Hell.....

[vinsight4u]

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[sculleywr]

2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
Jonah

"out of the belly of hell"
"heardest"

not hear Me - but is referring to how God already heard him
in the past - when he was in hell

Jonah, not Scripture. Jonah. It wasn't what the narrative said. It was what Jonah said. Not God. I like that you took it out of context:

From inside the fish Jonah prayed to the Lord his God. 2 He said:


“In my distress I called to the Lord,
and he answered me.
From deep in the realm of the dead I called for help,
and you listened to my cry.


Where does the Scripture say Jonah was? In the fish. I prefer to accept things IN CONTEXT, not taken out of context. The methods you just used to prove Jonah died were used to prove Jesus wasn't really God by Arius.

 

[vinsight4u]

From deep in the realm of the dead I called for help,

in the realm of the dead

 

[sculleywr]

Taking my post out of context because...Well not explained, but possibly because of hatred for what the Scripture says

Scripture says:

From inside the fish Jonah prayed to the Lord his God.

Do you not believe Scripture to be telling the truth?

 

[vinsight4u]

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[sculleywr]

Jonah prays two places.
First he prayed from hell-the realm of the dead - as in he had
drowned. God heard that prayer - it was over.

Later, - back in the fish where his body was - he now prays
again to God. During this prayer, he speaks as to how God
had earlier heard his prayer that was prayed from the belly
of hell.
When people pray they sometimes refer to how God answered
them in the past. That is what Jonah did.

Jonah is not referring in 2:2 as to just then crying, but by this
time - God had already heard his prayer. Jonah is not saying
to God about being in hell and please hear my voice. Jonah is
speaking of something that already happened.
Now, though he is recalling that time when praying inside of
the fish.
Jonah chapter 1 ends as to showing the time for chapter
2 to begin. Jonah's body has been in the whale, but before
that he was in the realm of the dead-with other dead people -
in hell. He prayed and God heard his voice from that area of
the location in hell.= the realm of the dead -as in souls

So let's edit the Scripture to match YOUR narrative:

From inside hell Jonah prayed, and then later he prayed this:

Jonah was speaking. He was saying what he felt. It does not follow, in ANY logical way, that his statement overrides the verse before. Either the verse before is correct and you are wrong, or Scripture is lying and you are correct.

Jonah said he was in hell, while actually being inside the fish. Occam's Razor. The explanation with the LEAST assumptions is the most likely to be true.

 

[sculleywr]

If Jonah prayed from hell, what did he say in hell? We have the prayer from inside the fish. We do not have any narration that says he was in hell

 

[hedrick]

The reference to Sheol is poetic language. Cf Ps 18:5, 30:3, 49:15, 86:13, 116:3,

 

[sculleywr]

The reference to Sheol is poetic language. Cf Ps 18:5, 30:3, 49:15, 86:13, 116:3,

That's the point. Jonah saying he was in hell is exaggeration.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[sculleywr]

Jonah is put back into his body and begins to pray telling
us how he had prayed in the past from hell and was heard.

Jonah 1:27
"...three days and three nights."
2:1
"Then Jonah prayed..."
2:3
"And said, I cried...out of the belly of hell...heardest..."
/mine affliction

What affliction?
"For Thou hadst cast me into the deep..."
2:6
"...down to the bottoms...from corruption..."
2:7
"When...my prayer came..."
Jonah is referring to how he had prayed before he was inside
of the fish.

I love how you cut out the "out of the belly of the fish" part. So I guess that isn't really in Scripture. It's a lie. Good to know. Now I'll just throw the entire book out of my Bible. Thank you for proving the book of Jonah isn't really Scripture because it lies when it says he prayed only out of the belly of the fish.

I am currently talking to you from the International Space Station. Does my saying that make it a true statement?