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Her Past

What should be the main thing I should do to change my problem?

  • Just pray and forget about it?

  • Have a long talk about it and clear everything up?

  • Learn to not be so selfish and start figuring out what MY problem is?

  • Keep thinking about it until I get used to it?


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In this I don't know where to start. This will probably be more than you want to read.

I met this girl on a website called myspace, (I'm sure pretty much all of you have heard of it) in late 2004. I was attracted to how great she was in her faith. She sounded like a really powerful Christian. We became great friends and hit it off real well. Later, I began to drift off and not talk to her as much as I do with pretty much all my friends I meet online. This was during the beginning and through the summer of 2005. Later on, I started to talk to her again in about October. Then, we became something much more. I never realized how great she was and i never would have known how much she would help me.....I was really glad I started talking to her again. That was how we began and this is where the story begins.

As we got closer, we started to be more honest to each other. We shared everything with each other and realized how alike we were. Anyways, it got to the point where she finally decided to tell me something about her past. She told me that she wasn't a virgin. The first thing I wondered was if this was before she was a Christian (because she became a Christian only two and a half years ago and she is 16 years old)
She said no.
I asked when.
She told me it was earlier this summer...the summer of 2005.
(this was after I met her and during the time I wasn't talking to her)
I didn't understand. I didn't know why she would do that with someone. I didn't know what would make her do it.
She told me the story of how she met this guy on myspace that she was attracted to because he said he was a Christian. They became close in about a month and then he started pressuring her to do that with him. She told me in that time, she was weak and she had no friends to go to and all she wanted was to "be loved" so eventually, one night, she gave in. She told me that she was confused and that she wasn't very strong in her faith at that time. This completely crushed me.
I'm a very jealous person. I wasn't upset necessarily because it was wrong....but because I absolutely hated it that someone has been with her in that way and it wasn't me.

We talked about it and she told me specifics like…they pretty much had clothes on and the only thing they did was "the one thing" that makes you not a virgin. That helped me a little but I still had problems thinking about it. I hated that guy and I never met him. It wasn’t fare to me.
“Why does he get rewarded for being the poisonous, no good, hypocrite he is? He got something I’ve never had from her because he doesn’t know how to control himself and he caused a sister in Christ to stumble. It’s not fare at all.”

It didn’t end there either. She told me about other events from her past where she was really close (physically) with her ex-boyfriend. She said they though they loved each other which made them want to be close. She told me about how they did practically everything EXCEPT the one thing that makes you not a virgin, which means he has seen her in about every way. She told me about how they would lay in bed together without clothes on, and then they would get carried away from there. These were the thoughts that I absolutely hated. I didn’t know which guy to hate more.

She says that she was s different person in that time because she had only been a Christian a few months so she didn’t know very much. She says that I’ve helped her to become a better person and that’s why she hasn’t made those mistakes with me. I’m happy that she has become a better person. But I’m always tortured with these thoughts. Sometimes I think it’s the devil doing this. I always want to know more about what happened. I always want to know specifics because I want to if it’s better or worse than how I picture it happened. She really hates it that I can’t get over it. And she gets upset every time I mention it. She says she has mostly forgotten all of it and that it is not in her heart anymore, it’s not a bother anymore because she has been forgiven by God. Purity is exactly what I want in her mind. But I find it hard to believe that she forgot most of it. I would really love it if it could all be erased from her mind because when we are married, I really want it to be a new experience for her. No matter how far fetched it sounds.

What I want to know is: should I just try to forget it even though it’s so hard? Is this the devil just getting to me? Am I just being selfish? Should I just have a sit down with her, get out all of these things, put it all on the table and have her answer everything I’m wondering, no questions asked?<(that is what I think would really help) Or should I not mention it to her anymore because it just reminds her of the past she is trying to forget?
When we’re married, is it possible that she can clear her mind so much that it will be a new experience for her when we can share each other as man and wife?

Sometimes I feel the only way I will feel better is if she becomes closer to me than she was with either of them. But I know that this is just the devil. I know we are going to get married, and I hope I can get over this before then.

