunters have got to put food on the table, and a properly adjusted gun would help him with that.

Here is a sighting tutorial for Unqualified: Video: Sighting-In a Rifle

Alrighty then. I’ve been shooting for over 50 years now, so I figured I’d give him the easy way to fix the problem. Have fun with the math.

 

[Offline4Better.]

Alrighty then. I’ve been shooting for over 50 years now, so I figured I’d give him the easy way to fix the problem. Have fun with the math.

Haha, yeah, I have only shot for a few weeks at a summer camp in 2012 and 2013, and I did not like it that much, as the archery class was more interesting and was not loud (the cheap dollar store foam earplugs for riflery class sucked at camp). Hey, thank you for giving Unqualified the easier way. I am all mathed out for today.

What got you into shooting? Was it the deer or almost free food, or the target practice? I am only 24, so you have two lifetimes of experience in this area.

 

[MForbes]

What got you into shooting? Was it the deer or almost free food, or the target practice?

Both.

 

[Offline4Better.]

Both.

Nice. Also, fresh turkey can be hunted as well. My parents and I never hunted, cos it is too much work to skin a turkey or deer, and both my dad and I get grossed out by blood and organs.

 

[Unqualified]

Buy some Burris Signature Zee rings. You can purchase inserts for these that will take care of your problem.

Signature Rings™ | Burris Optics

www.burrisoptics.com

I’m not a hunter anymore. I’ll sure try your suggestion @AlexB23 . It would be a miracle. Should I see what perplexity thinks?

 

[Offline4Better.]

I’m not a hunter anymore. I’ll sure try your suggestion @AlexB23 . It would be a miracle. Should I see what perplexity thinks?

Yeah, try my suggestion first, then ask Perplexity AI. If all else fails, listen to @MForbes' suggestion about Burris Optics inserts, as he has been using guns for twice the time I have existed on Earth. And hey, target practice is good for hand-eye coordination.