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Hell or the lake of fire?

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What is the meaning of death in Revelation 20 14?
That is an interesting verse. From the context "death" and "hell" are both referred to as personalities. (source: Derek Prince - fluent in ancient Hebrew and Greek)
 
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Just curious. If separation from God is death, then all who are born with out God are already dead. Do you consider this to be the first death, or do you think the first death is when our spirits are separated from our bodies?
Yes we are born spiritually dead. That is why we need to be "born again."
Jesus said to the man who wanted to attend the funeral before following him, Let the dead bury their dead.
If you study 1st century Jewish culture, it would seem the guy's "dead" father was not dead yet. He was waiting for him to die, and THEN he would come follow the Lord.
 
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dictionaries are used in translating the bible
Translations are based upon extant documents in Greek (for the NT) and their understanding of common usage of Greek. But even then, there is theological bias that determines the choice of words used for the English. Dr. A. Nyland took the approach of using more Greek documents of that era to translate her version of the New Testament entitled, "The Source New Testament." But I am not saying her translation is superior. For the understanding of the Bible comes by the Spirit, not the letter.
 
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What do you mean by referred to as personalities?
Derek Prince said from reading the entire text in the Greek (he taught the Greek philosophers IN ANCIENT GREEK at the graduate level at Cambridge before becoming a believer) that "death" and "hell" in that verse were proper names like Dave and Sam.

He took it as (1) the angel of death; and (2) that the temporary holding place for the evil dead (hell) was actually also an angel. Both of them were thrown in with all they contained.

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That is not the only place in scripture to refer to both of those as persons:

Hosea 13:14 Shall I ransom them from the power of Sheol? Shall I redeem them from death? O Death, where are your thorns? O Sheol, where is your sting? Compassion will be hidden from My sight.

1 Corinthians 15:55 O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?”
 
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Derek Prince said from reading the entire text in the Greek (he taught the Greek philosophers IN ANCIENT GREEK at the graduate level at Cambridge before becoming a believer) that "death" and "hell" in that verse were proper names like Dave and Sam.

He took it as (1) the angel of death; and (2) that the temporary holding place for the evil dead (hell) was actually also an angel. Both of them were thrown in with all they contained.

https://gotquestions.org/angel-of-death.html

https://compellingtruth.org/angel-of-death.html

Isn't the concept of an angel of death unbibical?
 
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OTOH, I suspect some translations are more driven by theology than the proper rules of translation.
Indeed. That is why most proper translations utilize a variety of translators from differing doctrinal backgrounds to minimize the doctrinal coloring.
 
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