That is my little problem.

P.S I would really appreciate it if I had your prayer, whoever is reading this. I need it badly.
 

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xkeethx said:
In this I don't know where to start. This will probably be more than you want to read.

I met this girl on a website called myspace, (I'm sure pretty much all of you have heard of it) in late 2004. I was attracted to how great she was in her faith. She sounded like a really powerful Christian. We became great friends and hit it off real well. Later, I began to drift off and not talk to her as much as I do with pretty much all my friends I meet online. This was during the beginning and through the summer of 2005. Later on, I started to talk to her again in about October. Then, we became something much more. I never realized how great she was and i never would have known how much she would help me.....I was really glad I started talking to her again. That was how we began and this is where the story begins.

As we got closer, we started to be more honest to each other. We shared everything with each other and realized how alike we were. Anyways, it got to the point where she finally decided to tell me something about her past. She told me that she wasn't a virgin. The first thing I wondered was if this was before she was a Christian (because she became a Christian only two and a half years ago and she is 16 years old)
She said no.
I asked when.
She told me it was earlier this summer...the summer of 2005.
(this was after I met her and during the time I wasn't talking to her)
I didn't understand. I didn't know why she would do that with someone. I didn't know what would make her do it.
She told me the story of how she met this guy on myspace that she was attracted to because he said he was a Christian. They became close in about a month and then he started pressuring her to do that with him. She told me in that time, she was weak and she had no friends to go to and all she wanted was to "be loved" so eventually, one night, she gave in. She told me that she was confused and that she wasn't very strong in her faith at that time. This completely crushed me.
I'm a very jealous person. I wasn't upset necessarily because it was wrong....but because I absolutely hated it that someone has been with her in that way and it wasn't me.

We talked about it and she told me specifics like…they pretty much had clothes on and the only thing they did was "the one thing" that makes you not a virgin. That helped me a little but I still had problems thinking about it. I hated that guy and I never met him. It wasn’t fare to me.
“Why does he get rewarded for being the poisonous, no good, hypocrite he is? He got something I’ve never had from her because he doesn’t know how to control himself and he caused a sister in Christ to stumble. It’s not fare at all.”

It didn’t end there either. She told me about other events from her past where she was really close (physically) with her ex-boyfriend. She said they though they loved each other which made them want to be close. She told me about how they did practically everything EXCEPT the one thing that makes you not a virgin, which means he has seen her in about every way. She told me about how they would lay in bed together without clothes on, and then they would get carried away from there. These were the thoughts that I absolutely hated. I didn’t know which guy to hate more.

She says that she was s different person in that time because she had only been a Christian a few months so she didn’t know very much. She says that I’ve helped her to become a better person and that’s why she hasn’t made those mistakes with me. I’m happy that she has become a better person. But I’m always tortured with these thoughts. Sometimes I think it’s the devil doing this. I always want to know more about what happened. I always want to know specifics because I want to if it’s better or worse than how I picture it happened. She really hates it that I can’t get over it. And she gets upset every time I mention it. She says she has mostly forgotten all of it and that it is not in her heart anymore, it’s not a bother anymore because she has been forgiven by God. Purity is exactly what I want in her mind. But I find it hard to believe that she forgot most of it. I would really love it if it could all be erased from her mind because when we are married, I really want it to be a new experience for her. No matter how far fetched it sounds.

What I want to know is: should I just try to forget it even though it’s so hard? Is this the devil just getting to me? Am I just being selfish? Should I just have a sit down with her, get out all of these things, put it all on the table and have her answer everything I’m wondering, no questions asked?<(that is what I think would really help) Or should I not mention it to her anymore because it just reminds her of the past she is trying to forget?
When we’re married, is it possible that she can clear her mind so much that it will be a new experience for her when we can share each other as man and wife?

Sometimes I feel the only way I will feel better is if she becomes closer to me than she was with either of them. But I know that this is just the devil. I know we are going to get married, and I hope I can get over this before then.

That is my little problem.

