helping others by getting vaccine

[Mark Quayle]

exactly!

God gave man the ability to cure people
he even provided much of what is used in meds in nature

vaccines were made to help stop this pandemic

trusted God that my one and only child would be ok getting vaccine and despite my fears, I got vaccine, also

it's my duty to help get to herd immunity as a member of a community

Is that my quote?

 

[mama2one]

Is that my quote?

corrected

 

[bèlla]

Truth.. we know Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life. We know every person we pass by on the street at school at work at the store .. if they do not know Jesus Christ they are lost forever.. never having everlasting life. Yet we don't condemn judge we love. We give them the right to choose.. we don't push them.. get in their face.

I agree. These are the men and women I'm happy to support. And if it comes down to a decision between the two they'll always receive my assistance and I'm not alone in that.

Don't despair.

~bella

 

[Jesus is my Superhero]

I have trouble understanding that if a person is vaccinated, why the insistence that everyone also get vaccinated? Relax! You've positioned yourself for good health and joy. Be at peace!

 

[Hank77]

If only 1,800 people got flu last year out of 331 million, why get the flu vaccine?

Is that the normal infection rate in an average yr?

 

[LeafByNiggle]

If only 1,800 people got flu last year out of 331 million, why get the flu vaccine?

To emphasize what Hank77 said, this is not a normal number of flu infections. Normal is about ten times as many. There are several reasons why this number might have been reported during 2020. One is the extreme change in behavior people made to avoid covid. We wore masks. We stayed socially distant. And the biggest one - in person school was severely limited or cancelled. (Kids spread the flu like crazy.) Another reason is that due to covid people were avoiding going to the doctor for normal treatment for fear of catching covid from others. So some people may have gotten the flu and simply tried to treat themselves at home. Those that failed may have been reported as flu deaths. But those who succeeded would not show up on the infection statistics at all.

 

[mama2one]

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[mama2one]

I have trouble understanding that if a person is vaccinated, why the insistence that everyone also get vaccinated? Relax! You've positioned yourself for good health and joy. Be at peace!

1) there is no vaccine yet for children under 12
2) there are people who are allergic to vaccine components
3) some immunocompromised are unable to get vaccine

we need to get to herd immunity to protect ^

 

[After God's Heart]

We have to be careful that we aren't adding to what God actually requires of us as laid out in scripture. The decision to take or not take the vaccine is not a moral obligation- as a Christian, I submit to the righteousness and absolute moral authority of God above all else.
If adultery is sin, then I can't rationalize being an adulterer by claiming my spouse cheated first, or abuses me, or I fell in love with someone else, it's still sin and against God's moral law. If taking the vaccine means I'm adhering to a moral law (loving my neighbor) does failing to uphold it mean I'm going against God's law....effectively sinning? Does scripture qualify the commandments by age and immune status? absolutely not.
for Christians we should avoid rebuking each other as if taking or not taking the vaccine is on par with sin or righteousness. Getting the vaccination isn't rooted in an absolute principle, it's a personal conviction.

Is it loving our neighbors to hold them to a standard that Christ Himself does not require of us? This has been on my mind as I see the rapidly growing division among people over this vaccination.

1 Cor 13:1-13
1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant 5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; 6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. 7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8 Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.
13 So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Will we see the end of this pandemic? Perhaps. Is it really within our control? It's times like these that those of us who have faith can hopefully hold onto the promises of God, and give our fears and health and anxieties and grief up to Him in our prayers and to keep digging into the Word, and to love Him - and our neighbors - faithfully. He is the same eternal God yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

Romans 8:28
28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.

 

[Mark Quayle]

Is that the normal infection rate in an average yr?

No, that was 2020. 2019 they say there were 38 million cases.

 

[Mark Quayle]

To emphasize what Hank77 said, this is not a normal number of flu infections. Normal is about ten times as many. There are several reasons why this number might have been reported during 2020. One is the extreme change in behavior people made to avoid covid. We wore masks. We stayed socially distant. And the biggest one - in person school was severely limited or cancelled. (Kids spread the flu like crazy.) Another reason is that due to covid people were avoiding going to the doctor for normal treatment for fear of catching covid from others. So some people may have gotten the flu and simply tried to treat themselves at home. Those that failed may have been reported as flu deaths. But those who succeeded would not show up on the infection statistics at all.

Actually, more than 2000 times as many. 38 million vs 1800. Your reasons don't begin to account for that much difference in the two years. Somebody is manipulating the numbers.

 

[Bobber]

47 Bible Verses About Helping Others: 7 Scriptural Themes for Generosity


^ 1. CARING FOR THE WEAK

Matthew 10:8: “Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.”


there are immunocompromised individuals who can't get the vaccine & children are not able to get vaccine yet

we ALL can get vaccinated to care for the weak & save lives

Matt 10:8 did not say go and get vaccinated!

 

[Tanj]

Actually, more than 2000 times as many. 38 million vs 1800. Your reasons don't begin to account for that much difference in the two years. Somebody is manipulating the numbers.

Excellent. Who? and Why?

 

[ToddNotTodd]

Actually, more than 2000 times as many. 38 million vs 1800. Your reasons don't begin to account for that much difference in the two years. Somebody is manipulating the numbers.

Your incredulity isn’t evidence…

 

[mama2one]

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[KCfromNC]

If only 1,800 people got flu last year out of 331 million, why get the flu vaccine?

Because this isn't last year.

 

[Jesus is my Superhero]

My carnal body, my choice.

 

[cow451]

I suppose ones view on the topic influences how Christianity is applied to your proposal. Here is why I oppose what you are suggesting:

Association of American Physicians and Surgeons: COVID Shots Risk Millions of Lives

The AAPS is essentially a "Doctor's Tea Party".

AAPS Board of Directors

 

[cow451]

eating a second burger doesn't put person sitting next to them in ICU, on ventilator, or cause the neighbor's death



how many sick covid carriers have killed others?

the sick person riding the bus killed the bus driver
the sick workers at the nursing home where my mom is killed several residents
and on and on...

Those that choose to avoid vaccination have an accountability that is different than the patients that did NOT choose to get sick.

 

[cow451]

1) there is no vaccine yet for children under 12
2) there are people who are allergic to vaccine components
3) some immunocompromised are unable to get vaccine

we need to get to herd immunity to protect ^

These are not the "problem" as they are a very small percentage of the unvaccinated. The "problem" are the people with no known risk factors that choose to be unvaccinated.