Heaven

[dreadnought]

Okay, folks, I believe you will find this to be true: We are in heaven but because we sin, we suffer. That is why Jesus “suggested” we stop sinning:

From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matt 4:17 RSV

 

[Hall]

No, we are not in heaven . What did Jesus mean when He said, “The kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:21, KJV)?

 

[dreadnought]

No, we are not in heaven . What did Jesus mean when He said, “The kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:21, KJV)?

Well, heaven is what our life turns into when we repent of our sin. Heaven is the plan the Lord has for each of us if we'd only do things his way. You might not think you are in heaven but I think you will learn differently.

 

[Hall]

Well, heaven is what our life turns into when we repent of our sin. Heaven is the plan the Lord has for each of us if we'd only do things his way. You might not think you are in heaven but I think you will learn
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Can you prove it with Biblical scriptures?

 

[Hall]

Our life does turn for the best when we are saved, but there will always be heartaches until we are with God in heaven...

 

[dreadnought]

Can you prove it with Biblical scriptures?

If Matthew 4:17 isn't proof, it's a clue. I think that's all the Lord wanted us to have. He told us to repent, and there's no reason we shouldn't. Some will repent and find out what the reward is. Others won't.

 

[dreadnought]

Our life does turn for the best when we are saved, but there will always be heartaches until we are with God in heaven...

Repentance makes life a whole lot easier.

 

[Hall]

Repentance makes life a whole lot easier.

Of course it does, but it doesn't turn it into heaven. My life is great, I feel so blessed with so many things, but long suffering described in the Bible has to do with having to live in a fallen world, with persecutions suffering for Christ. All this ends when you are in heaven.

 

[dreadnought]

Of course it does, but it doesn't turn it into heaven. My life is great, I feel so blessed with so many things, but long suffering described in the Bible has to do with having to live in a fallen world, with persecutions suffering for Christ. All this ends when you are in heaven.

When you have peace of mind, you have heaven. That comes with repentance.

 

[Hall]

If Matthew 4:17 isn't proof, it's a clue. I think that's all the Lord wanted us to have. He told us to repent, and there's no reason we shouldn't. Some will repent and find out what the reward is. Others won't.

So you believe that you can turn your life into heaven on earth within your mortal life time here? I'm sorry but that isn't Biblical.

 

[Bluerose31]

Okay, folks, I believe you will find this to be true: We are in heaven but because we sin, we suffer. That is why Jesus “suggested” we stop sinning:

From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matt 4:17 RSV

Great verse

 

[dreadnought]

So you believe that you can turn your life into heaven on earth within your mortal life time here? I'm sorry but that isn't Biblical.

Oh?

And he said to them, "Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power." Mark 9:1 RSV

 

[Hall]

Revelation 21:1-27
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” ...

 

[friend of]

I forget the verse exactly but it mentioned the Kingdom of God was within us when we are saved but the Kingdom of Heaven isn't yet here but will come when this world is destroyed in Revelations.

 

[Hall]

Oh?

And he said to them, "Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power." Mark 9:1 RSV

You aren't understanding this verse correctly, please study it...

 

[dreadnought]

Revelation 21:1-27
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” ...

One of my favorite Bible passages. In symbolic language, it describes heaven perfectly. As soon as we repent ...

 

[dreadnought]

I forget the verse exactly but it mentioned the Kingdom of God was within us when we are saved but the Kingdom of Heaven isn't yet here but will come when this world is destroyed in Revelations.

And he said to them, "Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power." Mark 9:1 RSV

 

[dreadnought]

You aren't understanding this verse correctly, please study it...

I know this: The Lord led me to repent of sin I was committing, and the transformation that took place in my life was indescribable. I share this with you.

 

[Hall]

I know this: The Lord led me to repent of sin I was committing, and the transformation that took place in my life was indescribable. I share this with you.

So did I, and I don't see angels flying all around me and death still exist.

 

[dreadnought]

So did I, and I don't see angels flying all around me and death still exist.

Death exists?