P.S I would really appreciate it if I had your prayer, whoever is reading this. I need it badly.
I choose E, none of the above. Pray yes, but forgetting will prove to be very difficult. You have been hurt. The woman that you have saved yourself for (I'm assuming) has admitted that she did not save herself for you. But look at it this way. God has forgiven her, if she has truly repented (which it sounds like it may be true), and when God forgives, he washes away the sin as if it never happened. This is not to say that she is a virgin again, because virginity is something that can never be replaced, but rather she is pure once again in God's eyes. What happened, happened. There is no changing that, much as I'm sure she wants to. The question to be asked is, how has she lived her life after these incidences? If she has been loyal to you and has not crossed any boundaries, then she has changed and is no longer the person she once was. She has been made pure through Jesus. Look at her the way God sees her. Pray for the ability to do so. And if you just can't get past these feelings, you should have a heart-to-heart with her and lay everything on the table. If you still cannot reconcile these things in your mind after that, it may be time for the 2 of you to call it quits. But pray that you make the right decision. Good luck. God bless both of you.
 
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i say if you can tell that she has changed since these incidences then give her another chance. if she has truly repented then she is pure in God's eyes. honestly, i don't know what to tell you about getting all of the details about what happened. i think it would help me to know everything that happened. i'm big on being open and honest w/ my boyfriend and i wouldn't want any secrets kept from me. but if you think it would make you more upset to know the details then i don't know. and also, sex inside of marriage is so much better than outside of marriage with someone who you don't even love. so if this is the woman God wants you to marry, and if you do get married one day then you shouldn't worry about the fact that she's had sex with some other guy in her past because sex inside of marriage with the person you love is so much better anyway. and i don't think you are selfish. and it is possible that satan may be trying to come between you two. that happens a lot of times when you are with the person God has chosen for you. and i will pray for you. :prayer:
 
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If you love her you will forgive.
I believe people give the devil too much credit. We are all human, it is possible for any of us to be tempted, to be swayed by the words of others. This is especailly true when one has no acount ability. Most likly its a subjuct she will continue to struggle with up until the point she is married. This doesn't make her actions right, but they are certainly human. It is understandable also why you're hurt, why you feel cheated. If she is the one, if she is truly repentant, you should forgive and look to the future.
 
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I sadly can relate all too well. I don't think I'd be exagerating to say my girlfriend has a much more colourful past.

Take a read brother : http://www.christianforums.com/t3083508-feels-like-my-hearts-been-ripped-out.html

I wont say anything else about what I'm struggling with.. coz you can read it above...

My vote is to talk it out... I know all the finest details...
It WAS VERY PAINFUL.... but I am getting over it ... in the last week it has become less and less and issue in my mind.

I think its better to find out everything... that way you can DEAL WITH IT.

If you don't know.... you will always be wondering... always imagining... always have some doubt and you will find it hard to fully trust her.

I trust my girlfriend SO much. She told me everying. Stuff that I would never ever find out, some of which no other person knows. She felt that I deserved to know. That she would tell me that blew me away. It was VERY hard for her, but she loved me enough that she wanted to be 100% open and honest. Sure, I did almost pass out when she shared all her past, but in a sorta weird way that was a beautiful thing for her to do. She was worried I would think less of her for it, that I may just run away and dump her, but she let herself be vulnerable, and I don't know how to describe how that affected me. It was amazing to think that she actually cared about and trusted me so much that she would actually "reveal her soul" if you like.

So in a way despite all the heartache her past has caused (and may cause), laying it all out in the open really brought us together. She now knows that I really love her for her, despite her past, and I know that she loves me and trusts me for sharing it. I trust her and feel that I can share ANYTHING with her.

Ok I should go to bed now... :p sorry for the ramblings.
 
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I forgot to add.... Like others have said... sex outside of marriage is just the "fun" of the moment... but I am starting to understand that my girlfriend appreciates me so much more because I am different. She says (and I believe her) that just the thought of possibly marrying me,
is so much more amazing than having sex with some guy who is just trying to take what he can get. And I now have NO doubt, that if we do get married, what she has had in the past would be nothing to what we would have.
 
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I know it can be tough. I went through a similar thing with my gf. I hated her ex, and for a long time, it was tough because I would see images in my head. I hated it. It felt horrible, but then I remembered that God had forgiven her, and, through prayer, I was okay. I had that same temptation that I felt that I should be able to be closer to her physically since someone else had already, but then something dawned on me. That guy may have had her physcially, but I have her heart, and I have her love, etc... I don't think I've gotten over it 100% because I still hate the fact that someone else saw and touched my future wife, but I can't dwell on that, or our relationship will not go in the direction we want it to. If you're having a very difficult time, I suggest talking to her. I talked to my gf and that helped. I have to just go with what everyone else has said. Pray, pray, pray. And remember that God has forgiven her. She's not like that and now, she wants a Godly, pure relationship with you. For this reason, I'll agree that it's the devil doing this to you. The devil hates everything pure, and he sees that you two are trying to have a pure relationship, and he's going to try to disrupt that. But, God is on your side, and He will help you through this. Pray, talk with her (I wouldn't ask more questions about the details...I made that mistake and it made it worse for me), and I know you two will do good. This may be a struggle now, but I know you can get through it. I'll be praying for you, brother.
 
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People make mistakes.

If she truly regrets her past then she has to endure that regret. She has to live with feeling broken, damaged, like used goods or second-hand clothes.

The creep will never have what you may have: her heart.

Don't let this get in in the way of you finding a great girl if that is what she is.
 
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Mr.Cheese said:
People make mistakes.

If she truly regrets her past then she has to endure that regret. She has to live with feeling broken, damaged, like used goods or second-hand clothes.

The creep will never have what you may have: her heart.

Don't let this get in in the way of you finding a great girl if that is what she is.

Wow, that really connected with me. "The creep will never have what you may have: her heart." Thank you. I am going through something similar to this and, while I've mostly come to terms with it, your comment here assured me a little more. That is the one thing that bothers me most about the past. I don't want my girl being shared with anyone. But it makes me feel better to know that her heart will not be shared--hopefully. Thank you.

(However, if you are a girl and you're not married, don't have sex just because you think your future husband will forgive you and accept you. He definitely will if he loves you, but having sex now based on this is like jabbing your future husband in the heart. Don't do it. It's selfish.)
 
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I used to struggle with this too.
I made the mistake of asking for too much details (which he gave to me as he thought he should be honest with whatever I asked him.. it was inexperience on both our parts), and it really haunted me for a while. While I could forgive him (but really, there is nothing to forgive since it was before we were together), the thought of possible comparisions and mental images of them together really ate at me. If anything reminded me of her (if you ask for too much details, A LOT of things could), I would become moody and withdraw myself from him.

We have walked out of this now, thank God, but here are some advice that applied to me personally.

1) Don't ask for the details (even seemingly neutral ones that had nothing to do with imtimacy), no matter how much you think you'll want to know, or that it's important. It's not, and it would only make you more unhappy.

2) Replacing your negative thoughts with happy memories of you and your SO. If you feel a negative thought creeping up, think of something memorable/romantic you did with your SO. I've found that this really helped in setting my priorities right: What is more important, your present/future with your SO who loves you now, or her past that she doesn't even want to think about?

3) For me, reassurance that he loves me and only me helped too, but that depends on your love language. If she really loves you and knows how to express it in your love language, it gets to a point where you'll realize how silly you are for even thinking that she has room in her heart for anyone else. And isn't that more important than who she has physically been with?

You can walk out of this, if you guys are truly in love and want to make things work :hug:.
 
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txlonestar said:
I know it can be tough. I went through a similar thing with my gf. I hated her ex, and for a long time, it was tough because I would see images in my head. I hated it. It felt horrible, but then I remembered that God had forgiven her, and, through prayer, I was okay. I had that same temptation that I felt that I should be able to be closer to her physically since someone else had already, but then something dawned on me. That guy may have had her physcially, but I have her heart, and I have her love, etc... I don't think I've gotten over it 100% because I still hate the fact that someone else saw and touched my future wife, but I can't dwell on that, or our relationship will not go in the direction we want it to. If you're having a very difficult time, I suggest talking to her. I talked to my gf and that helped. I have to just go with what everyone else has said. Pray, pray, pray. And remember that God has forgiven her. She's not like that and now, she wants a Godly, pure relationship with you. For this reason, I'll agree that it's the devil doing this to you. The devil hates everything pure, and he sees that you two are trying to have a pure relationship, and he's going to try to disrupt that. But, God is on your side, and He will help you through this. Pray, talk with her (I wouldn't ask more questions about the details...I made that mistake and it made it worse for me), and I know you two will do good. This may be a struggle now, but I know you can get through it. I'll be praying for you, brother.
I would give you a private message, but i have to make at least 5 post before I do that. So I have two more left. I want to talk more about this.
 
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From someone who has been through it before...

Her explanation for what weakened her is valid. Men are more tempted to have sex, and when desperate, will offer "fake affection" for it. Women are more tempted by affection, and when desperate, will offer "fake sex" for it.


By fake, I mean they offered it, but it wasn't genuine or from the heart. One is used as currency to earn the other. And obviously, not all women or men will do as I said. But they are more likely to do what I said above than the other way around.

As a male, what would probably help you get through this is to know that she wants you sexually (obviously not to act on it, just to know that it's a struggle for her not to act on her desires to have you). I know that helped me when the time came. Nobody wants to know that they are getting less than an ex did, but everybody wants to get the best of what their partner has ever offered.

Oh, and ever heard of Hosea? He's a holy man who God has marry an ex-prostitute. Everytime you start to wonder about her past, think of him, and think of WHY his story is in the Bible.
 
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Don't EVER date a girl that plays the "i'm a victim" song. Or one that makes excuses for what they did.
They're the type that are a victim their whole lives, and use that as an excuse to be useless their entire life!

Sing with me...
"leaving, on a jet plane,,,,, don't know when i'll be back again..." :)
 
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We aren't responsible for the choices that other people make. She wasn't with you when she made the choice to sleep with someone else; she did not cheat on you. She was in love with him and that is what happens at times. I'm not trying to say that she did what was right, but that it was her choice, and that now that is in the past.

If you can't live with it, if you can't learn to still love her and not hold resentment and bitterness about this, then you and her will never have a good future together. Pray. You need to change your attitude and if not, there is no crime in that-it's just something that you are unable to accept. If that is the case then you need to move on.
 
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ImperialPhantom said:
From someone who has been through it before...

Her explanation for what weakened her is valid. Men are more tempted to have sex, and when desperate, will offer "fake affection" for it. Women are more tempted by affection, and when desperate, will offer "fake sex" for it.


By fake, I mean they offered it, but it wasn't genuine or from the heart. One is used as currency to earn the other. And obviously, not all women or men will do as I said. But they are more likely to do what I said above than the other way around.

As a male, what would probably help you get through this is to know that she wants you sexually (obviously not to act on it, just to know that it's a struggle for her not to act on her desires to have you). I know that helped me when the time came. Nobody wants to know that they are getting less than an ex did, but everybody wants to get the best of what their partner has ever offered.

Oh, and ever heard of Hosea? He's a holy man who God has marry an ex-prostitute. Everytime you start to wonder about her past, think of him, and think of WHY his story is in the Bible.
This is fantasic advice.
 
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When we&#8217;re married, is it possible that she can clear her mind so much that it will be a new experience for her when we can share each other as man and wife?

Yes, it is definitely possible.

It is also possible that your first time as newlyweds will be as if you both are clueless about that stuff. Hope that isn't going into too much detail :D
 
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I gues my main pieceof advice is: "She didn't do ANY of this to you.". You guys weren't talking and she had no responsibility to being 'true' to you.

What is in someones past cannot ever be changed, no matter how much you want to, and even try to. You HAVE to come to terms with it and accept it as her past. I've had to do it with my lovely fiance, and he's had to do it with me. Not just once either, but every single day at time.s
 
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